Official College Football Week 13 Thread

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by digamma

What's the good word?

Fire Johnson.

[Young Drachma]

Dear Rutgers, stop losing. k thx.

Apparently Louisville also losing. Dunno if the Scarlet Knights have 3 TDs hiding anywhere in someone's back pocket tho.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Dear Rutgers, stop losing. k thx.

Apparently Louisville also losing. Dunno if the Scarlet Knights have 3 TDs hiding anywhere in someone's back pocket tho.

That's pretty much been the M.O. of Pitt, Syracuse, and UConn over the past 7 or 8 years, suck it up in non-conference and play marginally in the Big East before laying the wood once or twice a year to in conference teams that have been having very good/great seasons.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

That's pretty much been the M.O. of Pitt, Syracuse, and UConn over the past 7 or 8 years, suck it up in non-conference and play marginally in the Big East before laying the wood once or twice a year to in conference teams that have been having very good/great seasons.

Well I hope Flood said something to them that actually works. This whole "get on the doorstep of the conference title" and choke thing is really getting old and I don't trust them even playing at home next week against Louisville.

[Young Drachma]

Another missed opportunity.

[bob]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Fire Johnson.

If Paul Johnson is not fired, then it's clear the new AD and administration believe what Dave Braine said on his way out the door.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bob

If Paul Johnson is not fired, then it's clear the new AD and administration believe what Dave Braine said on his way out the door.

Eh, they ain't got the money to fire him & I know that.

They'll just point to the "progress" of his division "title" and continue to put an embarrassing lack of talent on the field each & every Saturday. I doubt they could win a Southern Conference title at this point.

[Young Drachma]

I suppose the advantage of this choke job, should it continue to hold up is that perhaps it'll light a fire under their asses next week, at home, to wrap up the Conference title once and for all. I'd just prefer they figure it out and make it easier on themselves; especially if UConn holds up their end of the bargain.

[Young Drachma]

Maybe Rutgers should've announced their Big Ten exit after wrapping up the conference title...

[bob]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Eh, they ain't got the money to fire him & I know that.

They'll just point to the "progress" of his division "title" and continue to put an embarrassing lack of talent on the field each & every Saturday. I doubt they could win a Southern Conference title at this point.

Fair enough, but given that, the rest of Atlanta and myself will just continue to not buy tickets and they can just continue the slide into irrelevance.

That division title is a joke and all of college football knows it.

[Matthean]

I'm getting visions of Bo style of play calling out of Michigan. Third and short = run up the middle no matter how many times it fails.

[Young Drachma]

Thank you Gary Nova. Grr...

[cadmus2166]

Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm getting visions of Bo style of play calling out of Michigan. Third and short = run up the middle no matter how many times it fails.

Yeah, very frustrating. I feel like Michigan is beating themselves in the second half more than Ohio St. is.

[Solecismic]

I've often thought the prevent defense only prevents you from winning, as the cliche goes.

Michigan coughed up an easy field goal (not the kick itself, 52 yards) right before the half, and the momentum completely changed. It's too bad - they could have won this game, but they've done absolutely nothing since the big Robinson run that should have given them a big mental boost going into the half.

So it looks like we'll have a split national championship again.

[cadmus2166]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

I've often thought the prevent defense only prevents you from winning, as the cliche goes.

Michigan coughed up an easy field goal (not the kick itself, 52 yards) right before the half, and the momentum completely changed. It's too bad - they could have won this game, but they've done absolutely nothing since the big Robinson run that should have given them a big mental boost going into the half.

So it looks like we'll have a split national championship again.

Ohio St. isn't getting the AP championship unless Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and posibly even Oregon lose again. There are too many voters who will not want a team on probation to get a championship.

[bob]

Well, maybe Tech was just holding back for next weeks more important game against FSU.

[Solecismic]

Originally Posted by cadmus2166

Ohio St. isn't getting the AP championship unless Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and posibly even Oregon lose again. There are too many voters who will not want a team on probation to get a championship.

That's probably true, and probably fair (their schedule is embarrassingly bad for a top team). We've never had a situation like this before, so the voters can deviate from their obsession with undefeated.

It's a shame Ohio State is on probation for something someone else did in the past. They should have the opportunity to move on.

It's also a shame Michigan is a cluster-whatever on offense with this new Denard as double-slash-benchwarmer mess. Ohio State is clearly the better team today.

It would have been nice to have a competitive game today. Michigan really isn't that good this year - the defense dominated mediocre teams but the lack of experience on the defensive line and the lack of a throwing quarterback doomed them against good teams. They beat everyone they should beat, but were 0-4 in games that mattered. Well, 1-4, as beating Michigan State was emotionally important even though the Spartans had serious quarterback issues themselves.

I don't see the point of inviting teams like Michigan to bowl games. Who needs to see them again? Of course, the rules say 5-7 teams might go this year, as it's possible they'll run out of 6-6 teams like Central Michigan to fill in.

I wish they had thrown out the bowl system entirely instead of this bowl-slash-halfassed playoff compromise. Get rid of the most senseless of the bowls and pick the best sites for a 24-team playoff. That would bring in more money than they could imagine.

[Thomkal]

Coastal Carolina ahead 17-0 in a first round playoff game at Bethune-Cookman. Winner gets to play Old Dominion next

[Easy Mac]

Auburn was undefeated and on probation in 93.

[bob]

Ohio State has no one but themselves to blame for this. All probations suck for the innocent, but this wasn't for actions from 10 years ago. Should have been dealt with last year when the players at fault were still on roster.

[Chubby]

HAHAHAHA if Louisville can win next week SU takes a share of the BE title!

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Coastal Carolina ahead 17-0 in a first round playoff game at Bethune-Cookman. Winner gets to play Old Dominion next

Coastal still up by the same score near the end of 3rd quarter. Fellow Big South member Stony Brook also up-14-0 at halftime vs Villanova.

[Toddzilla]

The UVA coach completely quit on his team today. Tie game, 40 seconds left, VT has the ball, 4th down on the 10, a chip shot to win. Instead of calling timeout immediately to save some time after a potential field goal and kickoff, he lets the clock run down to 4 seconds, lets VT stop the clock, then uses his 2 time outs to "ice" the kicker - which didn't work as VT kicks the game winner at :00. Completey, unabashedly quit on his team and left them there to lose.

[cuervo72]

Oh Big East, why you ackin so cray cray?

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Oh Big East, why you ackin so cray cray?

Yeah, if Louisville beats Rutgers, SU would only have been 10 points from an auto BCS.

[cuervo72]

Also, it's great that I can't see Oregon/Oregon St. while all these other games are at halftime. Thanks Pac-12 network!

[molson]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Yeah, if Louisville beats Rutgers, SU would only have been 10 points from an auto BCS.

But hey, they'll still end up co-big east champions if Louisville wins (which from a previous post, may involve a handsome trophy of some sort). And while they won't finish high enough in the BCS standings to pass either of those teams and get to the BCS bowl....it could be humorously close.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Also, it's great that I can't see Oregon/Oregon St. while all these other games are at halftime. Thanks Pac-12 network!

Me either. What a joke. This is one of the better games of the day. And not nationally televised. Thats a shame.

[molson]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Me either. What a joke. This is one of the better games of the day. And not nationally televised. Thats a shame.

There will be more of that if the Big 10 network insists that DirecTV spend a billion more dollars for the privilege of carrying Rutgers and Maryland.

[Swaggs]

So, is the Louisville-Rutgers game the de facto championship game for the Big East or can Syracuse or Cincy somehow sneak in?

[JonInMiddleGA]

If Alabama holds on for the shutout, it'll be the first time that Auburn has been shutout by both Bama & Georgia in the same season since 1906.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Also, it's great that I can't see Oregon/Oregon St. while all these other games are at halftime. Thanks Pac-12 network!

and a hearty FUCK YOU PAC 12 network

signed a Washington alum who has Direct TV and lives 3 miles from campus yet can't watch Husky games at home.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

So, is the Louisville-Rutgers game the de facto championship game for the Big East or can Syracuse or Cincy somehow sneak in?

The former, most likely. Evan Hilbert broke it down like this on CBS Sportsline:

"Scenario No. 1: Louisville loses to UConn, beats Rutgers; Rutgers loses out; Cincinnati wins out; Syracuse beats Temple.

If the above occurs just as listed, there are four teams at 5-2. Now, the first tiebreaker is head-to-head. Basically the four teams create a mini-conference and the team that fared best against the other three goes. In this scenario, Cincinnati and Syracuse would be 1-2, while Louisville and Rutgers would be 2-1. Since, in this scenario, Louisville beats Rutgers, the Cards would go to the BCS.

Also, if Syracuse loses to Temple and the above outcomes remain, Louisville would go since the mini-conference would be Louisville, Rutgers, and Cincinnati, and Louisville would be 2-0 against the others. So, essentially, no matter what, Cincinnati will not be in a BCS bowl.

Scenario No. 2: Louisville loses to UConn, beats Rutgers; Rutgers loses out; Cincinnati loses one of its last two; Syracuse beats Temple.

Now, again, we create a mini-conference between the three teams at 5-2. That would be Louisville, Syracuse, and Rutgers. But, uh-oh, head-to-head records here are all 1-1. Louisville beat Rutgers, lost to Syracuse; Syracuse beat Louisville, lost to Rutgers; Rutgers beat Syracuse, lost to Louisville. In this case, the determining factor becomes which team has the highest BCS ranking. As of Nov. 17, CBSSports.com's Jerry Palm has Rutgers (18) ahead of Louisville (20) ahead of Syracuse (43). So, in this case, the most likely outcome would be Louisville leaping over Rutgers after having won and edging out Syracuse for the BCS berth based on ranking. Unless, of course, something wacky happens, like Connecticut beating Louisville 40-0 and the Cards turning around and beating Rutgers 7-6, then, maybe, Syracuse somehow ends up ranked higher."

[JonInMiddleGA]

Florida is apparently having a flashback to the Georgia game.

[mauchow]

Badgers run all over psu the first two drives and then the lack of any threat of throwing shows up and now psu stuffing the run with nearly 8 in box. Wisconsin really needs a second wr to be a threat deep... sigh...

[Butter]

Shoelace, you will be missed in the UM-OSU rivalry.

[Danny]

If Florida loses, I will be rooting against ND to hopefully have an Alabama / Georgia and Oregon final game.

[Danny]

It will pain me to root for USC though.

[Danny]

If Florida wins then I would just see ND win and USC lose.

[mauchow]

Yuck. Badgers d gassed thanks to three three and outs this half..

[mauchow]

Not sure Matt Canada should have oc position next year.

Gee 4th three and out after getting field position at 50.. drops this time.

[Solecismic]

Originally Posted by bob

Well, maybe Tech was just holding back for next weeks more important game against FSU.

It's interesting how they resolve these tiebreakers. According to the stories, Miami exists, then is removed from the tiebreaker process before tiebreakers are applied. So Georgia Tech goes in over North Carolina based on head-to-head.

I thought North Carolina would take it with a win today (looks positive). Miami, Georgia Tech and UNC finish 5-3, all are 1-1 round-robin. According to the tiebreaker rules (unless I'm missing something obvious, which is entirely possible), they next compare records against Virginia Tech. Since Georgia Tech was the only one of the three to lose to Virginia Tech, it would revert to Miami/UNC. UNC won that game head-to-head.

So the question is whether Miami exists in the standings at all. If so, UNC should be the winner. If not, why count Miami games at all? Then you get Georgia Tech at 5-2.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Coastal still up by the same score near the end of 3rd quarter. Fellow Big South member Stony Brook also up-14-0 at halftime vs Villanova.

Both Coastal and Stony Brook win by 10-Go Big South!

[bob]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

It's interesting how they resolve these tiebreakers. According to the stories, Miami exists, then is removed from the tiebreaker process before tiebreakers are applied. So Georgia Tech goes in over North Carolina based on head-to-head.

I thought North Carolina would take it with a win today (looks positive). Miami, Georgia Tech and UNC finish 5-3, all are 1-1 round-robin. According to the tiebreaker rules (unless I'm missing something obvious, which is entirely possible), they next compare records against Virginia Tech. Since Georgia Tech was the only one of the three to lose to Virginia Tech, it would revert to Miami/UNC. UNC won that game head-to-head.

So the question is whether Miami exists in the standings at all. If so, UNC should be the winner. If not, why count Miami games at all? Then you get Georgia Tech at 5-2.

I don't know the tie breaker specifics, but I know that mid-week when Miami self imposed Tech was in regardless of today's results. The Tech athletic department was selling tickets a few days ago.

[mauchow]

Jesus. Overtime again. Bielema loses another close one. He can't win the close ones it seems. This certainly confirms that Phillips should not be our qb next year if he's granted sixth year.

[dzilla77]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

It's interesting how they resolve these tiebreakers. According to the stories, Miami exists, then is removed from the tiebreaker process before tiebreakers are applied. So Georgia Tech goes in over North Carolina based on head-to-head.

I thought North Carolina would take it with a win today (looks positive). Miami, Georgia Tech and UNC finish 5-3, all are 1-1 round-robin. According to the tiebreaker rules (unless I'm missing something obvious, which is entirely possible), they next compare records against Virginia Tech. Since Georgia Tech was the only one of the three to lose to Virginia Tech, it would revert to Miami/UNC. UNC won that game head-to-head.

So the question is whether Miami exists in the standings at all. If so, UNC should be the winner. If not, why count Miami games at all? Then you get Georgia Tech at 5-2.

Remember UNC is also ineligible for post season play due to the academic scandal they had.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Jesus. Overtime again. Bielema loses another close one. He can't win the close ones it seems. This certainly confirms that Phillips should not be our qb next year if he's granted sixth year.

As a Badger fan, I'd say it'd be a shame if we made the Rose Bowl with this shitty of a team. Beating up on crap teams like Indiana just doesn't hide the fact that they've beaten nobody good.

[pbot]

Very pleased to see the Penn State senior class go out with home win.

Funny that for all the early season issues, Penn State won when the other team missed a kick. I think Ficken ended the year making something like 10 straight field goals including today's game winner to close out the season. Nice rebound.

Hopefully most of the talented underclassmen stick around.

[fpres]

Wow. Tough break for Manziel. It's probably for the best if he sits the remainder of the game just to protect that knee.

[Scoobz0202]

I know it's a down Big Ten, but I'm damn happy to see Urban's first year at OSU be a 12-0 season after going 6-7 last year. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.