NFL Week 7 Thread - Page 3

JPhillips · 10-23-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Yeah, George was one of the worst "great" backs I have ever seen. That game Edgerrin James had though.. Wow.

Why would you keep giving the ball to a guy that can barely break 1.5 ypc? Nothing but QB sneaks could probably break that average.

Thanks for the info larry.

Julio Riddols · 10-23-2011, 04:40 PM

Yeah, and that was in a 1 point loss.

larrymcg421 · 10-23-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Why would you keep giving the ball to a guy that can barely break 1.5 ypc? Nothing but QB sneaks could probably break that average.

That was the infamous Denny Green blowup game. The Cards took a 23-3 lead and went into a prevent offense. They were just running out the clock and praying they could hold on. Edgerrin's game is even worse when you consider his critical 4th quarter fumble.

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Thanks for the info larry.

No problem. The PFR play index is a fun tool to play with to find oddities like that.

Julio Riddols · 10-23-2011, 04:42 PM

I was wondering how you looked that up.. I was trying to figure out a way to get that stat too.

Scoobz0202 · 10-23-2011, 04:55 PM

Boller making the Raiders giving up a lot for a passable QB not look so bad??

jbergey22 · 10-23-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Another poster above talked about the horrible throw on the first TD pass. I think in context the throw is a little bit better. First off, he evaded an unblocked blitzer from his blind side. Then he ran against his body to make that throw.

His team won the game. Whether it was pretty or not I guess it doesnt matter in this case but with that pass.....

After he eluded the blitzer any marginal high school qb could have made that throw easily. Tebow threw it way too hard and completely off target. That catch Williams made on that was amazing. I have no idea how he was able come up with it at the speed Tebow threw that ball. Its not like he had a tight window to fit that in.

mckerney · 10-23-2011, 04:58 PM

Classic Husain Abdullah.

tucker rocky · 10-23-2011, 04:59 PM

Wow Vikings, letting Jennings get so wide open.

RedKingGold · 10-23-2011, 05:00 PM

Tamba Hali doing his best Kimo impression on Carson Palmer's knee during his first pass as a Raider.

mauchow · 10-23-2011, 05:06 PM

It was just a matter of time for the Packers to pull away and pull away quickly.

Julio Riddols · 10-23-2011, 05:12 PM

Aaron Rodgers should just change his name to QB Robot X or something like that.

kingfc22 · 10-23-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Aaron Rodgers should just change his name to QB Robot X or something like that.

Or MVP

Scoobz0202 · 10-23-2011, 05:22 PM

Will we ever see a non-QB or RB win the MVP again?

mckerney · 10-23-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Perhaps Ponder is the real deal...

7/16 54 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT after his first pass, perhaps not.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-23-2011, 05:24 PM

Amazing to see the turnaround from the Chiefs. They're looking like the division champs of last year now. Playing with a ton of confidence. Great part for the Chiefs is that their divisional remaining schedule is very favorable:

Home: Raiders, Chargers, Broncos
Road: Broncos

We'll see if they can keep it up.

Fonzie · 10-23-2011, 05:29 PM

And Woodson takes a bow.

My oh my.

Julio Riddols · 10-23-2011, 05:30 PM

Woo!! We got a 1st and 2nd for that guy!

Fonzie · 10-23-2011, 05:31 PM

Aikman, immediately after Ponder's second pick: "I think Christian Ponder has had a nice outing."

mckerney · 10-23-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

7/16 54 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT after his first pass, perhaps not.

Make that 7/18 54 yd, 1 TD, 2 INT

Fonzie · 10-23-2011, 05:33 PM

Mason Crosby is sure earning that new contract. Wowza.

Danny · 10-23-2011, 05:35 PM

That was a heck of a run by Peterson there. Shame his team is so bad

Julio Riddols · 10-23-2011, 05:36 PM

Its crazy.. I am sure the only throws Palmer can make anymore are dumpoffs, sideline comebacks, and short out routes.

Karlifornia · 10-23-2011, 05:39 PM

Palmer looks terrrrrrible. He hasn't played in a while, so it could just be rust, but not a good start.

Bearcat729 · 10-23-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Will we ever see a non-QB or RB win the MVP again?

I'd say Calvin Johnson in Detroit would be 2nd on my MVP ballot behind Rodgers right now.

RedKingGold · 10-23-2011, 05:42 PM

Once upon a time, I was a big fan of Kevin Kolb, but he looks really bad out there.

Matthean · 10-23-2011, 05:52 PM

Combined 0 TDs and 7 INTs in the Raiders/Chiefs match up. Has to rank rather high in terms of most INTs without a TD.

cuervo72 · 10-23-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

His team won the game. Whether it was pretty or not I guess it doesnt matter in this case but with that pass.....

After he eluded the blitzer any marginal high school qb could have made that throw easily.

I was gonna say, I had intramural games in college where I hit guys for bombs in-stride (one in a fantastic back-and-forth 41-38 style shootout). And I was no NFL quarterback, that's for sure.

Scoobz0202 · 10-23-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat729

I'd say Calvin Johnson in Detroit would be 2nd on my MVP ballot behind Rodgers right now.

Wes Welker would have to be in the convo, I'd think.

mauchow · 10-23-2011, 05:58 PM

Decent drive for Ponder. He's showing lots of good things to go along with the bad. I will be interested to see how he develops for the remainder of the season. On the second pick to Woodson, he's got to know that it's Woodson there and that he undercuts EVERYTHING, so he needs to float the ball over his receivers shoulders. That's stuff you learn as you go..

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-23-2011, 06:06 PM

Good lord. Raiders are just committing stupid penalties for the sake of keeping their league lead in that department.

Rizon · 10-23-2011, 06:07 PM

Ahhh, THERE are the Raiders we all know and love.

JPhillips · 10-23-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Palmer looks terrrrrrible. He hasn't played in a while, so it could just be rust, but not a good start.

I'm betting Hue Jackson doesn't sleep much over the next two weeks.

Julio Riddols · 10-23-2011, 06:10 PM

I think theyre just trying to keep Palmer off the field now.

larrymcg421 · 10-23-2011, 06:12 PM

Rodgers is on the other team. Of course you go for it here.

edit: And they don't.

Matthean · 10-23-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Combined 0 TDs and 7 INTs in the Raiders/Chiefs match up. Has to rank rather high in terms of most INTs without a TD.

Make that 8 INTs. I hope whoever in Grantland's Bad QB League had the Raiders started the them today.

larrymcg421 · 10-23-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Combined 0 TDs and 7 INTs in the Raiders/Chiefs match up. Has to rank rather high in terms of most INTs without a TD.

This one was harder to look up, but it looks like the record is a Lions-Redskins game from 1965 where the QB's combined for 10 INT's and 0 TD's.

But with the 8th INT, it does look like it ties the modern record set in 1982 by the Bills-Dolphins and matched in 1987 by the Chargers-Broncos.

mckerney · 10-23-2011, 08:08 PM

Damn, no help from Miami, St. Louis or Indy this week.

Big Fo · 10-23-2011, 08:39 PM

Great comeback loss by the Dolphins. I was worried about this game beforehand.

cuervo72 · 10-23-2011, 08:42 PM

The only suspense regarding this game is if NBC can find a way to keep Al Michaels interested.

Young Drachma · 10-23-2011, 08:54 PM

Some fear Luck could make a power play | ProFootballTalk

Luck isn't going to your crappy team(s). He's gonna pull an Eli and go where he wants.

molson · 10-23-2011, 09:25 PM

I think Palmer will be a little better than this, but I definitely think he's in that group of NFL QBs ranked 15-40 or so that really aren't that different from each other and can do OK or suck depending on the team and system....Kyle Boller is probably in that group too.

RainMaker · 10-23-2011, 09:48 PM

Colts are utter shit and I don't know how Caldwell keeps a job tomorrow morning.

Danny · 10-23-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I think Palmer will be a little better than this, but I definitely think he's in that group of NFL QBs ranked 15-40 or so that really aren't that different from each other and can do OK or suck depending on the team and system....Kyle Boller is probably in that group too.

The first part of your statement is certainly arguable. The second part is not. Boller should be out of the NFL

Matthean · 10-23-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Some fear Luck could make a power play | ProFootballTalk

Luck isn't going to your crappy team(s). He's gonna pull an Eli and go where he wants.

It will be interesting to see who they would target as a team to go to considering a number of bad teams will have new coaching staffs.

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Colts are utter shit and I don't know how Caldwell keeps a job tomorrow morning.

Just came here to make a similar comment. This is an utter and complete mail in job.

Galaxy · 10-23-2011, 10:01 PM

Tanking on purpose?

molson · 10-23-2011, 10:04 PM

Why would any coach, or any player, lose games on purpose when none of them would likely be anywhere near the franchise down the road when and if the #1 pick pays off? I've never understood why so many people claim this happens. I can see a new GM with job security have a younger team when they're not going to be that good, with the idea that you can develop players and probably get a high draft pick (and hold onto your job by claiming you're "rebuilding"), but I never bought that coaches and players are actually tanking games.

spleen1015 · 10-23-2011, 10:05 PM

Time to take off my Colts colored glasses. I don't think this team would be very good with Manning healthy. The defense can't stop anyone.

Matthean · 10-23-2011, 10:14 PM

I know he's doing well in this game, but I have to admit Ingram has been disappointing so far. Before this game, he had 71 att., 238 yards(3.3 ave), and 3 TDs. Compare this to 47 att., 207 yards(4.4), and 6 TDs....by Cam Newton.

Danny · 10-23-2011, 10:23 PM

The funny thing is though, that I think Manning's injury and the team's performance this year cement his legacy more than if had been healthy and had a good season.

RainMaker · 10-23-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Why would any coach, or any player, lose games on purpose when none of them would likely be anywhere near the franchise down the road when and if the #1 pick pays off? I've never understood why so many people claim this happens. I can see a new GM with job security have a younger team when they're not going to be that good, with the idea that you can develop players and probably get a high draft pick (and hold onto your job by claiming you're "rebuilding"), but I never bought that coaches and players are actually tanking games.

No one is tanking. I just don't think anyone on that team gives a shit.

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Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Yeah, and that was in a 1 point loss. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

10-23-2011, 04:42 PM	#104
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I was wondering how you looked that up.. I was trying to figure out a way to get that stat too. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

10-23-2011, 05:00 PM	#109
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Tamba Hali doing his best Kimo impression on Carson Palmer's knee during his first pass as a Raider. Last edited by RedKingGold : 10-23-2011 at 05:00 PM.

10-23-2011, 05:12 PM	#111
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Aaron Rodgers should just change his name to QB Robot X or something like that. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

10-23-2011, 05:30 PM	#117
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Woo!! We got a 1st and 2nd for that guy! __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

10-23-2011, 04:55 PM	#105
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Boller making the Raiders giving up a lot for a passable QB not look so bad??

10-23-2011, 04:58 PM	#107
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Classic Husain Abdullah.

10-23-2011, 04:59 PM	#108
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Wow Vikings, letting Jennings get so wide open.

10-23-2011, 05:06 PM	#110
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	It was just a matter of time for the Packers to pull away and pull away quickly.

10-23-2011, 05:22 PM	#113
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Will we ever see a non-QB or RB win the MVP again?

10-23-2011, 05:24 PM	#115
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Amazing to see the turnaround from the Chiefs. They're looking like the division champs of last year now. Playing with a ton of confidence. Great part for the Chiefs is that their divisional remaining schedule is very favorable: Home: Raiders, Chargers, Broncos Road: Broncos We'll see if they can keep it up.

10-23-2011, 05:29 PM	#116
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	And Woodson takes a bow. My oh my.

10-23-2011, 05:31 PM	#118
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Aikman, immediately after Ponder's second pick: "I think Christian Ponder has had a nice outing."

10-23-2011, 05:33 PM	#120
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Mason Crosby is sure earning that new contract. Wowza.

10-23-2011, 05:35 PM	#121
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That was a heck of a run by Peterson there. Shame his team is so bad

10-23-2011, 05:36 PM	#122
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Its crazy.. I am sure the only throws Palmer can make anymore are dumpoffs, sideline comebacks, and short out routes. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

10-23-2011, 05:39 PM	#123
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Palmer looks terrrrrrible. He hasn't played in a while, so it could just be rust, but not a good start. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

10-23-2011, 05:42 PM	#125
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Once upon a time, I was a big fan of Kevin Kolb, but he looks really bad out there.

10-23-2011, 05:52 PM	#126
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Combined 0 TDs and 7 INTs in the Raiders/Chiefs match up. Has to rank rather high in terms of most INTs without a TD. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 10-23-2011 at 05:54 PM.

10-23-2011, 05:58 PM	#129
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Decent drive for Ponder. He's showing lots of good things to go along with the bad. I will be interested to see how he develops for the remainder of the season. On the second pick to Woodson, he's got to know that it's Woodson there and that he undercuts EVERYTHING, so he needs to float the ball over his receivers shoulders. That's stuff you learn as you go..

10-23-2011, 06:06 PM	#130
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Good lord. Raiders are just committing stupid penalties for the sake of keeping their league lead in that department.

10-23-2011, 06:10 PM	#133
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I think theyre just trying to keep Palmer off the field now. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

10-23-2011, 06:12 PM	#134
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Rodgers is on the other team. Of course you go for it here. edit: And they don't. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner Last edited by larrymcg421 : 10-23-2011 at 06:12 PM.

10-23-2011, 08:08 PM	#137
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Damn, no help from Miami, St. Louis or Indy this week.

10-23-2011, 08:39 PM	#138
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Great comeback loss by the Dolphins. I was worried about this game beforehand.

10-23-2011, 08:42 PM	#139
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	The only suspense regarding this game is if NBC can find a way to keep Al Michaels interested. __________________ null

10-23-2011, 08:54 PM	#140
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10-23-2011, 09:25 PM	#141
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I think Palmer will be a little better than this, but I definitely think he's in that group of NFL QBs ranked 15-40 or so that really aren't that different from each other and can do OK or suck depending on the team and system....Kyle Boller is probably in that group too. Last edited by molson : 10-23-2011 at 09:25 PM.

10-23-2011, 09:48 PM	#142
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Colts are utter shit and I don't know how Caldwell keeps a job tomorrow morning.

10-23-2011, 10:01 PM	#145
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Tanking on purpose?

10-23-2011, 10:04 PM	#146
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Why would any coach, or any player, lose games on purpose when none of them would likely be anywhere near the franchise down the road when and if the #1 pick pays off? I've never understood why so many people claim this happens. I can see a new GM with job security have a younger team when they're not going to be that good, with the idea that you can develop players and probably get a high draft pick (and hold onto your job by claiming you're "rebuilding"), but I never bought that coaches and players are actually tanking games. Last edited by molson : 10-23-2011 at 10:04 PM.

10-23-2011, 10:05 PM	#147
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Time to take off my Colts colored glasses. I don't think this team would be very good with Manning healthy. The defense can't stop anyone. Last edited by spleen1015 : 10-23-2011 at 10:06 PM.

10-23-2011, 10:14 PM	#148
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I know he's doing well in this game, but I have to admit Ingram has been disappointing so far. Before this game, he had 71 att., 238 yards(3.3 ave), and 3 TDs. Compare this to 47 att., 207 yards(4.4), and 6 TDs....by Cam Newton. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

10-23-2011, 10:23 PM	#149
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	The funny thing is though, that I think Manning's injury and the team's performance this year cement his legacy more than if had been healthy and had a good season.

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