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Noop · 01-04-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

So many possible punchlines, so little time

LOL. Him and Norman Smiley use to make me laugh all the time back in the days.

Mota · 01-04-2010, 08:43 PM

Wow, they replaced the wrestling rejects of the 90's with the wrestling rejects of the 80's.

Did they basically overhaul the entire TNA roster in one night? Seems like they've brought out at least a dozen new wrestlers already.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mota

Wow, they replaced the wrestling rejects of the 90's with the wrestling rejects of the 80's.

Did they basically overhaul the entire TNA roster in one night? Seems like they've brought out at least a dozen new wrestlers already.

It's basically Hogan's recent overseas tour roster, minus a few guys.

jbergey22 · 01-04-2010, 08:50 PM

This is ridiculous. I am trying to watch the bowl game and I cant DVR both TNA and Raw so I chose RAW.

TNA picks an interesting night to compete.

Of course from the sounds of your comments I wont miss a lot from the new look TNA.

Maple Leafs · 01-04-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveBollea

The thing is, if they're going w/ Bret vs. Vince for WM, then they have to bury the Bret/Shawn tension so it won't overshadow things. Plus, a Bret/Shawn match simply can't happen at this point in time with Bret's current condition.

I think that's it. And they really had two choices: have Shawn go mega-heel, or try to smooth it over like they did. Save the heel heat for Vince, while letting Shawn walk away from the whole thing as the good guy.

(Or, you know, set up a swerve later in the show.)

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

This is ridiculous. I am trying to watch the bowl game and I cant DVR both TNA and Raw so I chose RAW.

TNA picks an interesting night to compete.

Of course from the sounds of your comments I wont miss a lot from the new look TNA.

not if you saw any wcw from the 90's...

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Of course from the sounds of your guys comments I wont miss a lot from the new look TNA.

It's mildly amusing to see which WWE reject shows up next but other than that ... the women's tag match was tolerable (I didn't see the opener) but otherwise it's very Nitroesque.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I think that's it. And they really had two choices: have Shawn go mega-heel, or try to smooth it over like they did. Save the heel heat for Vince, while letting Shawn walk away from the whole thing as the good guy.

(Or, you know, set up a swerve later in the show.)

i just thought it was a pretty unconvincing take at smoothing it over...i dunno. my expectations are probably too high.

or there'll be a nice predictable "ref bump" here and bret will come out as the guest referee to quick-count

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i just thought it was a pretty unconvincing take at smoothing it over...i dunno

Of course then we have to ask ourselves whether it was unconvincing or intentionally unconvincing, just in case anyone thought they were really reconciled.

Maple Leafs · 01-04-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i just thought it was a pretty unconvincing take at smoothing it over...i dunno

Maybe, but if your goal is to keep both guys as faces, is there really anything else you could have done?

Flasch186 · 01-04-2010, 08:54 PM

TNA is really packing in the commercials.

jbergey22 · 01-04-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

not if you saw any wcw from the 90's...

So basically they are trying to buy ratings with stars that are now 10 years older than they were then?

I can see this going only one direction.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

So basically they are trying to buy ratings with stars that are now 10 years older than they were then?

I can see this going only one direction.

haha...yep!

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 08:59 PM

aj styles vs. kurt angle tonight in the main event...obviously clearing out the PPV main event for a hulk hogan title grab...

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

aj styles vs. kurt angle tonight in the main event...obviously clearing out the PPV main event for a hulk hogan title grab...

You don't read the spoilers ahead of time, do you?

(This was revealed earlier in the day)

jbergey22 · 01-04-2010, 09:04 PM

So is the Main Event Mafia still going strong or not? I seen a bit earlier from Nash/Hall/ and XPac talking to Hulk.

I was thinking Nash was in the ME Mafia last time I watched.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

You don't read the spoilers ahead of time, do you?

(This was revealed earlier in the day)

lol nope. i haven't read spoilers (nor watched a minute of wrestling) in...YEARS. Probably sometime right before the Hogan-Goldberg match in WCW. So in that sense this has been a successful night...they got a very casual viewer to tune back in

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

So is the Main Event Mafia still going strong or not? I seen a bit earlier from Nash/Hall/ and XPac talking to Hulk.

I was thinking Nash was in the ME Mafia last time I watched.

Mafia is long gone.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Probably sometime right before the Hogan-Goldberg match in WCW.

Loudest sound I've ever heard in my life was in the Dome that night. And up in the nosebleed section where I was sitting, the floor didn't just vibrate, it shook (to the point I was a little concerned about my immediate safety).

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Loudest sound I've ever heard in my life was in the Dome that night. And up in the nosebleed section where I was sitting, the floor didn't just vibrate, it shook (to the point I was a little concerned about my immediate safety).

hehe. i think that was probably right around when i stopped watching, either right before/after that. definitely right around there.

jbergey22 · 01-04-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Mafia is long gone.

Haha! Ok Thanks. They were the reason I quit watching. They hogged most of the show and Kurt was the only one really entertaining to me.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:16 PM

$40 for a Hulk Hogan TNA trading card??? LMAO

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:17 PM

awww look - Stinger

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

$40 for a Hulk Hogan TNA trading card??? LMAO

But you get TWO of them (one in a protective case, the other is matted & framed)

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey32

Who beating up the TNA wrestlers in the back?

Sid Vicious or Goldberg?

Won't be Goldberg, he's bound for Celebrity Apprentice.

I would assume it's Hall & Waltman, possibly with an eventual reveal of Nash being involved.

Mota · 01-04-2010, 09:23 PM

Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Brutus The Barber Beefcake. The newest tag team in TNA.

That is, speculation of who the assaulters are. It ain't real. I hope.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:24 PM

hehe

hacksaw's dead though, right?

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:26 PM

And now The Nasty Boys ain't on the list either. Imagine that.

Mota · 01-04-2010, 09:26 PM

One of the key lines about the WWE just got said by Cole.

"Some things never change", about DX retaining the tag team titles. So true...

I hate the WWE.

Neon_Chaos · 01-04-2010, 09:30 PM

I hope Vince and Bret in the same ring delivers.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:32 PM

What's the deal with The Rock? Somehow when he gave up wrestling I don't imagine it was for starring roles in movies like "Tooth Fairy."

Is there something more there that just hasn't come out? Steroids or a chronic injury or something? I feel like there almost has to be. I mean the guy went out at the absolute TOP. If it was just a personal choice by him...I have a lot of respect for him for doing that.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:34 PM

My son truly has a devious wrestling mind.

He just asked me whether both shows were live or taped tonight. He was disappointed that they were both live because he thought the perfect finish for Impact would be for either Bret Hart or Chris Jericho to show up.

Considering he's not old enough to remember either guy & their promotion switch as anything other than a history lesson, I'm awfully proud right now

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

My son truly has a devious wrestling mind.

He just asked me whether both shows were live or taped tonight. He was disappointed that they were both live because he thought the perfect finish for Impact would be for either Bret Hart or Chris Jericho to show up.

Considering he's not old enough to remember either guy & their promotion switch as anything other than a history lesson, I'm awfully proud right now

haha...sweet

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

haha...sweet

Or, since it's oldtimers day at TNA ... It's just ... too ... sweeeeeeet

Matthean · 01-04-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

What's the deal with The Rock? Somehow when he gave up wrestling I don't imagine it was for starring roles in movies like "Tooth Fairy."

Is there something more there that just hasn't come out? Steroids or a chronic injury or something? I feel like there almost has to be. I mean the guy went out at the absolute TOP. If it was just a personal choice by him...I have a lot of respect for him for doing that.

He's a 3rd generation wrestler. He knows what kind of toll the business does to you over time and certainly with all of the deaths as of late. He got out while he could so he'll be in vastly better health in his later years. I can't imagine the pay difference, if any at all, would be enough to get him to come back. He has kids. Might as well kick back and kick out family friendly movies instead of the endless touring and punishing of his body he would be doing wrestling. Hogan was doing family based stuff as well, but he fully admits he's addicted to the business and hence he's back.

jbergey22 · 01-04-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

My son truly has a devious wrestling mind.

He just asked me whether both shows were live or taped tonight. He was disappointed that they were both live because he thought the perfect finish for Impact would be for either Bret Hart or Chris Jericho to show up.

Considering he's not old enough to remember either guy & their promotion switch as anything other than a history lesson, I'm awfully proud right now

LOL. He should apply as a booker to one of these two companies. He'd do a better job.

Maple Leafs · 01-04-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

He just asked me whether both shows were live or taped tonight. He was disappointed that they were both live because he thought the perfect finish for Impact would be for either Bret Hart or Chris Jericho to show up.

... but missing their beard.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

He's a 3rd generation wrestler. He knows what kind of toll the business does to you over time and certainly with all of the deaths as of late. He got out while he could so he'll be in vastly better health in his later years. I can't imagine the pay difference, if any at all, would be enough to get him to come back. He has kids. Might as well kick back and kick out family friendly movies instead of the endless touring and punishing of his body he would be doing wrestling. Hogan was doing family based stuff as well, but he fully admits he's addicted to the business and hence he's back.

yeah...i mean i'm sure that's the reason - it was the reason i've always thought, and frankly it's pretty damn intelligent and i have a shit-ton of respect and admiration for the guy for making that choice. it shows a lot of strength of character.

i just saw an ad for "Tooth Fairy" and was like "haha - damn...it's The Rock" and it got my cynical-side wondering.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:49 PM

Smart crowd for the taping tonight in Orlando, chanting "Who Needs Bret" during the Angle-Styles match.

jbergey22 · 01-04-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

yeah...i mean i'm sure that's the reason - it was the reason i've always thought, and frankly it's pretty damn intelligent and i have a shit-ton of respect and admiration for the guy for making that choice. it shows a lot of strength of character.

i just saw an ad for "Tooth Fairy" and was like "haha - damn...it's The Rock" and it got my cynical-side wondering.

Vince tried to get Rock to come back and be the guest host next week and was refused. He has pretty much tried to stay as far away from the business as possible which I understand if his acting career had taken off but he has pretty much been in a bunch of low profile movies since he left.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Vince tried to get Rock to come back and be the guest host next week and was refused. He has pretty much tried to stay as far away from the business as possible which I understand if his acting career had taken off but he has pretty much been in a bunch of low profile movies since he left.

I dunno, the horrible looking Fairy will put him over the $1B US gross mark in 9 years, and get him close to $2B global.
http://www.the-numbers.com/people/TROCK.php

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Vince tried to get Rock to come back and be the guest host next week and was refused. He has pretty much tried to stay as far away from the business as possible which I understand if his acting career had taken off but he has pretty much been in a bunch of low profile movies since he left.

it's a shame too...Rock would be great as a guest host...he was ALWAYS amazing on the stick. People's Champ/Corporate Champ/Nation/Insulting Rock, there was never a persona he brought out that didn't just...work. Shit, I'll go so far as to say that aside from some of the classic-Flair stuff I have on VHS from the 80's that Rock was the best I've ever seen on the stick.

DaddyTorgo · 01-04-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I dunno, the horrible looking Fairy will put him over the $1B US gross mark in 9 years, and get him close to $2B global.
http://www.the-numbers.com/people/TROCK.php

yeah - i'm sure he's doing quite alright with all those movies.

Neon_Chaos · 01-04-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Vince tried to get Rock to come back and be the guest host next week and was refused. He has pretty much tried to stay as far away from the business as possible which I understand if his acting career had taken off but he has pretty much been in a bunch of low profile movies since he left.

I'm pretty sure Rock's been well taken care of by Disney.

The Gameplan grossed $140M worldwide, and Race To Witch Mountain grossed $106M worldwide.

Scarecrow · 01-04-2010, 10:00 PM

Wonderful old-school match on TNA tonight - Styles defeats Angle in a 30 minute spotfest.

For the first time in a long time, I didn't know who would win nor how they would win.

Scarecrow · 01-04-2010, 10:04 PM

dola

was that Val Venus????

jbergey22 · 01-04-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I dunno, the horrible looking Fairy will put him over the $1B US gross mark in 9 years, and get him close to $2B global.
http://www.the-numbers.com/people/TROCK.php

Didnt even realize he had been doing that well. His worldwide numbers arent much worse than Will Ferrell surprisingly. Interesting link.

Noop · 01-04-2010, 10:08 PM

Vince = Greatest Heel ever.

Neon_Chaos · 01-04-2010, 10:08 PM

And I thought it was over...

Neon_Chaos · 01-04-2010, 10:11 PM

The WWE did what they were supposed to do with Bret tonight.

I almost thought this was going to only be a one-off thing.

Seems like his rumored contract that runs through WrestleMania is indeed true.

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Mota College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001	Wow, they replaced the wrestling rejects of the 90's with the wrestling rejects of the 80's. Did they basically overhaul the entire TNA roster in one night? Seems like they've brought out at least a dozen new wrestlers already.

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jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	So is the Main Event Mafia still going strong or not? I seen a bit earlier from Nash/Hall/ and XPac talking to Hulk. I was thinking Nash was in the ME Mafia last time I watched.

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Mota College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001	Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Brutus The Barber Beefcake. The newest tag team in TNA. That is, speculation of who the assaulters are. It ain't real. I hope.

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	What's the deal with The Rock? Somehow when he gave up wrestling I don't imagine it was for starring roles in movies like "Tooth Fairy." Is there something more there that just hasn't come out? Steroids or a chronic injury or something? I feel like there almost has to be. I mean the guy went out at the absolute TOP. If it was just a personal choice by him...I have a lot of respect for him for doing that. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 01-04-2010 at 09:32 PM.

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