The Week 15 NFL Thread - The Tebow Watch has Begun - Page 4

Sun Tzu · 12-19-2010, 06:54 PM

I'm a 49er fan, and I'm embarrassed that we could very well be going to the playoffs with a 7-9 record. I'm not interested in my team being a statistical anomaly.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 06:55 PM

Collie got another concussion?? Jeez...

stevew · 12-19-2010, 06:57 PM

Sucks to lose to the bitchy jets, but it was an exciting game

Matthean · 12-19-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FF

so you agree then that his injuries have slowed him down?

But he was putting up average numbers early on even when he was healthy. First game was 1.4 ypc. Again, Morris is putting up 5+ as of late and mostly with a back up QB. Best isn't a guy you have carry the ball a bunch of times as a main RB. He's somebody you find ways to get the ball in open space.

Mustang · 12-19-2010, 07:15 PM

At least with the Eagles and Detroit winning, when the Packers lose tonight to the Pats, it isn't a killer. If they win vs the Giants and Bears at home, they go to the playoffs.

TroyF · 12-19-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Not pretty on anything more than 5-10 yards. He has nice timing and touch on his screen passes and short dump-offs. Seems to have a habit of just tossing the ball up for grabs deep and he got lucky on the Lloyd TD, but he's not going to be able to do that on a regular basis.

He got lucky on the TD to Lloyd. He also threw a picture perfect pass in the end zone that was dropped.

I think the overriding story of this game was simply how bad Denver's offensive line played.

Denver running backs had 25 carries for 28 yards. 20 of those yards came on three carries. Take them away and you have 22 carries for 8 yards.

Tebow dropped back for an actual pass 19 times today. He threw 16 passes, ran for yardage once and hit the deck twice. He had 78 yards rushing and 72 of those yards were on designed runs.

Where am I going with this? Out of those 19 drop backs, he had time to actually make a read three times. (watch the tape if you don't believe me) I'm not talking about the pocket collapsing, I'm talking about Raiders flying in unblocked all day.

I don't have the coaches tape where I can see missed reads and things of that nature. But of the incomplete passes that were thrown, he had 1 horribly unlucky drop (very, very nice throw), 1 other drop, 3 screen passes that were blown up by the Raiders and had no chance of completion, 2 pressured throws that were poorly thrown and 1 time where he threw the ball away.

Of the 8 completions he had, 1 was incredibly lucky (TD to Lloyd) and 7 of them were solid passes. Included in the solid passes was a deep crossing route to Gafney and an opposite hash deep out route to Lloyd that was thrown very well.

Honestly, I just want to see the kid play more and try to throw away the hype and the hatred of him and see what happens. If I had to make a prediction, I'll say he busts. That said, his arm strength is a hell of a lot better than anyone gives him credit for. (In fact, I'd call it well above average arm strength) I also was impressed that he didn't just try to run when the pocket collapsed. He stayed in there and tried to make throws. The game plan was ultra conservative and we need to see how he adjusts to the speed of the game now that he's going to have some time to look at the film.

All in all, I'd give him a B and the Broncos offensive line an F-

Atocep · 12-19-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

He got lucky on the TD to Lloyd. He also threw a picture perfect pass in the end zone that was dropped.

That was posted before the dropped TD pass and the nice 20 yard deep out to Lloyd.

He was better than I expected today. The most impressive part was, as I mentioned, his feel for the screens and short passes. Arm strength is much, much better than he showed at UF.

Any kid with pro dreams needs to take a look at what Tebow was at UF and wonder if he got any coaching at all there.

Atocep · 12-19-2010, 07:35 PM

Of course I remember there was some news about a certain HC at UF leaving or something so I don't guess it matters anymore.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 07:44 PM

Fuck me with the onside kick Packers. Jeezus Pats!!

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 07:51 PM

WOOT!!

3rd and 17...Brady gets 17.5 on a pass to Branch. Next play...33yd rumble by BJGE (great block by Branch) for a TD.

SWEEET

sabotai · 12-19-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I just saw the end of the PHI-NYG game. Now prior to that, I heard Jim Nantz rip Desean Jackson for not just running in the end zone. He seemed to be doing the same thing that the "brilliant" Brandon Stokley did a few years ago? I get it. His showboating is aggravating to some, but this is still a good play,no?

I think time expired long before Jackson got near the end zone. Just check the video on YouTube and he was crossing the 25 yard line when the clock went to zero (although he probably didn't look up to check the time).

Swaggs · 12-19-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Sucks to lose to the bitchy jets, but it was an exciting game

Despite the TD and a couple of decent catches, Spaeth is high on my list of Steelers that need cut on the first day of the offseason.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:11 PM

Ugh. That was ugly.

Atocep · 12-19-2010, 08:15 PM

Wow

Brady nearly got killed there. You don't see a guy get a full head of steam running directly at the QB often.

Mustang · 12-19-2010, 08:17 PM

WTF.. Does Mesko do the cha-cha while waiting for the snap?

jeff061 · 12-19-2010, 08:17 PM

I can't believe they gave up that long TD. Fucking Meriweather.

jeff061 · 12-19-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

WTF.. Does Mesko do the cha-cha while waiting for the snap?

Ha, was thinking same thing.

stevew · 12-19-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Despite the TD and a couple of decent catches, Spaeth is high on my list of Steelers that need cut on the first day of the offseason.

Basically every time him and even Heath run with the ball, I cringe cause they're flopping around like a couple jackasses out there. You aren't Kellen Winslow, catch the ball and get down.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

I can't believe they gave up that long TD. Fucking Meriweather.

Yeah...seriously.

Although not sure why they didn't bring more pressure on Flynn on that play.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:26 PM

Far too many 3rd and longs for the Pats here. Brady will get picked.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:41 PM

Ugh.

WTF Patriots. Ugh.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:43 PM

Seriously Patriots!?!?! Seriously!?!?!!?

QuikSand · 12-19-2010, 08:45 PM

now that was cool

miami_fan · 12-19-2010, 08:45 PM

Best. Play. Of the Weekend.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:46 PM

LMAO!!!!

Packers kick it short...Dan Connelly (RG) returns it down to the 4 yard-line!!!

Fuck...so close to a TD for the big man!!!

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:46 PM

Punch this shit in now Pats...c'mon. Make it a fuckin game!

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:51 PM

TD!!

Now I feel better. I think the Pats O-line will made adjustments during the half to better deal with the Packers blitz and the 2nd half will be a different story.

Poli · 12-19-2010, 08:53 PM

Is DT always this enjoyable?

Izulde · 12-19-2010, 08:55 PM

He's one of the more impassioned fans, yes.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:57 PM

Yep!!

LOL - okay - so I really love the Toshiba/T-Pain commercial.

jeff061 · 12-19-2010, 08:57 PM

It's 2010 and I finally replaced my 29" CRT, 12 years after purchase, with a 46" LCD. This is my first Pats game with it. So nice.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:58 PM

I'm only 21 posts behind Jon for 3rd place in terms of # of posts...interesting!

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

It's 2010 and I finally replaced my 29" CRT, 12 years after purchase, with a 46" LCD. This is my first Pats game with it. So nice.

You should come watch the game at my place sometime dude!!!

stevew · 12-19-2010, 09:01 PM

why do I always turn on the game when they're doing the tiny football league.

Abe Sargent · 12-19-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

why...they...doing the tiny football league.

FIXED!!!

jeff061 · 12-19-2010, 09:06 PM

Clearly you got a setup to show off

. But yeah, that should happen.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 09:12 PM

PICK 6!

You had to figure Flynn was going to toss at least one...

jeff061 · 12-19-2010, 09:12 PM

Christ, how the hell he get that back.

stevew · 12-19-2010, 09:13 PM

wow, he just broke 4 tackles.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Clearly you got a setup to show off

. But yeah, that should happen.

Well I'm just saying - you're right down the road...seems kinda silly we've never met up before. Whether it's at my place or yours.

jeff061 · 12-19-2010, 09:14 PM

Yeah I know, was kidding. Meeting up at your place sounds good to me.

stevew · 12-19-2010, 09:15 PM

The best part is how a 7-9 team is going to pick 20th overall, at the best. If they somehow win a playoff game, they'll be part of "final 8" signing restrictions if those still exist.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Yeah I know, was kidding. Meeting up at your place sounds good to me.

Aaah - I missed the smiley...was looking for some game disc's and checking out the INT clearly.

TroyF · 12-19-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

That was posted before the dropped TD pass and the nice 20 yard deep out to Lloyd.

He was better than I expected today. The most impressive part was, as I mentioned, his feel for the screens and short passes. Arm strength is much, much better than he showed at UF.

Any kid with pro dreams needs to take a look at what Tebow was at UF and wonder if he got any coaching at all there.

I quoted you, but really shouldn't have. I know you posted before the other things.

I'm just stunned by his arm strength. He still has a long wind up, but given time in the pocket, he can really let it rip.

The Broncos offensive line is just in shambles right now. They need to shut Clady down. He should not be out there now. As for the rest of it, they should just let Tebow run the spread and try for a lot of quick passes or bombs. The running game is useless and the pass protection can't hold up with even a five step drop. The DLine is by far the weakest link of this team, but the offensive line has been every bit as putrid.

Happy Tebow looked better than I thought he would and happy the team lost.

Alan T · 12-19-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Well I'm just saying - you're right down the road...seems kinda silly we've never met up before. Whether it's at my place or yours.

Lets do a Superbowl party at your place. We can all watch and root for the Falcons to win it!

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Lets do a Superbowl party at your place. We can all watch and root for the Falcons to win it!

If they're not playing the Pats...

RainMaker · 12-19-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

If they're not playing the Pats...

With this Pats defense, I don't think you have to worry about that game taking place.

jeff061 · 12-19-2010, 09:40 PM

As sharp as Flynn as looked, the Pat's inability to stop the run is what's killing them, IMHO. How that happens in a game like this, I don't know. They've been pretty good at that all year.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

As sharp as Flynn as looked, the Pat's inability to stop the run is what's killing them, IMHO. How that happens in a game like this, I don't know. They've been pretty good at that all year.

Missing Gerrard Warren? Missing Deaderick for most of the game...missing Brace. Not a lot of depth on the DL (dunno if Gerard Warren is playing tonight or not...)

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

With this Pats defense, I don't think you have to worry about that game taking place.

Making overly much of one game? With a banged up defense?

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12-19-2010, 08:11 PM	#163
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12-19-2010, 06:57 PM	#153
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Sucks to lose to the bitchy jets, but it was an exciting game

12-19-2010, 07:35 PM	#158
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Of course I remember there was some news about a certain HC at UF leaving or something so I don't guess it matters anymore.

12-19-2010, 07:51 PM	#160
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	WOOT!! 3rd and 17...Brady gets 17.5 on a pass to Branch. Next play...33yd rumble by BJGE (great block by Branch) for a TD. SWEEET

12-19-2010, 08:15 PM	#164
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Wow Brady nearly got killed there. You don't see a guy get a full head of steam running directly at the QB often.

12-19-2010, 08:17 PM	#165
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	WTF.. Does Mesko do the cha-cha while waiting for the snap? __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

12-19-2010, 08:17 PM	#166
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I can't believe they gave up that long TD. Fucking Meriweather. __________________

12-19-2010, 08:26 PM	#170
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Far too many 3rd and longs for the Pats here. Brady will get picked.

12-19-2010, 08:41 PM	#171
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Ugh. WTF Patriots. Ugh.

12-19-2010, 08:43 PM	#172
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Seriously Patriots!?!?! Seriously!?!?!!?

12-19-2010, 08:45 PM	#173
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	now that was cool

12-19-2010, 08:45 PM	#174
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12-19-2010, 08:46 PM	#175
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	LMAO!!!! Packers kick it short...Dan Connelly (RG) returns it down to the 4 yard-line!!! Fuck...so close to a TD for the big man!!!

12-19-2010, 08:46 PM	#176
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Punch this shit in now Pats...c'mon. Make it a fuckin game!

12-19-2010, 08:51 PM	#177
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	TD!! Now I feel better. I think the Pats O-line will made adjustments during the half to better deal with the Packers blitz and the 2nd half will be a different story.

12-19-2010, 08:53 PM	#178
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12-19-2010, 08:58 PM	#182
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I'm only 21 posts behind Jon for 3rd place in terms of # of posts...interesting!

12-19-2010, 09:01 PM	#184
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	why do I always turn on the game when they're doing the tiny football league. Last edited by stevew : 12-19-2010 at 09:01 PM.

12-19-2010, 09:06 PM	#186
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Clearly you got a setup to show off . But yeah, that should happen. __________________

12-19-2010, 09:12 PM	#187
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	PICK 6! You had to figure Flynn was going to toss at least one...

12-19-2010, 09:12 PM	#188
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Christ, how the hell he get that back. __________________

12-19-2010, 09:13 PM	#189
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	wow, he just broke 4 tackles.

12-19-2010, 09:14 PM	#191
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Yeah I know, was kidding. Meeting up at your place sounds good to me. __________________

12-19-2010, 09:15 PM	#192
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The best part is how a 7-9 team is going to pick 20th overall, at the best. If they somehow win a playoff game, they'll be part of "final 8" signing restrictions if those still exist.

12-19-2010, 09:40 PM	#198
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	As sharp as Flynn as looked, the Pat's inability to stop the run is what's killing them, IMHO. How that happens in a game like this, I don't know. They've been pretty good at that all year. __________________

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