NFL Regular Season Week One Thread - Page 9

RendeR · 09-11-2011, 10:37 PM

With a weaker defense, definitely should have milked it a bit, but as strong as they are its worth the risk.

MikeVic · 09-11-2011, 10:37 PM

What a crazy stat!!!!!

RendeR · 09-11-2011, 10:39 PM

*snorts* I love watching the Cowgirls implode.

MJ4H · 09-11-2011, 10:39 PM

jesus christ romo

tucker rocky · 09-11-2011, 10:40 PM

Infamous Dallas meltdown.

bhlloy · 09-11-2011, 10:43 PM

Romo is unbelievable. For all the stats and the great throws I would not want him on my team in a million years.

Bryant has to take some of the blame because if you aren't healthy enough to run a curl route with enough conviction to stop the DB just walking in front of you and picking it off, get the fuck off the field. But geezus, Romo is just horrible in end game situations.

Marmel · 09-11-2011, 10:47 PM

My team my suck this year (Giants), but damn do I love to watch Romo play football.

SunDevil · 09-11-2011, 10:51 PM

What is the difference between Sanchez and Romo? Seriously, they play like the same person and make the same type of mistakes.

Matthean · 09-11-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Hype.

And Sanchez gets his fair share of hype as well, but certainly not Romo level. The Romo screw up factor was just stronger than the Sanchez screw up factor in this game.

k0ruptr · 09-11-2011, 10:59 PM

Cam Newton, mind = blown.

Scoobz0202 · 09-11-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevil

What is the difference between Sanchez and Romo? Seriously, they play like the same person and make the same type of mistakes.

Really? Look at their numbers. If anything Sanchez is overrated and Romo is about right when it comes to his reputation.

CU Tiger · 09-11-2011, 11:14 PM

Never in my life have I seen a prep QB less comfortable in his own skin as Romo.

Really he gags on it with stunning regularity...but when the pressure is off he makes plays that blow your mind.

He really is the Anti-Aikman....Troy wasn't going to flahs and make you say oooooh and aaaah....but when the pressure was on he was money...EVERYTIME. Romo.....exactly the opposite.

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-12-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Cam Newton, mind = blown.

Is it too late to take back my Akili Smith II predictions?

k0ruptr · 09-12-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Is it too late to take back my Akili Smith II predictions?

I know right. Still, I'm not happy with the pick, but if he continues to out perform expectations I can become a little happier.

k0ruptr · 09-12-2011, 12:19 AM

Dola, and two things come to mind. Either Arizona has the worst secondary of all time, or Cam is the greatest pre season troll known to man

jbergey22 · 09-12-2011, 12:35 AM

I mentioned earlier in the thread that Cam was not NFL ready and would be surprised if he was starting past week 2. Im not sure why he was completing 44 percent of his passes in preseason but he looked great today so I need to say I was wrong.

Some good games today with some surprising results.

It looked like the stronger defensive teams started out behind the 8 ball this week. Steelers/Jets/Packers all seemed far from midseason form.

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-12-2011, 12:40 AM

All in all, a good day. Lions won. Spent the day grilling meat & corn (still in the husk) with friends I have known for 20-30 years. Beer was also involved.

jbergey22 · 09-12-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

All in all, a good day. Lions won. Spent the day grilling meat & corn (still in the husk) with friends I have known for 20-30 years. Beer was also involved.

Very good start to the season. Winning a tough road game to start the season can only give that young team more confidence moving forward.

korme · 09-12-2011, 12:54 AM

Never imagined I'd say this 15 hours ago, but, we're screwed if Dalton misses anytime. Gradkowski is HORRIBLE. He got lucky that the Brownies' D wasn't set and we got an easy score. That said...

WHO DEY

Steelers in last

Solecismic · 09-12-2011, 05:45 AM

We had a free preview of the NFL Red Zone Channel today, because Charter just picked it up for its sports tier.

How do you go back to watching the "normal" way after almost seven hours of commercial-free skipping around, without even having to use the remote?

I think I'm going to have to get the sports tier.

Solecismic · 09-12-2011, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I mentioned earlier in the thread that Cam was not NFL ready and would be surprised if he was starting past week 2. Im not sure why he was completing 44 percent of his passes in preseason but he looked great today so I need to say I was wrong.

Some good games today with some surprising results.

It looked like the stronger defensive teams started out behind the 8 ball this week. Steelers/Jets/Packers all seemed far from midseason form.

Didn't Arizona trade a good cornerback to get Kolb? I'm predicting 12-30-185-1-3 next week against the Packers.

spleen1015 · 09-12-2011, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

We had a free preview of the NFL Red Zone Channel today, because Charter just picked it up for its sports tier.

How do you go back to watching the "normal" way after almost seven hours of commercial-free skipping around, without even having to use the remote?

I think I'm going to have to get the sports tier.

Red Zone is the greatest channel ever created.

I think it was free for everyone this weekend, btw.

Ksyrup · 09-12-2011, 07:14 AM

Not to excuse Romo in any way, but I know exactly what he was thinking on that INT - throw it to Bryant's back shoulder for the catch like he did against Revis in the 1st quarter. But the ball wasn't high enough, Revis was in position, and Bryant didn't look like he was actually running routes with the intent on catching anything at that point. And all of that should have been obvious before Romo let go of the ball.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-12-2011, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

We had a free preview of the NFL Red Zone Channel today, because Charter just picked it up for its sports tier.

How do you go back to watching the "normal" way after almost seven hours of commercial-free skipping around, without even having to use the remote?

I think I'm going to have to get the sports tier.

You don't.

It's well worth it.

Ksyrup · 09-12-2011, 07:53 AM

Makes me want to dump DTV just so I can have that option. Of course, I probably watched more NFL yesterday, laying around the house sick, than I wiill for the next 4 months.

gstelmack · 09-12-2011, 08:16 AM

On Cam Newton:

Yes, he finally looked like an NFL-ready QB.

However, I loved the announcers fawning over him. My favorite was the early incompletion to Olsen where the announcers went with "I bet Greg Olsen would love to have that back!" when Newton threw it a good yard behind him and Olsen tried to pivot and was lucky to get a hand on it. This was before Newton was even sniffing 400 yards, but they'd already decided every incompletion was the receiver's fault. Plus on that first TD to Smith with the blown coverage, Newton almost blew the play by underthrowing Smith, so he had to nearly stop to catch it, then get going again. Newton had a good day, but his accuracy still needs work.

BillJasper · 09-12-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

On Cam Newton:

Yes, he finally looked like an NFL-ready QB.

This. But I think people are forgetting that the Cardinals secondary probably isn't as good as Alabama's. I think he may turn out decent... but there are a lot of bumps in the road ahead.

SunDevil · 09-12-2011, 10:01 AM

Behold This Bumbling Romo-Sanchez Lowlight Reell

I think this video of the low lights between the two QBs last night for me at least justifies why I think that Romo and Sanchez are the exact same qb.

BillJasper · 09-12-2011, 10:15 AM

I'm waiting to see if Donovan McNabb ever looks like an NFL quarterback again though. Looks like Reid and Shanahan were wise to cut bait on this guy... though it cost the Redskins a second round pick to figure it out.

Butter · 09-12-2011, 10:45 AM

As much as I'd like to heap all kinds of praise on the Bengals, the Browns looked like the worst coached team in a while out there. All those 1st half penalties, and then allowing the go ahead TD on a play where your defense was still in their huddle.

Just awful, awful coaching.

Who Dey!

Thomkal · 09-12-2011, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Didn't Arizona trade a good cornerback to get Kolb? I'm predicting 12-30-185-1-3 next week against the Packers.

Yes they traded Cromartie to get Kolb because they picked up Peterson in the draft and were happy with the two projected starters-Toler and Jefferson. Then Toler got injured and out for the season, and Peterson had to start. I'm of a mind that Richard Marshall should start in his place against the Skins this week.

How did Cromartie do this week for the Eagles anyway?

Thomkal · 09-12-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Red Zone is the greatest channel ever created.

I think it was free for everyone this weekend, btw.

Not us Time Warner customers sadly. :::gives the finger to Time-Warner:::

RainMaker · 09-12-2011, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Red Zone is the greatest channel ever created.

I think it was free for everyone this weekend, btw.

I concur. This is my 3rd year of it. The first few weeks I'd reach for the remote every time an anticipated commercial break was coming out of habit.

Lathum · 09-12-2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

We had a free preview of the NFL Red Zone Channel today, because Charter just picked it up for its sports tier.

How do you go back to watching the "normal" way after almost seven hours of commercial-free skipping around, without even having to use the remote?

I think I'm going to have to get the sports tier.

TV providers work just like drug dealers.

Scoobz0202 · 09-12-2011, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunDevil

Behold This Bumbling Romo-Sanchez Lowlight Reell

I think this video of the low lights between the two QBs last night for me at least justifies why I think that Romo and Sanchez are the exact same qb.

I'll not deny that Romo has yet to really prove on a consistent basis that he can handle the pressure. That may or may not be why they have yet to win a Super Bowl, or come close, with him at the helm. But the numbers do not lie. The other three and a half quarters of a game Romo is consistently better. Now.. would I rather have a quarter back that plays great for 3 1/2 and then is shaky when the games on the line, or one that is average the first 3 1/2 and then has a better chance of not choking? Personally, I'll take Romo.

We wouldn't even be talking about this shit if Dallas had addressed their fucking secondary. The minute Jenkin's got banged up I told my buddy Dallas is done. That was with a 14 point lead.

Ksyrup · 09-12-2011, 01:56 PM

Eric Berry done for the year.

tucker rocky · 09-12-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Eric Berry done for the year.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/09/12/torn..._breaking_news

Suburban Rhythm · 09-12-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Eric Berry done for the year.

Willie Colon could be done too with a tricpes injury. They've confirmed there is an injury, just no announcement on severity.

Colon missed all of last season with a torn achilles in camp.

Max Starks and Flozell Adams will be getting calls.

Scoobz0202 · 09-12-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Tony Romo has 21 TD and 20 INT career in December with a 80.3 QB rating. That's essentially Rex Grossman as a starter in Chicago (23, 20, 73.9). You're right, the numbers don't lie. When the games matter most, Romo has a consistent history of not being able to play up to the moment. Tony Romo is a great fantasy QB.

And Sanchez has 3 TD and 8 INT with a QB rating of 61.4. That's worse then JaMarcus Russell as a starter in Oakland in 2008.

Scoobz0202 · 09-12-2011, 02:42 PM

But they are still not the same quarterback.

I will plead ignorance on what the perception is of Sanchez, to an extent. I have kind of been under the impression that going into last year was when he was going to become the king of New York. Not too sure what the general perception was going into this year. I still deny they are the same quarterback.

spleen1015 · 09-12-2011, 02:56 PM

They showed Sanchez's stats regular season versus playoffs yesterday on one of the pregame shows and he has by far performed better in the playoffs, a 4-1 TD to INT ratio, etc.

Not saying he is better or worse than Romo. Just giving you guys more to talk about.

larrymcg421 · 09-12-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

And the common perception is NY wins despite Sanchez while Romo is a superstar. The truth is they're both not good enough but at least Sanchez is still young.

I don't see that as the common perception at all. I more often hear it in the reverse - that Romo is a choker but Sanchez is a superstar because all he does is win. For instance, most people would be surprised that Henne has a better QB rating than Sanchez. And I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that Henne has had better surrounding talent. Still, hardly anyone thinks Henne is anywhere near as good as Sanchez.

Rizon · 09-12-2011, 03:01 PM

We don't hear squat about Sanchez out here in CA. The only time we hear about Romo (how great he is) is if I ever walk by the Polk area in Frisco. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Danny · 09-12-2011, 03:07 PM

To be fair in the Sanchez vs. Henne debate, Sanchez is two years younger with one less year of NFL experience. He also has played well in the postseason.

Matthean · 09-12-2011, 04:09 PM

I thought Sanchez's issue was more being consistent. He could be really awful, but he tended to come back from those games and play rather well. You can't go in saying, "Well, we know we will get this out of him." Being his third year, I do think you will be able to get a sense of feeling where he will project after this year. If he consistently does stupid stuff, then it's unlikely going away.

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MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	jesus christ romo __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

09-11-2011, 10:47 PM	#407
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	My team my suck this year (Giants), but damn do I love to watch Romo play football. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

09-11-2011, 10:59 PM	#412
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Cam Newton, mind = blown. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

09-11-2011, 10:37 PM	#402
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	What a crazy stat!!!!!

09-11-2011, 10:40 PM	#405
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Infamous Dallas meltdown.

09-11-2011, 10:43 PM	#406
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Romo is unbelievable. For all the stats and the great throws I would not want him on my team in a million years. Bryant has to take some of the blame because if you aren't healthy enough to run a curl route with enough conviction to stop the DB just walking in front of you and picking it off, get the fuck off the field. But geezus, Romo is just horrible in end game situations.

09-11-2011, 11:14 PM	#414
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Never in my life have I seen a prep QB less comfortable in his own skin as Romo. Really he gags on it with stunning regularity...but when the pressure is off he makes plays that blow your mind. He really is the Anti-Aikman....Troy wasn't going to flahs and make you say oooooh and aaaah....but when the pressure was on he was money...EVERYTIME. Romo.....exactly the opposite.

09-12-2011, 12:19 AM	#417
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Dola, and two things come to mind. Either Arizona has the worst secondary of all time, or Cam is the greatest pre season troll known to man __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

09-12-2011, 12:35 AM	#419
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	I mentioned earlier in the thread that Cam was not NFL ready and would be surprised if he was starting past week 2. Im not sure why he was completing 44 percent of his passes in preseason but he looked great today so I need to say I was wrong. Some good games today with some surprising results. It looked like the stronger defensive teams started out behind the 8 ball this week. Steelers/Jets/Packers all seemed far from midseason form. Last edited by jbergey22 : 09-12-2011 at 12:41 AM.

09-12-2011, 12:40 AM	#420
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	All in all, a good day. Lions won. Spent the day grilling meat & corn (still in the husk) with friends I have known for 20-30 years. Beer was also involved.

09-12-2011, 12:54 AM	#422
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Never imagined I'd say this 15 hours ago, but, we're screwed if Dalton misses anytime. Gradkowski is HORRIBLE. He got lucky that the Brownies' D wasn't set and we got an easy score. That said... WHO DEY Steelers in last

09-12-2011, 05:45 AM	#423
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	We had a free preview of the NFL Red Zone Channel today, because Charter just picked it up for its sports tier. How do you go back to watching the "normal" way after almost seven hours of commercial-free skipping around, without even having to use the remote? I think I'm going to have to get the sports tier.

09-12-2011, 07:14 AM	#426
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Not to excuse Romo in any way, but I know exactly what he was thinking on that INT - throw it to Bryant's back shoulder for the catch like he did against Revis in the 1st quarter. But the ball wasn't high enough, Revis was in position, and Bryant didn't look like he was actually running routes with the intent on catching anything at that point. And all of that should have been obvious before Romo let go of the ball. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-12-2011, 07:53 AM	#428
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Makes me want to dump DTV just so I can have that option. Of course, I probably watched more NFL yesterday, laying around the house sick, than I wiill for the next 4 months. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-12-2011, 08:16 AM	#429
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	On Cam Newton: Yes, he finally looked like an NFL-ready QB. However, I loved the announcers fawning over him. My favorite was the early incompletion to Olsen where the announcers went with "I bet Greg Olsen would love to have that back!" when Newton threw it a good yard behind him and Olsen tried to pivot and was lucky to get a hand on it. This was before Newton was even sniffing 400 yards, but they'd already decided every incompletion was the receiver's fault. Plus on that first TD to Smith with the blown coverage, Newton almost blew the play by underthrowing Smith, so he had to nearly stop to catch it, then get going again. Newton had a good day, but his accuracy still needs work. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

09-12-2011, 10:15 AM	#432
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I'm waiting to see if Donovan McNabb ever looks like an NFL quarterback again though. Looks like Reid and Shanahan were wise to cut bait on this guy... though it cost the Redskins a second round pick to figure it out. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

09-12-2011, 10:45 AM	#433
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	As much as I'd like to heap all kinds of praise on the Bengals, the Browns looked like the worst coached team in a while out there. All those 1st half penalties, and then allowing the go ahead TD on a play where your defense was still in their huddle. Just awful, awful coaching. Who Dey! __________________ My listening habits Last edited by Butter : 09-12-2011 at 10:46 AM.

09-12-2011, 01:56 PM	#439
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Eric Berry done for the year. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-12-2011, 02:42 PM	#445
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	But they are still not the same quarterback. I will plead ignorance on what the perception is of Sanchez, to an extent. I have kind of been under the impression that going into last year was when he was going to become the king of New York. Not too sure what the general perception was going into this year. I still deny they are the same quarterback. Last edited by Scoobz0202 : 09-12-2011 at 02:43 PM.

09-12-2011, 02:56 PM	#446
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	They showed Sanchez's stats regular season versus playoffs yesterday on one of the pregame shows and he has by far performed better in the playoffs, a 4-1 TD to INT ratio, etc. Not saying he is better or worse than Romo. Just giving you guys more to talk about.

09-12-2011, 03:07 PM	#449
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	To be fair in the Sanchez vs. Henne debate, Sanchez is two years younger with one less year of NFL experience. He also has played well in the postseason.

09-12-2011, 04:09 PM	#450
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I thought Sanchez's issue was more being consistent. He could be really awful, but he tended to come back from those games and play rather well. You can't go in saying, "Well, we know we will get this out of him." Being his third year, I do think you will be able to get a sense of feeling where he will project after this year. If he consistently does stupid stuff, then it's unlikely going away. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

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