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Old 07-10-2012, 12:54 AM   #1
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Question on a combines from a newby

Hi mates,
i have a question about the combines:

Do the value refer to actual skill or to potential skill?

Exemple: 2 rookies have the same value in the same combine (let's say 9-00 in broad jump for a qb) but one is developed for a 15% and the other for a 60%.
So my doubt is: will they be in the same range as medium pass when they start they pro career (but the second will be better when fully developed)? Or they will be in the same range as a potential (with the first with higher value at the start)?

I hope you can understand my question (and i apologiza if my english is not so good, but i'm italian).

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Old 07-10-2012, 04:17 AM   #2
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Potential skill.

If it helps to think about it this way, the game looks at a given skill level (or set of skill levels) and generates the combine score. Not the other way around. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

So, a 9-00 doesn't correspond to a particularly narrow range of medium pass skills. For example, say it's possible for a 20-rated bar to be translated into a 9-00 combine. But it might also possible for a 100-rated bar to result in a 9-00 as well.

Also there's no real guarantee that Guy #1 will have a better or worse starting bar than Guy #2. Although I think a QB who is 60% developed is quite rare.
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:17 AM   #3
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[quote]So, a 9-00 doesn't correspond to a particularly narrow range of medium pass skills. For example, say it's possible for a 20-rated bar to be translated into a 9-00 combine. But it might also possible for a 100-rated bar to result in a 9-00 as well.[quote]


So a qb with 9-00 in bj combine could have 20 or 100 in mediumpass? I've understood?
And what do the combine means? Are them random?

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Old 07-10-2012, 06:34 AM   #4
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No, they're not random, they're generated based on the bars. The point is that a single combine number can't tell you definitively very much. Not unless the combine is exceptional in either direction (very very great, or very very awful).

The right way to think about it, I think, is:

a 20 bar could have a 8'0-9'2 score
a 30 bar could have a 8'3-9'5 score
a 50 bar could have a 8'3-10'0 score
a 80 bar could have a 8'7-10'5 score
a 100 bar could have a 9'0-10'9 score (I wouldn't know what distribution. Normal, perhaps? Maybe it is randomly distributed between 9'0 and 10'9. No idea.)

Of course I made up those numbers on the spot, so don't take them literally!

The main idea is that not to think "QB #1 has a 9-00 broad jump. QB #2 has a 9-03 broad jump. QB #2 probably has a better medium passing bar than QB #1." Instead, you should think, "Both of those broad jumps are middle of the pack and neither, alone, tells me much. Let's look at what other scores/bars/clues this QB has."
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