NFL Regular Season Week One Thread - Page 13

cuervo72 · 09-13-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Hey there, come here often?

You're right, I should know by now that DT would overreact to such things.

DaddyTorgo · 09-13-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

You're right, I should know by now that DT would overreact to such things.

Everyone would. Look at Lathum's reaction to the Giants injury troubles.

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-13-2011, 10:34 AM

Too bad the Dolphins didn't make that Orton trade.

cuervo72 · 09-13-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Everyone would. Look at Lathum's reaction to the Giants injury troubles.

Well....Lathum.

Lathum · 09-13-2011, 10:51 AM

how the hell did I get involved in this?

Lathum · 09-13-2011, 10:57 AM

dola- and given the Giants have 6-7 starters out, many for the season, I don't think I over reacted at all.

Lathum · 09-13-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Well....Lathum.

not really sure what this is supposed to mean

spleen1015 · 09-13-2011, 11:01 AM

I don't really want to split hairs over who gets emotional, but DT you can't say everyone.

Peyton Manning is likely out for the season and you don't see me and ColtsCrazy going nuts over it.

sterlingice · 09-13-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

ESPN's new QB ranking has Brady as the third best QB of the week. Any credibility that new system may have had with me is now gone.

2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

Actually 4th, if I'm reading this right. Or is this not the ESPN one?

How in the world does Ryan Fitzpatrick's get the nod as best for the week? In any system? Lots of TDs but so did Brady. He also had low yards, only the 8th best completion percentage, and it's not like his average was high or anything.

SI

Scoobz0202 · 09-13-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

Actually 4th, if I'm reading this right. Or is this not the ESPN one?

How in the world does Ryan Fitzpatrick's get the nod as best for the week? In any system? Lots of TDs but so did Brady. He also had low yards, only the 8th best completion percentage, and it's not like his average was high or anything.

SI

NFL - Week 1 Total QBR Leaders - ESPN

spleen1015 · 09-13-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

Actually 4th, if I'm reading this right. Or is this not the ESPN one?

How in the world does Ryan Fitzpatrick's get the nod as best for the week? In any system? Lots of TDs but so did Brady. He also had low yards, only the 8th best completion percentage, and it's not like his average was high or anything.

SI

Brady threw an INT that resulted in a TD. That gets factored into ESPN's number.

Rizon · 09-13-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

Actually 4th, if I'm reading this right. Or is this not the ESPN one?

How in the world does Ryan Fitzpatrick's get the nod as best for the week? In any system? Lots of TDs but so did Brady. He also had low yards, only the 8th best completion percentage, and it's not like his average was high or anything.

SI

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Brady threw an INT that resulted in a TD. That gets factored into ESPN's number.

Yeah, it's not entirely based on hard stats.

MikeVic · 09-13-2011, 11:39 AM

Ok, am I crazy or didn't Matt Bryant on the Bucs kick a 63 or 64 yarder a couple years ago?

larrymcg421 · 09-13-2011, 11:40 AM

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Ok, am I crazy or didn't Matt Bryant on the Bucs kick a 63 or 64 yarder a couple years ago?

It was a 62 yard game winner.

gstelmack · 09-13-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Yeah, it's not entirely based on hard stats.

Heh. They penalize Brady for an offensive player blocking a defender into his intended target as the ball arrives, causing the ball to pop into the air, where a D-Lineman happens to be in position to catch it and rumble to the 10.

I get penalizing for the TD, but if you're going to be subjective you're really going to penalize Brady for a TD on a perfectly thrown ball?

johnnyshaka · 09-13-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

How in the world does Ryan Fitzpatrick's get the nod as best for the week? In any system? Lots of TDs but so did Brady. He also had low yards, only the 8th best completion percentage, and it's not like his average was high or anything.

SI

Without knowing the background on their stat, my guess is that efficiency is king and he amassed the most "good" outcomes (ie. TD passes) in the least number of attempts and did so with minimal "bad" outcomes (1 sack, no lost fumbles, and no picks).

Rizon · 09-13-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Heh. They penalize Brady for an offensive player blocking a defender into his intended target as the ball arrives, causing the ball to pop into the air, where a D-Lineman happens to be in position to catch it and rumble to the 10.

I get penalizing for the TD, but if you're going to be subjective you're really going to penalize Brady for a TD on a perfectly thrown ball?

I take 0% stock in the formula because it's from ESPN.

DaddyTorgo · 09-13-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Heh. They penalize Brady for an offensive player blocking a defender into his intended target as the ball arrives, causing the ball to pop into the air, where a D-Lineman happens to be in position to catch it and rumble to the 10.

I get penalizing for the TD, but if you're going to be subjective you're really going to penalize Brady for a TD on a perfectly thrown ball?

This.

What a laugher.

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-13-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I take 0% stock in the formula because it's from ESPN.

But they have numerous articles on ESPN.com where it tells you how much better a barometer it is than the method that has been in place for years!

Rizon · 09-13-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

But they have numerous articles on ESPN.com where it tells you how much better a barometer it is than the method that has been in place for years!

Sweet, do I have to endure thousands of moving pictures and videos on my screen just to see it??

Logan · 09-13-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Heh. They penalize Brady for an offensive player blocking a defender into his intended target as the ball arrives, causing the ball to pop into the air, where a D-Lineman happens to be in position to catch it and rumble to the 10.

I get penalizing for the TD, but if you're going to be subjective you're really going to penalize Brady for a TD on a perfectly thrown ball?

I thought the point of ESPN's "look at every play" system was to be able to assign or remove blame on every QB play.

BillJasper · 09-13-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I thought the point of ESPN's "look at every play" system was to be able to assign or remove blame on every QB play.

That's what I thought. I didn't think the interception was Brady's fault at all.

gstelmack · 09-14-2011, 07:18 AM

Seeing the current Peter King photo on CNNSI (Luke McCown, Ryan Fitzpatrick show the right stuff under center - Peter King - SI.com) where the guy has a Cardinals' jersey in the Patriots' (or I guess maybe Texans') colors reminds me that someone should tell Tony Sparano that he coaches Miami, not the Patriots. I swear his shirt / sweater was the same blue color Belichick had on...

RomaGoth · 09-14-2011, 10:55 PM

I didn't read any of this thread, just wanted to mention that I went to the Cardinals/Panthers game this past Sunday and Cam Newton looked incredible. Granted the Cards secondary looked liked a bunch of confused JV players, but Newton's decision making was top-notch and he made all the throws. I am still not a fan, but it will be interesting to see how he progresses this season.

Kevin Kolb, on the other hand, often looked bewildered and several times just threw the ball up for grabs when he was under pressure. His receivers didn't help him out much either aside from Heap, but that offensive line is awful. Fortunately for Kolb, as the weather cools they will open the roof and he can see more of that blue Arizona sky every time he is knocked on his ass.

Oh, and that stadium is immense, reminds me of the old Pontiac Silverdome. Just ridiculously large.

Thomkal · 09-15-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Carolina leads 14-7 at the half. It could have just as easily been 21-7 Arizona, they are for the most part cutting through the Panther defense like butter, but giving it all away once they get in the red zone. Carolina got bailed out a bit on a roughing the passer penalty on what would have been Cam Newton's first INT, instead they end up with Newton to Steve Smith for his second TD.

well well the NFL has ruled that the roughing the passer penalty on Arizona's Marshall should not have been called, which meant it should have been an INT for the Cards.

NFL admits Marshall’s hit on Newton was legal | ProFootballTalk

09-14-2011, 07:18 AM	#623
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Seeing the current Peter King photo on CNNSI (Luke McCown, Ryan Fitzpatrick show the right stuff under center - Peter King - SI.com) where the guy has a Cardinals' jersey in the Patriots' (or I guess maybe Texans') colors reminds me that someone should tell Tony Sparano that he coaches Miami, not the Patriots. I swear his shirt / sweater was the same blue color Belichick had on... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

09-13-2011, 10:34 AM	#603
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Too bad the Dolphins didn't make that Orton trade.

09-13-2011, 10:51 AM	#605
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	how the hell did I get involved in this?

09-13-2011, 10:57 AM	#606
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- and given the Giants have 6-7 starters out, many for the season, I don't think I over reacted at all.

09-13-2011, 11:01 AM	#608
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I don't really want to split hairs over who gets emotional, but DT you can't say everyone. Peyton Manning is likely out for the season and you don't see me and ColtsCrazy going nuts over it.

09-13-2011, 11:39 AM	#613
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Ok, am I crazy or didn't Matt Bryant on the Bucs kick a 63 or 64 yarder a couple years ago?

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