Passion of the Mel

[Flasch186]

Mel Gibson arrested for DUI

Friday, July 28, 2006; Posted: 4:13 p.m. EDT (20:13 GMT)



LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Actor and director Mel Gibson was arrested Friday in Malibu, California, and charged with driving under the influence, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office.

Gibson, 50, was pulled over early Friday while driving on the Pacific Coast Highway, said sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore. Officers on patrol reported Gibson was driving at an "excessively fast speed," he said.

He was charged with a misdemeanor and posted $5,000 bond, Whitmore said.

Gibson was not immediately available for comment.

Gibson, who acted in the "Lethal Weapon" movie series, won an Oscar for directing 1995's Oscar-winning best picture "Braveheart."

He reportedly financed the controversial movie "The Passion of the Christ" (2004), which he also directed, with $25 million of his own money. The film made $370 million at the domestic box office and currently ranks No. 10 on the all-time box office list. "Passion of the Christ" was nominated for three Oscars, but won none.

Gibson's latest movie, "Apocalypto," set in the Mayan civilization of several centuries ago, is due in December.

[SunDevil]

Looks like he had a little too much of the grape juice...

[AgustusM]

It always amazes me when people who have enough money to never have to drive anywhere again continue to make this type of stupid mistake.

I would be chauffeured around every time I planned on drinking so much as an old grape soda if I could afford it.

[Flasch186]

i find it Ironic about his religious stance(s) and then does this.

[MJ4H]

Why? Christians are not perfect, you know.

[Greyroofoo]

too much Jesus Juice

[Pyser]

isnt he a recovering alcoholic?

[RedKingGold]

And in further news; Chiefs LT Willie Roaf is retiring after playing in the NFL for 11 seasons.

I'm not sure if thats been mentioned yet...but thats a pretty bigs loss.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

i find it Ironic about his religious stance(s) and then does this.

That's an ignorant statement.

Christians, or a person of any faith, are not perfect. That's why they have a religion.

[Schmidty]

Dola.

Religious discussions not withstanding, drinking while driving is a an awful, selfish thing to do.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

i find it Ironic about his religious stance(s) and then does this.

Gibson is a Catholic, and Catholics as a denomination see nothing wrong with 'imbibing', although the Bible does speak very specifically to 'drunkeness'.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Gibson is a Catholic, and Catholics as a denomination see nothing wrong with 'imbibing', although the Bible does speak very specifically to 'drunkeness'.

And he was drunk, so what's the point of your post? No offense.

[stevew]

I remember once when the Priest in town here got a DUI.

And if I had the money, like he does, it's chauffer all the way.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

And he was drunk, so what's the point of your post? No offense.

Well, a 'Christian' would have a problem with drunkeness, many denominations of Christians (Baptists, Pentecostals, etc.) would have a problem with drinking at all. I know many non-denominational Christians that will have a glass of wine or a beer on occasion.

But having grown up a Catholic, I know first-hand that 'drinking to excess' is not neccessarily seen as a problem with your personal faith and walk with God. Most Protestants would dissagree. Not trying to start anything here, just pointing out the differences in how drinking is viewed in general.

A young Christian in the Protestant faith would be seen as 'lacking maturity' by drinking to excess. Drink to excess as you continue to grow older and your very salvation would be questioned, because growing in the faith and closer to God should dampen the desire to drink as your faith replaces it.

One reason many non-denominational Christians believing in the Bible are former Catholics (like myself) is because as Catholics we just didn't see the evidence of a presence of God in our own or other people's lives. Which meant that many church-going people on Sunday were lighting up the bars on Saturday night.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by AgustusM

It always amazes me when people who have enough money to never have to drive anywhere again continue to make this type of stupid mistake.

I would be chauffeured around every time I planned on drinking so much as an old grape soda if I could afford it.

No kidding. If I had Mel's money, I would turn in my driver's license. ESPECIALLY if I lived someplace like Los Angeles, where driving is a headache.

[terpkristin]

HAHA I keep reading the title of this thread as "Passion of the Me!"

I need help.

/tk

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by terpkristin

HAHA I keep reading the title of this thread as "Passion of the Me!"

I need help.

/tk

That's the title of the home video I'm making of myself while my wife is gone.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

One reason many non-denominational Christians believing in the Bible are former Catholics (like myself) is because as Catholics we just didn't see the evidence of a presence of God in our own or other people's lives. Which meant that many church-going people on Sunday were lighting up the bars on Saturday night.

I have no idea what this means.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

i find it Ironic about his religious stance(s) and then does this.

Congratulations, you are the dumbest man on the planet.

[amdaily]

What I find ironic is that nearly half of the posters in this thread have also posted in the drunk thread tonight, me now included

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I have no idea what this means.

The things of the cross are foolishness to those who perish.

You have to be 'regenerated.' Born-again. Have met the real God in your own spirit thru His Spirit.

BTW, let me just add, this is what the Bible says and Christians with personal relationships with Christ have experienced. Not my 'personal opinion."

[Flasch186]

Well, after finding this article in Playboy Im not sure why the high standards for him anyways....

Mel Gibson on evolution, women, and political conspiracy theory
This is from a Mel Gibson interview with Playboy magazine in the July 1995 issue.

On evolution:

PLAYBOY: Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or that God created man in his image?

GIBSON: The latter.

PLAYBOY: So you can't accept that we descended from monkeys and apes?

GIBSON: No, I think it's bullshit. If it isn't, why are they still around? How come apes aren't people yet? It's a nice theory, but I can't swallow it. There's a big credibility gap. The carbon dating thing that tells you how long something's been around, how accurate is that, really? I've got one of Darwin's books at home and some of that stuff is pretty damn funny. Some of his stuff is true, like that the giraffe has a long neck so it can reach the leaves. But I just don't think you can swallow the whole piece.

Why does anyone think his first point is a good argument against evolution? I've never heard anyone argue that Italian-Americans couldn't have come from Italy because there are still Italians there.

And I wonder what book by Darwin he has.

On assorted moral issues:

PLAYBOY: We take it that you're not particularly broad-minded when it comes to issues such as celibacy, abortion, birth control.

GIBSON: People always focus on stuff like that. Those aren't issues. Those
are unquestionable. You don't even argue those points.

PLAYBOY: You don't?

GIBSON: No.

On women:

PLAYBOY: What about allowing women to be priests?

GIBSON: No.

PLAYBOY: Why not?

GIBSON: I'll get kicked around for saying it, but men and women are just different. They're not equal. The same way that you and I are not equal.

PLAYBOY: That's true. You have more money.

GIBSON: You might be more intelligent, or you might have a bigger dick. Whatever it is, nobody's equal. And men and women are not equal. I have tremendous respect for women. I love them. I don't know why they want to step down. Women in my family are the center of things. And good things emanate from them. The guys usually mess up.

PLAYBOY: That's quite a generalization.

GIBSON: Women are just different. Their sensibilities are different.

PLAYBOY: Any examples?

GIBSON: I had a female business partner once. Didn't work.

PLAYBOY: Why not?

GIBSON: She was a cunt.

PLAYBOY: And the feminists dare to put you down!

GIBSON: Feminists don't like me, and I don't like them. I don't get their point. I don't know why feminists have it out for me, but that's their problem, not mine.

Interesting that he thinks a woman being a priest would be "a step down." From many occupations, I'd agree.

Gibson on political conspiracy theory:

PLAYBOY: How do you feel about Bill Clinton?

GIBSON: He's a low-level opportunist. Somebody's telling him what to do.

PLAYBOY: Who?

GIBSON: The guy who's in charge isn't going to be the front man, ever. If I were going to be calling the shots I wouldn't make an appearance. Would you? You'd end up losing your head. It happens all the time. All those monarchs. If he's the leader, he's getting shafted. What's keeping him in there? Why would you stay for that kind of abuse? Except that he has to stay for some reason. He was meant to be the president 30 years ago, if you ask me.

PLAYBOY: He was just 18 then.

GIBSON: Somebody knew then that he would be president now.

PLAYBOY: You really believe that?

GIBSON: I really believe that. He was a Rhodes scholar, right? Just like Bob Hawke. Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it's Marxism, but it just doesn't want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don't admit to it. Do it by stealth. There's a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around the world.

PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You must be quite an assassination buff.

GIBSON: Oh, fuck. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There's something to do with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can't remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I'll end up dead if I keep talking shit.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Well, a 'Christian' would have a problem with drunkeness, many denominations of Christians (Baptists, Pentecostals, etc.) would have a problem with drinking at all. I know many non-denominational Christians that will have a glass of wine or a beer on occasion.

Take this as a word of advice. Never, ever, ever lump Baptists in the same group with anything. Baptists, as a denominational group are more diverse than many full blown religions. There are thousands of different baptist denominations and individual churches. As such, I'd recommend steering clear of saying things like this.

-Anxiety

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Take this as a word of advice. Never, ever, ever lump Baptists in the same group with anything. Baptists, as a denominational group are more diverse than many full blown religions. There are thousands of different baptist denominations and individual churches. As such, I'd recommend steering clear of saying things like this.

-Anxiety

As better put by Emo Phillips:

Originally Posted by Emo Phillips

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said 'Stop! don't do it!'

'Why shouldn't I?' he said.

I said, 'Well, there's so much to live for!'

He said, 'Like what?'

I said, 'Well...are you religious or atheist?'

He said, 'Religious.'

I said, 'Me too!

Are you Christian or Buddhist?'

He said, 'Christian.'

I said, 'Me too!

Are you Catholic or Protestant?'

He said, 'Protestant.'

I said, 'Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?'

He said, 'Baptist!'

I said, 'Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?'

He said, 'Baptist Church of God!'

I said, 'Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you reformed Baptist Church of God?'

He said, 'Reformed Baptist Church of God!'

I said, 'Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?'

He said, 'Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!'

I said, 'Die, heretic scum,' and pushed him off.

[Abe Sargent]

funny

[AZSpeechCoach]

To echo the Emo Phillips joke, Mel is not a Roman Catholic as we know them. The sect that he believes in doesn't recognize Vatican II. Don't lump him in with all Catholics either.

[Karlifornia]

the most horrifying thing in this entire thread is those playboy interview excerpts. The idiocy of this man is nauseating. Who raised this guy?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Who raised this guy?

A human?

[MrBug708]

Hey Flasch, j ust wondering if you knew Clinton was a self proclaimed christian. Why not start a thread about his lewd acts since your taking pot shots at a group of people...

[Johnny Slick]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

the most horrifying thing in this entire thread is those playboy interview excerpts. The idiocy of this man is nauseating. Who raised this guy?

Seriously, man... have you read stuff by and about his dad? I'm amazed that Mel Gibson has any sense of sanity being brought up by that fube.

[Karlifornia]

Mel is one of those guys who actually has a well-functioning brain, but he was brought up so idiotically that the smarts he may have are dipping from the wrong well.

[Johnny Slick]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

A human?

Close, but no cigar.

[Flasch186]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Hey Flasch, j ust wondering if you knew Clinton was a self proclaimed christian. Why not start a thread about his lewd acts since your taking pot shots at a group of people...

cuz thats old. How's about Kennedy's lewd acts? Or Marv Albert's? The pot shot wasn't at a group of people, there are many decent and non-hypocritical religious people....Mel just happens not to be one of them.

EDIT to add: And Clinton's mistake IMO as evidenced by the results (thank God Mel didnt kill someone or himself) had much larger and harsher repurcussions....so, I guess, if I was here back then Id have no problem hammering (no pun intended) the guy.

[Dutch]

Stupid Christians.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Stupid Christians.

Throw em' to the Lions!

Originally Posted by thesloppy

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

cuz thats old. How's about Kennedy's lewd acts? Or Marv Albert's? The pot shot wasn't at a group of people, there are many decent and non-hypocritical religious people....Mel just happens not to be one of them.

EDIT to add: And Clinton's mistake IMO as evidenced by the results (thank God Mel didnt kill someone or himself) had much larger and harsher repurcussions....so, I guess, if I was here back then Id have no problem hammering (no pun intended) the guy.

If you don't understand Christianity (as clearly you don't) perhaps you should refrain from commenting on it.

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

the most horrifying thing in this entire thread is those playboy interview excerpts. The idiocy of this man is nauseating. Who raised this guy?

an australian nazi

[Flasch186]

nowhere in this thread did I mention "Christians". Religion and Faith can be seperate things, Im sorry if you interpreted my disappointment in Mel (pre-Playboy article) as a slap ONLY at Christianity, it was not intended to be that way.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

nowhere in this thread did I mention "Christians". Religion and Faith can be seperate things, Im sorry if you interpreted my disappointment in Mel (pre-Playboy article) as a slap ONLY at Christianity, it was not intended to be that way.

lol

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

nowhere in this thread did I mention "Christians". Religion and Faith can be seperate things, Im sorry if you interpreted my disappointment in Mel (pre-Playboy article) as a slap ONLY at Christianity, it was not intended to be that way.

WTF?

[Flasch186]

you can have faith without religion, they are not the same thing.

Edit to add: it seems, according to Wikipedia, you cant have religion without faith, however....which makes sense.

EDIT to add again: unless of course, someone is faking one or the other.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

nowhere in this thread did I mention "Christians". Religion and Faith can be seperate things, Im sorry if you interpreted my disappointment in Mel (pre-Playboy article) as a slap ONLY at Christianity, it was not intended to be that way.

Originally Posted by Flasch186

i find it Ironic about his religious stance(s) and then does this.

What was his religion again?

[Flasch186]

I kindly ask you to do the same:

[duckman]

LOL

[Greyroofoo]

how can you stand that yellow skin?

[Flasch186]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

how can you stand that yellow skin?

Who you callin' Yella!!!

J/K I didnt know that there were any alternatives.


found it.

Flush is pretty nice

[Flasch186]

I give him full credit, now, on this particular issue for stepping up to the plate and addressing this full frontal. He didnt make up an excuse, or claim it was prescription drugs, or something like that. Good for him, on this particular topic....I may not agree with some of his earlier quotes but you have to give him credit for his spine on this and his sincere apology and feelings of being ashamed. This should be an example on how to handle this type of adversity, IMO.



Gibson apologizes for behavior
'I disgraced myself,' star says after 'horrific relapse' and arrest

Saturday, July 29, 2006; Posted: 6:48 p.m. EDT (22:48 GMT)



LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Actor and director Mel Gibson issued a statement on Saturday, apologizing to deputies for his "belligerent behavior" when he was arrested on suspicion of DUI in Malibu the day before.

Gibson said that he has "battled the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse," according to the statement.

Gibson, 50, was pulled over Friday on the scenic Pacific Coast Highway after "deputies were alerted by their radar that his speed was above the posted limit," according to a news release from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. (Watch how the arrest casts a different spotlight on Gibson -- 1:28)

When officers approached Gibson they smelled alcohol on his breath, and a Breathalyzer test showed that his blood-alcohol content was 0.12, the sheriff's department release said. The California legal limit is 0.08.

He was taken into custody and later posted $5,000 bond for his release, said sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore.

The police did not charge him with driving under the influence because it's the district attorney's duty to decide if the arrest merits charges.

In his statement, Gibson acknowledges that he had been drinking Thursday night and that "I did a number of things that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when I should not have. ... I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person."

"I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable," the statement said. "I am deeply ashamed of everything I said."

He added: "Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in my community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry."

Gibson further said he has long battled alcoholism, and "I apologize for any behavior unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken necessary steps to ensure my return to health."

Gibson, who acted in the "Lethal Weapon" and "Mad Max" movie series, won an Oscar for directing 1995's Oscar-winning best picture "Braveheart."

He reportedly financed the controversial movie "The Passion of the Christ" (2004), which he also directed, with $25 million of his own money.

The film made $370 million at the domestic box office and ranks No. 10 on the all-time box office list. "The Passion of the Christ" was nominated for three Academy Awards.

Gibson's latest movie, "Apocalypto," set in the Mayan civilization of several centuries ago, is due in December.

[duckman]

It's a good thing that he has your approval.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by duckman

It's a good thing that he has your approval.

Dude, I've been critical of Flasch in this thread, but cut the guy some fucking slack.

[Galaxy]

Mel's worth around $750 million...Think could he get a driver or a limo.