what better child stuck in well or child stuck on balloon? - Page 6

DanGarion · 10-15-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

You a democrat, boy?

Nope, I'm a Libertarian.

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Everyone here agrees that rape is bad (I hope). But that's not the issue, it's whether society treats victims differently. So if you heard about a 40 year old woman being raped, and then a 5 year old girl being raped, you would have the same exact reaction to each?

How about if you were on a sinking ship? Are you against the "Women and Children First" rule?

I look at it this way, if my child or my wife gets raped I want the fucker that does it to rot in jail for the maximum penalty, but I don't think that said penalty should be less just because it was my wife instead of my kid.

As for women and children first, I think it's a much different situation and is like comparing apples to oranges.

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Well, we have hate crime laws and affirmative action in our society. We have age of consent laws in our society. We have specific laws against child abuse, and some states even have elder abuse laws.

Right but all those laws should be consolidated into one, if you rape someone you rot in jail for X amount of years, a rape is a rape regardless who it is against. Just like a hate crime, why are the rules changed if it comes out that it was based on raced, etc, you should be doing the max time regardless of the reason. I guess I just look at the world differently.

Passacaglia · 10-15-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Dola. And Falco is dead. This makes me sad.

No, didn't you hear? Falco wasn't in the balloo after all.

JediKooter · 10-15-2009, 06:25 PM

I wish I had the parents phone number, I'd call them and blast "Man in the Box" by Alice in Chains.

Butter · 10-15-2009, 06:25 PM

Oh good, another one of THESE fuckin' threads.

cartman · 10-15-2009, 06:26 PM

Here's a rendition of what it might have looked like if the kid was in the balloon:

Karlifornia · 10-15-2009, 06:28 PM

Jonah Falcon thinks this kid is a gigantic dick.

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-15-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Here's a rendition of what it might have looked like if the kid was in the balloon:

BEAUTIFUL!

stevew · 10-15-2009, 06:31 PM

The people of Colorado should burn down city hall if they don't make these jackasses pay for all the wasted labor on this. And CPS should be seizing the kids.

Subby · 10-15-2009, 06:31 PM

I haven't seen this much box in a thread since the Pamela Anderson Hot or Not.

Karlifornia · 10-15-2009, 06:34 PM

If the parents knowingly perpetuated the idea that the kid was in/around/hanging from the balloon, then they should be tied to balloons and let go.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-15-2009, 06:35 PM

I wonder if Subby's cunt detector ever went off during all this.

RomaGoth · 10-15-2009, 06:36 PM

Make of this what you will. (Disclaimer: be careful if at work, contains curse words)

YouTube - Saturday Night Live - Dick In A Box

RomaGoth · 10-15-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I wonder if Subby's cunt detector ever went off during all this.

Winner

RainMaker · 10-15-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

I look at it this way, if my child or my wife gets raped I want the fucker that does it to rot in jail for the maximum penalty, but I don't think that said penalty should be less just because it was my wife instead of my kid.

As for women and children first, I think it's a much different situation and is like comparing apples to oranges.

This was about why we view people differently, not necessarily about if someone should be given a bigger penalty for a crime. You stated that this should be no more tragic if it was a 5 year old boy or a 70 year old man. You seemed to think that viewing those two deaths differently is bad.

I'm just saying it's natural to view these events differently. When I hear about a 90 year old man dying from cancer, it's sad. But I find it sadder when I hear that a 7 year old boy died from it. Age, innocence, and other factors will always play a role in our level of sympathy. If there are two people drowning, one being a child and one being an adult, I go to the child first.

DanGarion · 10-15-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

This was about why we view people differently, not necessarily about if someone should be given a bigger penalty for a crime. You stated that this should be no more tragic if it was a 5 year old boy or a 70 year old man. You seemed to think that viewing those two deaths differently is bad.

I'm just saying it's natural to view these events differently. When I hear about a 90 year old man dying from cancer, it's sad. But I find it sadder when I hear that a 7 year old boy died from it. Age, innocence, and other factors will always play a role in our level of sympathy. If there are two people drowning, one being a child and one being an adult, I go to the child first.

Once again comparing apples to oranges. Acts of violence and crimes towards others are different then general views of people dying.

RainMaker · 10-15-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Once again comparing apples to oranges. Acts of violence and crimes towards others are different then general views of people dying.

Then lets use this exact situation. Would you feel different if the child died vs his father?

DanGarion · 10-15-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Then lets use this exact situation. Would you feel different if the child died vs his father?

Not really, since in either scenario I would think the father was a moron for having something like that in easy access to the child without supervision, and would have thought the guy was an idiot if he did it himself and died.

cartman · 10-15-2009, 06:55 PM

Here's why the kid didn't answer when they were looking for him. He was too distracted by:

Atocep · 10-15-2009, 07:05 PM

This thread was way better with apathetic outrage.

DanGarion · 10-15-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

This thread was way better with apathetic outrage.

Agreed, it all went wrong once the banning started.

Young Drachma · 10-15-2009, 07:56 PM

Helium Balloon Tale: Boy and Family Talk to Reporters - The Lede Blog - NYTimes.com

Tigercat · 10-15-2009, 08:12 PM

You know, just because some of us place a child's life (I would be in that group) and a child's welfare above that of an adult's, does not mean every reasonable person feels that way. If someone used their personal moral guidelines to single me out, I might curse and then apologize later too. I am sure Ben or anyone else here might as well. Hard to understand the boxing.

Regardless, I like me some thread about boxes.

Sun Tzu · 10-15-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

You know how a thread works right? Click on the [1].

What's funny is you are the one that didn't follow the joke.

TCY Junkie · 10-15-2009, 08:28 PM

Lathum wears his heart on his sleeve so that's probably why it happened. Boxing a guy without heart isn't usually fun to watch.

RainMaker · 10-15-2009, 08:33 PM

Watching this interview on Larry King with the family and I'm sorry, but it just doesn't add up. The kids seem real obnoxious and the parents are milking it for the cameras. They asked why he hid in the box and he seemed to say "For the show" which doesn't make sense.

Lot of other things too:

- You had the most traumatic 3-4 hours of your life and you compose yourself to go on Larry King a few hours later?

- Aren't you fucking embarrased? I mean you caused a massive search, delayed flights, and used up countless resources because your kid was hiding from you in your home. Shouldn't you apologize and go away for awhile?

- Their whole background is fishy and they seem to really like the media attention.

- From what some people are saying, there is no way the balloon could have held that kid and gotten that high. Just wasn't big or powerful enough.

- Ton of misinformation on a basket falling. Couldn't you just ask the Father if the thing had a basket on it that could fall off? I mean they were searching for an hour or two for a basket that they believed had fallen off the balloon.

Whole thing doesn't add up. I'm calling hoax and these idiots will be angling for a reality show in a couple days.

Galaxy · 10-15-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Step 1: Cut a hole in the box.

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhwbxEfy7fg (SNL-NSFW)

JonInMiddleGA · 10-15-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

these idiots will probably get a reality show in a couple days.

Fixed that for you

Galaxy · 10-15-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Watching this interview on Larry King with the family and I'm sorry, but it just doesn't add up. The kids seem real obnoxious and the parents are milking it for the cameras. They asked why he hid in the box and he seemed to say "For the show" which doesn't make sense.

Lot of other things too:

- You had the most traumatic 3-4 hours of your life and you compose yourself to go on Larry King a few hours later?

- Aren't you fucking embarrased? I mean you caused a massive search, delayed flights, and used up countless resources because your kid was hiding from you in your home. Shouldn't you apologize and go away for awhile?

- Their whole background is fishy and they seem to really like the media attention.

- From what some people are saying, there is no way the balloon could have held that kid and gotten that high. Just wasn't big or powerful enough.

- Ton of misinformation on a basket falling. Couldn't you just ask the Father if the thing had a basket on it that could fall off? I mean they were searching for an hour or two for a basket that they believed had fallen off the balloon.

Whole thing doesn't add up. I'm calling hoax and these idiots will be angling for a reality show in a couple days.

I just turned it on. I don't think I've seen such obnoxious kids during an interview (and it's not like they are 4 or 5).

RainMaker · 10-15-2009, 08:41 PM

The kid said "I did it for the show".

Chief Rum · 10-15-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

What if he's pulling a Bart Simpson? He's really at home watching this whole thing unfold.

Nostradamus.

duckman · 10-15-2009, 08:43 PM

Fidatelo · 10-15-2009, 08:43 PM

This thread is dying for a pic of Montecore the Falcon from Joe Schmoe, but alas my l33t image search skills are coming up empty on this one

duckman · 10-15-2009, 08:46 PM

Young Drachma · 10-15-2009, 08:49 PM

Well, this story seems like it won't end well. I still don't understand how he managed to hide for that long with no one thinking to have scoured the house. That's why the story fails to me. The internet sleuths will be all over this one, tho.

MikeVic · 10-15-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Nostradamus.

Thank you thank you. All of life's events can be summed up in either Seinfeld or The Simpsons.

cartman · 10-15-2009, 08:51 PM

If it was a bit colder, this might have fit:

Senator · 10-15-2009, 09:00 PM

I knew I could come to this thread after all is said and done and watch you guys just go to town on each other. Thanks for the free entertainment.

RainMaker · 10-15-2009, 09:01 PM

It's like watching a trainwreck on TV. I have to admit it's great TV. First the kid screws them over by saying it was done for the show (video below). Later on Wolf Blitzer asks him to ask the kid why he said that and the Father got real flustered, wouldn't ask his son the question and is totally stumbling.

Essentially, the kid blew their cover. Parents should be charged, have their kids taken from them, and be forced to pay up for the costs. Sick of this fucking reality show shit and dipshits doing everything for attention.

Chief Rum · 10-15-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Thank you thank you. All of life's events can be summed up in either Seinfeld or The Simpsons.

Agreed. Speaking of which, this thread has been dying for a quote from the box factory episode.

LloydLungs · 10-15-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

This thread is dying for a pic of Montecore the Falcon from Joe Schmoe, but alas my l33t image search skills are coming up empty on this one

G'ah, I can't believe somebody else saw/remembers that! It's been popping into my head all day. It's time for another.... FALCON TWIST....

JediKooter · 10-15-2009, 09:48 PM

Well, seeing how hard it was to find this boy when he was right over their noses, no wonder the killer of Tupac has not been found.

Dr. Sak · 10-15-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter

Well, seeing how hard it was to find this boy when he was right over their noses, no wonder the killer of Tupac has not been found.

Or the person that killed Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.

JediKooter · 10-15-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Or the person that killed Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.

I'm sure OJ wants to know too!

JonInMiddleGA · 10-15-2009, 09:58 PM

From tomorrow's AJC

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-15-2009, 10:03 PM

The dad is the definition of douchebag.

CPS should get those kids out of there, but then what? Who would take them now that Michael Jackson is gone?

cuervo72 · 10-15-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TCY Junkie

Lathum wears his heart on his sleeve so that's probably why it happened. Boxing a guy without heart isn't usually fun to watch.

Subby told me it was a friendship bracelet, not a heart.

TCY Junkie · 10-16-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Subby told me it was a friendship bracelet, not a heart.

Pumpy told me to go to McDonald's. I got my number 3 like I always do and it hit me, three way. Who's more helpful?

Pumpy Tudors · 10-16-2009, 12:20 AM

nah man i swear i aint say shit

please dont box me

bhlloy · 10-16-2009, 12:43 AM

The parents should be locked up, lose the kids and have to pay fines out their asshole for the rest of their life if this is a publicity stunt (and I'm betting it turns out to be that with the facts we know so far). What if the balloon comes down in a river and somebody drowns trying to save the kid? Or an EMT/police car rushing to the scene crashes and somebody is killed?

Shkspr · 10-16-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

What if the balloon comes down in a river and somebody drowns trying to save the kid? Or an EMT/police car rushing to the scene crashes and somebody is killed?

I would vote to let their families come on Larry King a few hours later, too. I'm not one to hog the spotlight.

10-15-2009, 06:25 PM	#253
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10-15-2009, 06:25 PM	#254
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10-15-2009, 06:26 PM	#255
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Here's a rendition of what it might have looked like if the kid was in the balloon: __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-15-2009, 06:28 PM	#256
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10-15-2009, 06:31 PM	#259
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10-15-2009, 06:31 PM	#258
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The people of Colorado should burn down city hall if they don't make these jackasses pay for all the wasted labor on this. And CPS should be seizing the kids.

10-15-2009, 06:34 PM	#260
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	If the parents knowingly perpetuated the idea that the kid was in/around/hanging from the balloon, then they should be tied to balloons and let go. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

10-15-2009, 06:35 PM	#261
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I wonder if Subby's cunt detector ever went off during all this. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-15-2009, 06:55 PM	#268
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Here's why the kid didn't answer when they were looking for him. He was too distracted by: __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-15-2009, 07:05 PM	#269
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	This thread was way better with apathetic outrage.

10-15-2009, 07:56 PM	#271
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10-15-2009, 08:12 PM	#272
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	You know, just because some of us place a child's life (I would be in that group) and a child's welfare above that of an adult's, does not mean every reasonable person feels that way. If someone used their personal moral guidelines to single me out, I might curse and then apologize later too. I am sure Ben or anyone else here might as well. Hard to understand the boxing. Regardless, I like me some thread about boxes.

10-15-2009, 08:28 PM	#274
TCY Junkie College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TX	Lathum wears his heart on his sleeve so that's probably why it happened. Boxing a guy without heart isn't usually fun to watch. __________________ I try to open things I probably have no chance of opening.

10-15-2009, 08:33 PM	#275
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Watching this interview on Larry King with the family and I'm sorry, but it just doesn't add up. The kids seem real obnoxious and the parents are milking it for the cameras. They asked why he hid in the box and he seemed to say "For the show" which doesn't make sense. Lot of other things too: - You had the most traumatic 3-4 hours of your life and you compose yourself to go on Larry King a few hours later? - Aren't you fucking embarrased? I mean you caused a massive search, delayed flights, and used up countless resources because your kid was hiding from you in your home. Shouldn't you apologize and go away for awhile? - Their whole background is fishy and they seem to really like the media attention. - From what some people are saying, there is no way the balloon could have held that kid and gotten that high. Just wasn't big or powerful enough. - Ton of misinformation on a basket falling. Couldn't you just ask the Father if the thing had a basket on it that could fall off? I mean they were searching for an hour or two for a basket that they believed had fallen off the balloon. Whole thing doesn't add up. I'm calling hoax and these idiots will be angling for a reality show in a couple days.

10-15-2009, 08:41 PM	#279
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	The kid said "I did it for the show".

10-15-2009, 08:43 PM	#282
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10-15-2009, 08:49 PM	#284
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Well, this story seems like it won't end well. I still don't understand how he managed to hide for that long with no one thinking to have scoured the house. That's why the story fails to me. The internet sleuths will be all over this one, tho.

10-15-2009, 08:51 PM	#286
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	If it was a bit colder, this might have fit: __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-15-2009, 09:00 PM	#287
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10-15-2009, 09:01 PM	#288
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It's like watching a trainwreck on TV. I have to admit it's great TV. First the kid screws them over by saying it was done for the show (video below). Later on Wolf Blitzer asks him to ask the kid why he said that and the Father got real flustered, wouldn't ask his son the question and is totally stumbling. Essentially, the kid blew their cover. Parents should be charged, have their kids taken from them, and be forced to pay up for the costs. Sick of this fucking reality show shit and dipshits doing everything for attention.

10-15-2009, 09:48 PM	#291
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Well, seeing how hard it was to find this boy when he was right over their noses, no wonder the killer of Tupac has not been found. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

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10-15-2009, 10:03 PM	#295
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	The dad is the definition of douchebag. CPS should get those kids out of there, but then what? Who would take them now that Michael Jackson is gone?

10-16-2009, 12:20 AM	#298
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	nah man i swear i aint say shit please dont box me __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-16-2009, 12:43 AM	#299
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	The parents should be locked up, lose the kids and have to pay fines out their asshole for the rest of their life if this is a publicity stunt (and I'm betting it turns out to be that with the facts we know so far). What if the balloon comes down in a river and somebody drowns trying to save the kid? Or an EMT/police car rushing to the scene crashes and somebody is killed?

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