Soccer Thread 2011-2012 - Page 3

MJ4H · 07-10-2011, 02:34 PM

Im trying to work up the courage to ask Han for his daughter's hand.

PilotMan · 07-10-2011, 03:27 PM

I finally got to watch the PK's and I have to say. The Brazil keeper was off her line by a good 2 steps each and every time. It still irk's me to see that. Especially the last one, by the time that the ball is struck she is a good 5 feet in. Killer finish though. I can't believe that pass and finish in extra time. How can you NOT get excited about soccer?

SirFozzie · 07-10-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

Im trying to work up the courage to ask Han for his daughter's hand.

never quote me the odds.

MJ4H · 07-10-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

How can you NOT get excited about soccer?

The previous 65 minutes.

whomario · 07-10-2011, 04:48 PM

Germany wins 4:3 (from down 1:3) against Brazil in the 3rd place game at the U17, what an amazing match

Should have been the final it feels like though, aaargh ...

German guys need to work on their character a bit and obviously there´s weaknesses still, but in terms of individual and technical talent that was an impressive tournament

The final (Mexica-Uruguay) in front of a probably delirious crowd at the famous Aztec Stadium to follow in a little while .

Big Fo · 07-10-2011, 06:05 PM

I'd love to see Uruguay shut the Azteca up.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2011, 08:06 PM

Horrible reffing in the US vs. Brazil game (both on the initial call and then on allowing Brazil to retake the PK). Nice to see the team that deserved to win got the win.

wahoomac · 07-10-2011, 08:19 PM

I'm so glad Abby Wambach plays for Team USA. (Also glad she played for UF and helped UF win the 1998 soccer National Championship. She's been fun to watch for many years.)

SirFozzie · 07-10-2011, 09:30 PM

BTW, according to ESPN, the ref indicated after the game that the retake was due to Solo, not encroachment:

Women's World Cup -- U.S. captured lightning in a bottle against Brazil -- soccer - ESPN

Shortly following the post-match news conferences, soccer's often bumbling governing body, FIFA, said it was because Solo went forward before the ball was struck.

So that's a missed call.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2011, 09:49 PM

The announcers on TV pointed out that it was because the ref said Solo moved at the time - but anyways that was a botched call because she didn't move forward off the line before the kick. That was my point about them botching it.

miked · 07-10-2011, 10:25 PM

I think it's nice poetic justice that all the time Brazil wasted with their BS antics ended up saving the US with more injury time added. How absurd is it to fall to the ground a minute after the play, roll for 3 minutes, get carted off on a stretcher, then unstrap and run around to the other side the second you are off the field. THAT, is why people don't like soccer.

SirFozzie · 07-11-2011, 02:40 AM

Some where in the secret ESPN genetic labs, they are attempting to genetically combine Ian Darke and Gus Johnson. God help us all if they succeed.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-11-2011, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

THAT, is why people don't like soccer.

Umm, I don't think that's it.

I mean, most people who don't give two hoots in hell about it (i.e. the majority of the U.S. population) aren't likely to have seen anybody take a dive for that to be a factor.

Karlifornia · 07-11-2011, 03:09 AM

People who complain about dives in soccer are noob fans that have no place opening their mouths. There is "diving" in every sport. Get over it. It's called doing whatever it takes to win.

miked · 07-11-2011, 07:44 AM

Yawn. The diving in other sports doesn't really eat into the actual game time. I know they add injury time on, but it stops the game and takes time away from regulation. In most other sports, the clock completely stops for injuries, here we have some chick falling (it was quite a dramatic, silly fall as well) 50 yards away from the ball, a minute after the play, and we know the rest. In this country, I think you need win over the "noobs" and "casual fans" and most that I've spoken too thinks it detracts from the game.

SirFozzie · 07-11-2011, 06:02 PM

Nice series of tweets from Hope Solo:

Thank you for standing behind us. Never has a team come back to win from a man down, a goal down, and in such dramatic fashion. Last night I had a moment as I sat waiting for the penalties. I felt the energy of the stadium, I witnessed how far the game has risen, and I felt the spirit of our team as we fought together, unwilling to lose, our backs against the wall. Last night is a feeling you work your whole life for. To break free. To write your own destiny. And That's what WE, this 2011 USA team have set out to do, to write OUR OWN story.

Go ahead, jump on the bandwagon and let's do this together. One Nation, One World, One Team.

cartman · 07-11-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Some where in the secret ESPN genetic labs, they are attempting to genetically combine Ian Darke and Gus Johnson. God help us all if they succeed.

So it is written, so it shall be.

MacroGuru · 07-11-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

Im trying to work up the courage to ask Han for his daughter's hand.

+1....

Blade6119 · 07-11-2011, 06:48 PM

Today was the first pre-season game for the Man Utd reserves, so for me today was the start of the new season

sovereignstar v2 · 07-11-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hope Solo

Never has a team come back to win from a man down, a goal down, and in such dramatic fashion.

okay then

DaddyTorgo · 07-11-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

okay then

eh - she can be forgiven for feeling like that I think.

JPhillips · 07-13-2011, 11:10 AM

What a beautiful pass to start the attack on the USA goal.

SirFozzie · 07-13-2011, 11:42 AM

USA having the better of play.. so far so good.

Coffee Warlord · 07-13-2011, 12:15 PM

Not so much in the 2nd half. France draws level and are dominating.

spleen1015 · 07-13-2011, 12:19 PM

I don't understand soccer at all.

Every time France touches the ball, it ends up in the USA's end. They pass the ball the way down the field.

When the USA gets the ball, they get it almost to midfield and attempt a long pass that France intercepts and takes it back down the field.

Is this the USA's strategy or what? Are they just making stupid plays?

spleen1015 · 07-13-2011, 12:20 PM

It just seems like every time France passes, they're wide open and free to do what they want. It feels like they are playing with an extra player or 2.

whomario · 07-13-2011, 12:36 PM

Wambach is kind of annoying, running into others all the time and then whining about being fouled ...

edit : Oh well, now that´s timing

Great goal !

BYU 14 · 07-13-2011, 12:52 PM

Great finish again, US to the finals.

Now who poses the better matchup Japan or Sweden?

rowech · 07-13-2011, 01:04 PM

I know nothing about the French team but that game changed entirely when French made the sub to pull off the defender for the offensive player. Went for the win and it cost them big time.

Soccer can be such a strange game. USA was outplayed for probably 70 minutes of that game and still win by two.

whomario · 07-13-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

I know nothing about the French team but that game changed entirely when French made the sub to pull off the defender for the offensive player. Went for the win and it cost them big time.

especially since that particular striker´s main quality is her speed (which is unreal) and she had struggled in the "half court" game all tournament.

But the 2:1 fell so directly afterwards (plus from a corner) that i wouldn´t attribute it to that and the 3:1 was a 2 on 5 break where a france defender just made a horrible mistake.

But yeah, weird substitution really.

France was definitely the "better" team in terms of technical ability and space management, but their finishing was bad and they lacked the "punch" the US has. For example they got a striker alone on goal early in the 2nd half on a amazing pass, but then she just couldn´t controll the ball... Plus their GK was a weak link for sure.

For the US i was again very impressed by Rapinoe (who despite coming off the bench imo has been their best midfielder this tournament), very dynamic player who can strike a clean ball from the wing.

MrBug708 · 07-13-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Great finish again, US to the finals.

Now who poses the better matchup Japan or Sweden?

I think we have beaten Japan three times this year and have lost to Sweden

DaddyTorgo · 07-13-2011, 02:06 PM

Fuck yea USA women. At least one of our teams is world-class.

PilotMan · 07-13-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think we have beaten Japan three times this year and have lost to Sweden

I'd kind of like to see the Japan team make it. A real cinderella story and all the emotions from the 'quake and tsunami. It would be very emotional. Otoh, the US coach is from Sweden and they lost, so it could make the circle complete. Either storyline is intriguing.

MizzouRah · 07-13-2011, 02:57 PM

I want revenge on Sweeden, bring em on!

whomario · 07-13-2011, 03:39 PM

With the way women soccer is structured (in terms of leagues and all) in-season or pre-tournament (exhibition) national team matches are less than worthless and past tournament results in this case as well since Japan clearly made a giant leap forward in recent years.

Japan is just such an unusual matchup because there isn´t another team like them out there (they are very small and agile, extremely good technically but are also great at working against the ball and pressuring) and they will be absolutely brimming with confidence.

They played brilliant today, imo the single best performance by any team so far.

Should be very interesting to see at any rate

MizzouRah · 07-13-2011, 05:19 PM

Should be an excellent game!

PilotMan · 07-16-2011, 07:44 AM

Courtesy of the Onion today:

Marc Vaughan · 07-16-2011, 10:25 AM

Probably not going to be a popular 'tip' - but I'm favouring Japan to win the final I'm afraid.

I think their work rate combined with an intelligent gameplan and technical ability will see off the US team .... regardless should be a great match

rowech · 07-16-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Probably not going to be a popular 'tip' - but I'm favouring Japan to win the final I'm afraid.

I think their work rate combined with an intelligent gameplan and technical ability will see off the US team .... regardless should be a great match

I'm with you. I think Japan wins 2-1. I've been very impressed with how they've played and I still don't think the US have been outstanding throughout much of the tournament.

whomario · 07-16-2011, 03:25 PM

Copa America KO stages are up right now btw, currently Colombia vs Peru (Falcao just missed a penalty, still 0:0 at the 68th minute), next up is Argentina vs Uruguay !

MizzouRah · 07-16-2011, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Probably not going to be a popular 'tip' - but I'm favouring Japan to win the final I'm afraid.

I think their work rate combined with an intelligent gameplan and technical ability will see off the US team .... regardless should be a great match

Damn you.

USA - 2 Japan - 0

Solo gets a shutout in the Final.

sovereignstar v2 · 07-16-2011, 04:06 PM

shutout?

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2011, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomario

Copa America KO stages are up right now btw, currently Colombia vs Peru (Falcao just missed a penalty, still 0:0 at the 68th minute), next up is Argentina vs Uruguay !

Nice reminder...I had sorta forgotten that these would be on today.

MrBug708 · 07-16-2011, 04:09 PM

Yup - When a team does not score a goal; shutout

Big Fo · 07-16-2011, 05:42 PM

Argentina - Uruguay is 1-1 after 26 minutes, it's been a good one so far.

If you don't get a channel showing this game, Youtube is streaming it live.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CopaAmerica

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2011, 05:43 PM

Very good one so far...quite enjoyable.

Big Fo · 07-16-2011, 08:04 PM

Uruguay wins on penalties after a 1-1 draw despite being down a man for around 50 minutes, what a game. Muslera was brilliant. And it might be awhile before you see five penalties taken that well by one team.

cartman · 07-16-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Uruguay wins on penalties after a 1-1 draw despite being down a man for around 50 minutes, what a game. Muslera was brilliant. And it might be awhile before you see five penalties taken that well by one team.

Muslera got two blocks in 3 seconds, neither one using his hands!

MIJB#19 · 07-17-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Yup - When a team does not score a goal; shutout

I suppose some are used to the term 'cleansheet' as the individual achievement?

MrBug708 · 07-17-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

I suppose some are used to the term 'cleansheet' as the individual achievement?

Sure, but some are used to calling it football, yet here we are posting in a thread with the term called soccer.

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PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I finally got to watch the PK's and I have to say. The Brazil keeper was off her line by a good 2 steps each and every time. It still irk's me to see that. Especially the last one, by the time that the ball is struck she is a good 5 feet in. Killer finish though. I can't believe that pass and finish in extra time. How can you NOT get excited about soccer? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-10-2011, 04:48 PM	#105
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Germany wins 4:3 (from down 1:3) against Brazil in the 3rd place game at the U17, what an amazing match Should have been the final it feels like though, aaargh ... German guys need to work on their character a bit and obviously there´s weaknesses still, but in terms of individual and technical talent that was an impressive tournament The final (Mexica-Uruguay) in front of a probably delirious crowd at the famous Aztec Stadium to follow in a little while . Last edited by whomario : 07-10-2011 at 04:52 PM.

07-10-2011, 08:19 PM	#108
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07-10-2011, 09:30 PM	#109
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	BTW, according to ESPN, the ref indicated after the game that the retake was due to Solo, not encroachment: Women's World Cup -- U.S. captured lightning in a bottle against Brazil -- soccer - ESPN Shortly following the post-match news conferences, soccer's often bumbling governing body, FIFA, said it was because Solo went forward before the ball was struck. So that's a missed call. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-10-2011, 06:05 PM	#106
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I'd love to see Uruguay shut the Azteca up.

07-10-2011, 08:06 PM	#107
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Horrible reffing in the US vs. Brazil game (both on the initial call and then on allowing Brazil to retake the PK). Nice to see the team that deserved to win got the win.

07-10-2011, 09:49 PM	#110
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	The announcers on TV pointed out that it was because the ref said Solo moved at the time - but anyways that was a botched call because she didn't move forward off the line before the kick. That was my point about them botching it. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-10-2011, 10:25 PM	#111
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	I think it's nice poetic justice that all the time Brazil wasted with their BS antics ended up saving the US with more injury time added. How absurd is it to fall to the ground a minute after the play, roll for 3 minutes, get carted off on a stretcher, then unstrap and run around to the other side the second you are off the field. THAT, is why people don't like soccer. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

07-11-2011, 02:40 AM	#112
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07-11-2011, 03:09 AM	#114
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07-11-2011, 07:44 AM	#115
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Yawn. The diving in other sports doesn't really eat into the actual game time. I know they add injury time on, but it stops the game and takes time away from regulation. In most other sports, the clock completely stops for injuries, here we have some chick falling (it was quite a dramatic, silly fall as well) 50 yards away from the ball, a minute after the play, and we know the rest. In this country, I think you need win over the "noobs" and "casual fans" and most that I've spoken too thinks it detracts from the game. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

07-11-2011, 06:02 PM	#116
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Nice series of tweets from Hope Solo: Thank you for standing behind us. Never has a team come back to win from a man down, a goal down, and in such dramatic fashion. Last night I had a moment as I sat waiting for the penalties. I felt the energy of the stadium, I witnessed how far the game has risen, and I felt the spirit of our team as we fought together, unwilling to lose, our backs against the wall. Last night is a feeling you work your whole life for. To break free. To write your own destiny. And That's what WE, this 2011 USA team have set out to do, to write OUR OWN story. Go ahead, jump on the bandwagon and let's do this together. One Nation, One World, One Team. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-11-2011, 06:48 PM	#119
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07-13-2011, 11:42 AM	#123
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07-13-2011, 12:15 PM	#124
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Not so much in the 2nd half. France draws level and are dominating.

07-13-2011, 12:19 PM	#125
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I don't understand soccer at all. Every time France touches the ball, it ends up in the USA's end. They pass the ball the way down the field. When the USA gets the ball, they get it almost to midfield and attempt a long pass that France intercepts and takes it back down the field. Is this the USA's strategy or what? Are they just making stupid plays?

07-13-2011, 12:20 PM	#126
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	It just seems like every time France passes, they're wide open and free to do what they want. It feels like they are playing with an extra player or 2.

07-13-2011, 12:36 PM	#127
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Wambach is kind of annoying, running into others all the time and then whining about being fouled ... edit : Oh well, now that´s timing Great goal ! Last edited by whomario : 07-13-2011 at 12:37 PM.

07-13-2011, 12:52 PM	#128
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Great finish again, US to the finals. Now who poses the better matchup Japan or Sweden?

07-13-2011, 01:04 PM	#129
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I know nothing about the French team but that game changed entirely when French made the sub to pull off the defender for the offensive player. Went for the win and it cost them big time. Soccer can be such a strange game. USA was outplayed for probably 70 minutes of that game and still win by two.

07-13-2011, 02:06 PM	#132
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Fuck yea USA women. At least one of our teams is world-class.

07-13-2011, 02:57 PM	#134
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I want revenge on Sweeden, bring em on!

07-13-2011, 03:39 PM	#135
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	With the way women soccer is structured (in terms of leagues and all) in-season or pre-tournament (exhibition) national team matches are less than worthless and past tournament results in this case as well since Japan clearly made a giant leap forward in recent years. Japan is just such an unusual matchup because there isn´t another team like them out there (they are very small and agile, extremely good technically but are also great at working against the ball and pressuring) and they will be absolutely brimming with confidence. They played brilliant today, imo the single best performance by any team so far. Should be very interesting to see at any rate

07-13-2011, 05:19 PM	#136
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Should be an excellent game!

07-16-2011, 07:44 AM	#137
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07-16-2011, 10:25 AM	#138
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	Probably not going to be a popular 'tip' - but I'm favouring Japan to win the final I'm afraid. I think their work rate combined with an intelligent gameplan and technical ability will see off the US team .... regardless should be a great match

07-16-2011, 03:25 PM	#140
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Copa America KO stages are up right now btw, currently Colombia vs Peru (Falcao just missed a penalty, still 0:0 at the 68th minute), next up is Argentina vs Uruguay !

07-16-2011, 04:06 PM	#142
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	shutout?

07-16-2011, 04:09 PM	#144
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Yup - When a team does not score a goal; shutout Last edited by MrBug708 : 07-16-2011 at 04:09 PM.

07-16-2011, 05:42 PM	#145
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Argentina - Uruguay is 1-1 after 26 minutes, it's been a good one so far. If you don't get a channel showing this game, Youtube is streaming it live. http://www.youtube.com/user/CopaAmerica

07-16-2011, 05:43 PM	#146
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Very good one so far...quite enjoyable.

07-16-2011, 08:04 PM	#147
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Uruguay wins on penalties after a 1-1 draw despite being down a man for around 50 minutes, what a game. Muslera was brilliant. And it might be awhile before you see five penalties taken that well by one team. Last edited by Big Fo : 07-16-2011 at 08:04 PM.

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