Navy jet crashes into apartment complex

illinifan999 · 04-06-2012, 12:51 PM

hxxp://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/va_beach/military-plane-crashes-in-virginia-beach

Pilots were able to eject safely, and apparently dumped a ton of fuel before they jumped. No word on casualties on the ground yet. The apartment complex was located about half a mile away from a middle school which luckily didn't have school today.

whomario · 04-06-2012, 01:07 PM

oh fuck, that looks terrible ...

JeeberD · 04-06-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

The apartment complex was located about half a mile away from a middle school which luckily didn't have school today.

Luckily? How many kids who might have been safely at school were instead at home in their apartment?

Poli · 04-06-2012, 01:18 PM

Time to hit the text messaging to make sure my friends are ok.

JediKooter · 04-06-2012, 01:19 PM

I read that the apartment complex may be a senior living complex. So there's the potential that a lot of people were at home at the time unfortunately.

stevew · 04-06-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Luckily? How many kids who might have been safely at school were instead at home in their apartment?

My thoughts, too. I think that's a housing project, perhaps, but apartment complexes in general would have a high concentration of kids.

stevew · 04-06-2012, 01:23 PM

I'll wait for details and deaths, but I'm not sure ejecting is the move here.

illinifan999 · 04-06-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Luckily? How many kids who might have been safely at school were instead at home in their apartment?

That's true. I worded that wrong. What I meant was it was lucky there was no school AND that that it didn't hit the school.

This is usually the area I work, and I've never been to these apartments for a call so I can't say much about the residents.

illinifan999 · 04-06-2012, 01:28 PM

CNN article- Navy jet crashes into apartments in Virginia - CNN.com

Ksyrup · 04-06-2012, 01:30 PM

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Another witness, Zack Zapatero, said the plane crashed into a building occupied by senior citizens. He took photos of the scene.

"There's these large fire balls coming up," Zapatero said. "I was told there was a bunch of senior citizens that live in that building, which worries me a lot.

Hey look - a statement of fact supported by hearsay! Let's go to press!

Poli · 04-06-2012, 01:32 PM

Three phone calls later I still haven't heard from anyone.

Chief Rum · 04-06-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Hey look - a statement of fact supported by hearsay! Let's go to press!

While it is definitely an evidential leap the reporter should not have made, in all fairness, he did frame it as a "he said".

gstelmack · 04-06-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'll wait for details and deaths, but I'm not sure ejecting is the move here.

FWIW, all reports so far are the seats are right at the crash sight, implying they ejected at the last possible moment. They stayed with it long enough to dump fuel and avoid an even worse fireball as well.

DanGarion · 04-06-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'll wait for details and deaths, but I'm not sure ejecting is the move here.

Considering one of the officers (I won't say pilot because I don't know which one it was) was still in his seat they must have ejected at the last possible moment to try and minimize losses.

BYU 14 · 04-06-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

FWIW, all reports so far are the seats are right at the crash sight, implying they ejected at the last possible moment. They stayed with it long enough to dump fuel and avoid an even worse fireball as well.

Also saw this, looks like they took every step possible to minimize civilian casualties, so i think they deserve props at this point.

One of the aviators had to actually be cut down from the wreckage of the building by residents.

BYU 14 · 04-06-2012, 05:09 PM

Dola, just talked to my son who is stationed in Va now, says early word he is getting is that things would have been much worse if not for the actions of the pilot.

jeff061 · 04-06-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'll wait for details and deaths, but I'm not sure ejecting is the move here.

What's the alternative? You really would hold someone accountable for doing everything they can short of killing themselves?

molson · 04-06-2012, 05:17 PM

I'm usually amazed how relatively low the casualties are in plane/building collisions (with one notable exception, of course), hopefully that's the case here too.....you'd think a plane would take out a whole city block but a lot of times it seems like the damage is pretty localized.

JediKooter · 04-06-2012, 05:29 PM

I think where it crashed, isn't that far from the ocean and I'm sure if they could have done it, they would have ditched it in the ocean.

illinifan999 · 04-06-2012, 06:22 PM

Interactive | Close-up view of crash scene from overhead | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Able to get a little better view of the wreckage/damage.

mauchow · 04-06-2012, 06:39 PM

My bro in-law is a jet pilot for the navy at VB, he did know one of the pilots. I don't have much info though as I've been at work today.

CrimsonFox · 04-06-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Hey look - a statement of fact supported by hearsay! Let's go to press!

Nice

Poli · 04-06-2012, 11:15 PM

The people I still talk to back there are safe. I used to work at that air station.

illinifan999 · 04-06-2012, 11:46 PM

Three people being reported as unaccounted for, all from the same building. No confirmed fatalities. Doesn't look good with 3 people missing from the same building, but absolutely incredible that the the number isn't higher.

Johninja · 04-07-2012, 12:40 AM

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/g...0907841?page=1

Some more images, Will be a miracle if nobody got hurt. Noobs.

illinifan999 · 04-07-2012, 10:08 AM

Looking like no deaths. The 3 people reported as unaccounted for was inaccurate; they had moved out before this. All listed tenants have been accounted for. Incredible.

Dutch · 04-07-2012, 10:11 AM

Glad to hear it...and now, more than ever, I can appreciate the quick work to dump the fuel before impact.

MJ4H · 04-07-2012, 10:12 AM

Terrific news.

BYU 14 · 04-07-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Glad to hear it...and now, more than ever, I can appreciate the quick work to dump the fuel before impact.

+1 Great job to avert a potential catastrophy by the Aviators.

OldGiants · 04-07-2012, 10:27 AM

Saw this on the front page of the Richmond paper this morning. I reminded my wife we were just down Birdneck Road at the Virginia Aquarium (on General Boothe Blvd) exactly two weeks ago on her class trip (I was a chaperon for a bunch of fifth grade boys).

An exploding jet certainly would have sent the kids into a tizzy. All we had was one of the four buses break down in the parking lot--pretty much standard for one of these trips.

04-06-2012, 01:07 PM	#2
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04-06-2012, 01:19 PM	#5
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	I read that the apartment complex may be a senior living complex. So there's the potential that a lot of people were at home at the time unfortunately. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

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04-06-2012, 01:23 PM	#7
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'll wait for details and deaths, but I'm not sure ejecting is the move here.

04-06-2012, 05:09 PM	#16
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Dola, just talked to my son who is stationed in Va now, says early word he is getting is that things would have been much worse if not for the actions of the pilot.

04-06-2012, 05:17 PM	#18
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I'm usually amazed how relatively low the casualties are in plane/building collisions (with one notable exception, of course), hopefully that's the case here too.....you'd think a plane would take out a whole city block but a lot of times it seems like the damage is pretty localized. Last edited by molson : 04-06-2012 at 05:18 PM.

04-06-2012, 05:29 PM	#19
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	I think where it crashed, isn't that far from the ocean and I'm sure if they could have done it, they would have ditched it in the ocean. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

04-06-2012, 06:22 PM	#20
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Interactive \| Close-up view of crash scene from overhead \| HamptonRoads.com \| PilotOnline.com Able to get a little better view of the wreckage/damage. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

04-06-2012, 06:39 PM	#21
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	My bro in-law is a jet pilot for the navy at VB, he did know one of the pilots. I don't have much info though as I've been at work today.

04-06-2012, 11:15 PM	#23
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	The people I still talk to back there are safe. I used to work at that air station. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-06-2012, 11:46 PM	#24
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Three people being reported as unaccounted for, all from the same building. No confirmed fatalities. Doesn't look good with 3 people missing from the same building, but absolutely incredible that the the number isn't higher. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

04-07-2012, 12:40 AM	#25
Johninja n00b Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia	http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/g...0907841?page=1 Some more images, Will be a miracle if nobody got hurt. Noobs.

04-07-2012, 10:08 AM	#26
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Looking like no deaths. The 3 people reported as unaccounted for was inaccurate; they had moved out before this. All listed tenants have been accounted for. Incredible. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

04-07-2012, 10:11 AM	#27
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Glad to hear it...and now, more than ever, I can appreciate the quick work to dump the fuel before impact.

04-07-2012, 10:12 AM	#28
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Terrific news.

04-07-2012, 10:27 AM	#30
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	Saw this on the front page of the Richmond paper this morning. I reminded my wife we were just down Birdneck Road at the Virginia Aquarium (on General Boothe Blvd) exactly two weeks ago on her class trip (I was a chaperon for a bunch of fifth grade boys). An exploding jet certainly would have sent the kids into a tizzy. All we had was one of the four buses break down in the parking lot--pretty much standard for one of these trips. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

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