The official tournament time thread - Page 13

mauchow · 03-20-2008, 10:19 PM

Ah, much better for Wisconsin. Please let me get a little more comfy yet.. Thanks.

Groundhog · 03-20-2008, 10:22 PM

Enjoyed the Xavier-Georgia game, but the Baylor-Purdue game was a bust. Luckily they switched to the Kentucky-Marquette game which was a lot better.

I'm 9/12 so far in my bracket, with Baylor, Temple, and Kent St. letting me down. Thankfully I didn't have any of those three going beyond the next round.

mauchow · 03-20-2008, 10:27 PM

Didn't even realize it but my bracket is perfect so far. Not sure I like my championship after today. I have Stanford, NC, Wisconsin, Duke in the Final Four with NC beating Duke in the Championship. could still work out for me, but whatever.

I don't want that bracket to be true, I want the Badgers all the way!!1

Izulde · 03-20-2008, 10:43 PM

Thus far in my brackets:

Bracket #1: 10/12 (USC and Temple the only losses)
Bracket #2: 8/12 (USC - Sweet 16, Kent State - Sweet 16, Temple, Kentucky the losses... I let my dog pick this bracket)
Bracket #3: 8/12 (USC - Elite 8 the big loss here, Kent State, Kentucky, Temple the other losses)
Bracket #4: 10/12 (USC and Kent State the only losses)

Facebook Bracket: 9/12 (Kent State - Sweet 16 only major loss, Temple and USC the other losses)

Izulde · 03-20-2008, 10:53 PM

Ugh. Add a lost Sweet 16 team to all brackets. Thanks a lot, George Mason.

mauchow · 03-20-2008, 10:56 PM

Got my first loss in a bracket in Arizona. Bummer. Had 'em losing to Duke at least.

Karlifornia · 03-20-2008, 10:57 PM

Damn you, Arizona. I had them in the Sweet 16, upsetting Duke. They're always tantalizing with their star players, but the lack of depth is a killer.

Arles · 03-20-2008, 10:58 PM

Wow, West Virginia was insane on shooting tonight. They were 11-15 on 3s with nearly all highly contested. No team in the nation can compete with that. Oh, and Kevin O'Neil makes Mike D'Antoni look like a coach with a deep bench. The entire Arizona bench played 11 minutes. Can't wait for Lute to be back next season.

mauchow · 03-20-2008, 10:59 PM

Not a pretty win for Wisconsin but we get it done against CSF who's point guard went absolutely insane from all over the place it seemed. Good game though, anyhow. Krabbenhoft was my player of the game as he quietly scored and rebounded and was pretty much the only guy that felt like playing D today. Great game, Krab-Man! Not much else to compliment on. Butch looked pretty poor, Flowers got beat all day, Landry looked BAD on offense, Hughes was pretty much his same self.

Moving on to Kansas State now. Landry I'm sure will be guarding, or I should say, attempting to guard Beasley. Should be a fun one. I will be watching this one from work. Yuck. Ah, well though.

MrBug708 · 03-20-2008, 11:03 PM

Nothing to glean from this UCLA game. Worst team to probably miss the play-in game

Chief Rum · 03-20-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Not a pretty win for Wisconsin but we get it done against CSF who's point guard went absolutely insane from all over the place it seemed. Good game though, anyhow. Krabbenhoft was my player of the game as he quietly scored and rebounded and was pretty much the only guy that felt like playing D today. Great game, Krab-Man! Not much else to compliment on. Butch looked pretty poor, Flowers got beat all day, Landry looked BAD on offense, Hughes was pretty much his same self.

Moving on to Kansas State now. Landry I'm sure will be guarding, or I should say, attempting to guard Beasley. Should be a fun one. I will be watching this one from work. Yuck. Ah, well though.

Actually, as I was pointing out to Lathum earlier, CSF is a solid, veteran team and that PG who went insane was Wazzu's leading scorer as a freshman two years ago. This is a solid win for Wisky, even if CSF didn't have a starter taller than 6'5".

I hope Akognon comes back. He can probably leave for a pro career on this game alone.

mauchow · 03-20-2008, 11:09 PM

Why would he leave Wazzu if he was a leading scorer? That's shocking.

timmynausea · 03-20-2008, 11:13 PM

Nice win for WVU, especially with double teams and fouls taking Alexander out of the game for the most part. Nice to see Al Ruoff hit a ton of 3s. He's a great shooter that tore up the non-conference schedule but really struggled to get shots off against conference opponents and completely disappeared for games at a time. Hopefully with defenses really focusing on Alexander now, he'll be able to keep it going against Duke.

Chief Rum · 03-20-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Why would he leave Wazzu if he was a leading scorer? That's shocking.

He didn't like the slowdown offense. He wanted to play up tempo. I believe when he was recruited, Bennett Sr. had just taken over at Wazzu. He stuck with them because it was Pac 10, but then once he got there, he saw the slow down offense as more negative than the positive of playing in the Pac 10. Plus, he's from SoCal, and probably was a little homesick.

Not sure he would have left if he knew what Wazzu would become when Bennett Jr. came over, but Titans fans sure are happy.

Swaggs · 03-20-2008, 11:19 PM

WVU has definitely exceeded my expectations for this season already. I think we match up pretty well against Duke, since they do not have a dominating big man.

Cork · 03-20-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Why would he leave Wazzu if he was a leading scorer? That's shocking.

Because Dick Bennett teams hate to score and this guy felt he could showcase his pro potential better at CSF where apparently they do not have an aversion to actually scoring.

-Cork

MrBug708 · 03-20-2008, 11:21 PM

Akongon had no desire to play in that offense and frankly, didn't see WSU as being as good as they were going to be

Chief Rum · 03-20-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cork

Because Dick Bennett teams hate to score and this guy felt he could showcase his pro potential better at CSF where apparently they do not have an aversion to actually scoring.

-Cork

It's true, they don't. They came in as the third highest scoring team in the tourney field (so kudos to top defense Wisconsin on that one, too).

mauchow · 03-20-2008, 11:37 PM

Pomeroy a perfect 16-0 today. Goodness.

wade moore · 03-21-2008, 06:08 AM

The George Mason guards are better than what they showed tonight, but they're not nearly as good as the trio they had in 2006 - so I'm not surprised they lost. I had them going to the sweet 16 on homerism, but I knew it would take some very lucky breaks.

It's unfortunate that such a great game by Will Thomas went to waste. In the end this was a very poor matchup for GMU because of the ND big man.

Butter · 03-21-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Pomeroy a perfect 16-0 today. Goodness.

Shouldn't have been too hard, honestly. Only 2 upsets, and one was an 8-9 game, so it was an upset in seed only.

wade moore · 03-21-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Shouldn't have been too hard, honestly. Only 2 upsets, and one was an 8-9 game, so it was an upset in seed only.

And the other was Michael Beasley.

Yeah - anyone who went really safe is lookin' good right now in their brackets.

sterlingice · 03-21-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Nothing to glean from this UCLA game. Worst team to probably miss the play-in game

Still have to give them some credit. You just shouldn't be able to hold teams below 30, even if they are scrubby.

SI

molson · 03-21-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Shouldn't have been too hard, honestly. Only 2 upsets, and one was an 8-9 game, so it was an upset in seed only.

That's what I hate about NCAA tournament pools. The winners are almost always super-conservative brackets. If you pick an upset, odds are you'll miss that one, and also some other upset that you didn't pick. If you go with all the favorites, you'll do well.

albionmoonlight · 03-21-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

That's what I hate about NCAA tournament pools. The winners are almost always super-conservative brackets. If you pick an upset, odds are you'll miss that one, and also some other upset that you didn't pick. If you go with all the favorites, you'll do well.

The best scoring system I have seen for pools is based on the Fibonacci sequence. Most pools, which just double the points per game for each round, way overweight the Final Four and Championship Game picks. The first round really ends up just being a tie-breaker.

korme · 03-21-2008, 11:28 AM

Just got switched to Davidson/Zaga, kinda pissed because American was stomping on the Volunteers (well, 9-5)

mauchow · 03-21-2008, 11:31 AM

You can still watch the game Shorty, duh.

Jas_lov · 03-21-2008, 11:32 AM

I've got Iowa's own, the Drake Bulldogs, vs. Western Kentucky. Go Drake!

Jas_lov · 03-21-2008, 11:42 AM

The threes are falling for the Bulldogs! I love the Drake!

korme · 03-21-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

You can still watch the game Shorty, duh.

Not tryin to watch any games online

Cringer · 03-21-2008, 12:01 PM

13-2 run for Gonzaga, very nice. I have only been able to see 2 or 3 Gonzaga tourney games over all these years, nice to finally watch my hometown team.

Cringer · 03-21-2008, 12:02 PM

dola-so much for that run, they have given it all back almost.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-21-2008, 12:09 PM

Tennessee leads American 29-22 at the half.
Gonzaga up 37-32 with 2 mins left in the half.

st.cronin · 03-21-2008, 12:15 PM

I have Tennessee winning the whole thing in my brackets.

Jas_lov · 03-21-2008, 12:19 PM

Drake is getting beat at their own game. Western Kentucky shooting 63% including 6-13 from the three point line. I hate the Drake.

Cringer · 03-21-2008, 12:19 PM

Western Kentucky taking a nice little lead here at the end of the first half. up by 9 with 3 seconds left.

wade moore · 03-21-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Tennessee leads American 29-22 at the half.
Gonzaga up 37-32 with 2 mins left in the half.

Jon - I've been busy with work stuff so I haven't been "following" (and I don't have video anyways) - what's up with the Vols? Looks like J. and T. Smith are the only offense and Chism maybe got in foul trouble?

wade moore · 03-21-2008, 12:34 PM

Great - W. Kentucky is one of the few mid-major over mid-major upsets I didn't pick.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-21-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Jon - I've been busy with work stuff so I haven't been "following" (and I don't have video anyways) - what's up with the Vols? Looks like J. and T. Smith are the only offense and Chism maybe got in foul trouble?

Tied at 40 now with 11:05 to play.

Sorry for the lack of response, been away from the comp much of the day.
Truthfully, it looks like they were planning to throw their jerseys on the floor & beat 'em easily. Pearl has pretty much looked like he was ready to either have a stroke or choke a bitch from the opening couple of minutes. An absolutely lackluster performance across the board so far, completely mentally unprepared to play. Been outrebounded 28-14, 13-2 on the offensive glass.

re:Chism -- wasn't just the fouls, he was jacking up shots & such, got yanked for Crews very quickly.
Very uncharacteristically looked as out of whack as the rest of the team ... although he just hit a three to push the lead to 45-40 with 10 minutes left.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I've got Iowa's own, the Drake Bulldogs, vs. Western Kentucky. Go Drake!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The threes are falling for the Bulldogs! I love the Drake!

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Drake is getting beat at their own game. Western Kentucky shooting 63% including 6-13 from the three point line. I hate the Drake.

Always nice to see a true fan.

Jas_lov · 03-21-2008, 12:50 PM

CBS has screwed me again. I can't even watch the Drake game on my TV as something went wrong with the feed. American only down by 2!

JonInMiddleGA · 03-21-2008, 12:54 PM

48-40 as UT goes on an 8-0 run with a pair of threes. 8:46 to play.

Jas_lov · 03-21-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Always nice to see a true fan.

I was never a true fan of Drake and never said I was. They're representing Iowa, they're sort of an underdog in the tourney, and I picked them to go to the Sweet 16 so of course I'd like to see them win. But I'm really an Iowa Hawkeyes fan. Western Kentucky still isn't missing any shots. 4 point play. Good God.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-21-2008, 01:00 PM

Tennessee up 50-43 with 7:01 left. American ball after a charging foul on Prince.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-21-2008, 01:05 PM

57-51 UT with 4 minutes left after another Chism three.

wade moore · 03-21-2008, 01:06 PM

Thanks for the update Jon.

I've discovered Sportsline's "GameCenter" it's actually pretty darned good.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-21-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Thanks for the update Jon.

I've discovered Sportsline's "GameCenter" it's actually pretty darned good.

Pearl finally seemed to have gotten it through their thick heads that some defense might be a good idea. Problem is that American is shooting threes better than the Vols and they definitely know they're right in this thing.

FT's cut it to 57-53 with 3:30 left.

Cringer · 03-21-2008, 01:09 PM

Gonzaga is blowing it. 7 minutes left, Davidson is up by 1 point. Bulldogs are not looking real good now....

Cringer · 03-21-2008, 01:14 PM

Gonzaga is not doing well with the FTs.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-21-2008, 01:16 PM

UT up by 10 & at the line with 1:38 left.

03-20-2008, 10:22 PM	#602
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Enjoyed the Xavier-Georgia game, but the Baylor-Purdue game was a bust. Luckily they switched to the Kentucky-Marquette game which was a lot better. I'm 9/12 so far in my bracket, with Baylor, Temple, and Kent St. letting me down. Thankfully I didn't have any of those three going beyond the next round. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

03-20-2008, 10:27 PM	#603
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Didn't even realize it but my bracket is perfect so far. Not sure I like my championship after today. I have Stanford, NC, Wisconsin, Duke in the Final Four with NC beating Duke in the Championship. could still work out for me, but whatever. I don't want that bracket to be true, I want the Badgers all the way!!1 Last edited by mauchow : 03-20-2008 at 10:28 PM.

03-20-2008, 10:43 PM	#604
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Thus far in my brackets: Bracket #1: 10/12 (USC and Temple the only losses) Bracket #2: 8/12 (USC - Sweet 16, Kent State - Sweet 16, Temple, Kentucky the losses... I let my dog pick this bracket) Bracket #3: 8/12 (USC - Elite 8 the big loss here, Kent State, Kentucky, Temple the other losses) Bracket #4: 10/12 (USC and Kent State the only losses) Facebook Bracket: 9/12 (Kent State - Sweet 16 only major loss, Temple and USC the other losses) __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

03-20-2008, 10:53 PM	#605
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Ugh. Add a lost Sweet 16 team to all brackets. Thanks a lot, George Mason. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

03-20-2008, 10:56 PM	#606
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Got my first loss in a bracket in Arizona. Bummer. Had 'em losing to Duke at least. Last edited by mauchow : 03-20-2008 at 10:56 PM.

03-20-2008, 10:19 PM	#601
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Ah, much better for Wisconsin. Please let me get a little more comfy yet.. Thanks.

03-20-2008, 10:57 PM	#607
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Damn you, Arizona. I had them in the Sweet 16, upsetting Duke. They're always tantalizing with their star players, but the lack of depth is a killer. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-20-2008, 10:58 PM	#608
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Wow, West Virginia was insane on shooting tonight. They were 11-15 on 3s with nearly all highly contested. No team in the nation can compete with that. Oh, and Kevin O'Neil makes Mike D'Antoni look like a coach with a deep bench. The entire Arizona bench played 11 minutes. Can't wait for Lute to be back next season. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com Last edited by Arles : 03-20-2008 at 10:59 PM.

03-20-2008, 10:59 PM	#609
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Not a pretty win for Wisconsin but we get it done against CSF who's point guard went absolutely insane from all over the place it seemed. Good game though, anyhow. Krabbenhoft was my player of the game as he quietly scored and rebounded and was pretty much the only guy that felt like playing D today. Great game, Krab-Man! Not much else to compliment on. Butch looked pretty poor, Flowers got beat all day, Landry looked BAD on offense, Hughes was pretty much his same self. Moving on to Kansas State now. Landry I'm sure will be guarding, or I should say, attempting to guard Beasley. Should be a fun one. I will be watching this one from work. Yuck. Ah, well though.

03-20-2008, 11:03 PM	#610
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Nothing to glean from this UCLA game. Worst team to probably miss the play-in game

03-20-2008, 11:09 PM	#612
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Why would he leave Wazzu if he was a leading scorer? That's shocking.

03-20-2008, 11:13 PM	#613
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Nice win for WVU, especially with double teams and fouls taking Alexander out of the game for the most part. Nice to see Al Ruoff hit a ton of 3s. He's a great shooter that tore up the non-conference schedule but really struggled to get shots off against conference opponents and completely disappeared for games at a time. Hopefully with defenses really focusing on Alexander now, he'll be able to keep it going against Duke.

03-20-2008, 11:19 PM	#615
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	WVU has definitely exceeded my expectations for this season already. I think we match up pretty well against Duke, since they do not have a dominating big man. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-20-2008, 11:21 PM	#617
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Akongon had no desire to play in that offense and frankly, didn't see WSU as being as good as they were going to be

03-20-2008, 11:37 PM	#619
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Pomeroy a perfect 16-0 today. Goodness.

03-21-2008, 11:28 AM	#626
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Just got switched to Davidson/Zaga, kinda pissed because American was stomping on the Volunteers (well, 9-5) Last edited by korme : 03-21-2008 at 11:28 AM.

03-21-2008, 11:31 AM	#627
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	You can still watch the game Shorty, duh. Last edited by mauchow : 03-21-2008 at 11:31 AM.

03-21-2008, 11:32 AM	#628
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I've got Iowa's own, the Drake Bulldogs, vs. Western Kentucky. Go Drake!

03-21-2008, 11:42 AM	#629
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The threes are falling for the Bulldogs! I love the Drake!

03-21-2008, 12:01 PM	#631
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	13-2 run for Gonzaga, very nice. I have only been able to see 2 or 3 Gonzaga tourney games over all these years, nice to finally watch my hometown team. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

03-21-2008, 12:02 PM	#632
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	dola-so much for that run, they have given it all back almost. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

03-21-2008, 12:09 PM	#633
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Tennessee leads American 29-22 at the half. Gonzaga up 37-32 with 2 mins left in the half. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-21-2008, 12:15 PM	#634
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I have Tennessee winning the whole thing in my brackets. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-21-2008, 12:19 PM	#635
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Drake is getting beat at their own game. Western Kentucky shooting 63% including 6-13 from the three point line. I hate the Drake.

03-21-2008, 12:19 PM	#636
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Western Kentucky taking a nice little lead here at the end of the first half. up by 9 with 3 seconds left. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

03-21-2008, 12:50 PM	#641
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	CBS has screwed me again. I can't even watch the Drake game on my TV as something went wrong with the feed. American only down by 2!

03-21-2008, 12:54 PM	#642
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	48-40 as UT goes on an 8-0 run with a pair of threes. 8:46 to play. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-21-2008, 01:00 PM	#644
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Tennessee up 50-43 with 7:01 left. American ball after a charging foul on Prince. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-21-2008, 01:05 PM	#645
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	57-51 UT with 4 minutes left after another Chism three. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-21-2008, 01:09 PM	#648
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Gonzaga is blowing it. 7 minutes left, Davidson is up by 1 point. Bulldogs are not looking real good now.... __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

03-21-2008, 01:14 PM	#649
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Gonzaga is not doing well with the FTs. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

03-21-2008, 01:16 PM	#650
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	UT up by 10 & at the line with 1:38 left. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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