STORM'S END (GoT) Thread

Chief Rum · 05-19-2013, 11:54 PM

This is the House Baratheon of Storm's End thread. You may only post in here or view this thread if you are allowed to in the game rules.

This thread is for members of House Baratheon of Storm's End.

FOR REFERENCE

Here is the player list, with roles

HOUSE STARK

King Robb Stark-- Coffee Warlord

Roose Bolton-- JAG
Rickard Karstark-- MrBug708
Theon Greyjoy-- Lathum

HOUSE LANNISTER

King Joffrey Baratheon-- Zinto

Tywin Lannister-- hoopsguy
Jaime Lannister-- greenbeans
Ser Gregor Clegane-- Julio Riddols

HOUSE BARATHEON OF DRAGONSTONE

King Stannis Baratheon-- Autumn

Ser Davos Seaworth-- InBlue
Axell Florent-- claphamsa
Melisandre-- bulletsponge

HOUSE BARATHEON OF STORM'S END

King Renly Baratheon-- path12

Loras Tyrell-- murrayyyyy
Cortnay Penrose-- Darth Vilus
Brienne of Tarth-- fontisian

NEUTRAL CHARACTERS

Barristan Selmy-- mauchow
Lord Varys-- DaddyTorgo
Cersei Lannister-- Narcizo
Petyr Littlefinger Baelish-- saldana
Tyrion Lannister-- Danny

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 12:31 AM

Lets do this!

fontisian · 05-20-2013, 07:36 AM

Hey guys. Should we figure out our resources?

claphamsa · 05-20-2013, 07:58 AM

im here, loyal and confused. I read the first book years ago, and hated it... so there is that.

fontisian · 05-20-2013, 08:00 AM

Wrong thread clap.

claphamsa · 05-20-2013, 08:03 AM

huh? oh shit! 2 Barathoeons. my bad

murrayyyyy · 05-20-2013, 09:52 AM

I'm "here". For the record, I will be scarce for this game. Let's just say I will be wearing a black suit soon and no clue of when it is.

I'll try to find time to read the rules but I was too busy this weekend because of above. Monday's suck but I'll make sure to follow actions and will check in periodically today.

So step one is kill Clap because he posted in the wrong thread? LOL

path12 · 05-20-2013, 10:24 AM

A sword swallower through and through.

I would like my Hand to be someone who will have availability this week. Mondays are my worst day, my weeks are frontloaded.

Darth, font?

path12 · 05-20-2013, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

Hey guys. Should we figure out our resources?

Apparently a treasury report is coming but in addition to the resources the three of you have I bring:

40,000 gold
40,000 men
15 ships

I have to think we start strong. My initial impulse is to weaken the Lannisters, mainly to try and get some discord sewn with the King's Landing advisors......seems it might be easier for them initally to just side with the King that is in their midst.

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 12:06 PM

My availability should be decent with the exception of Friday, I'm going to sea world that day. I can do small checks that day though

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 12:08 PM

I start with 3000g and 1000 men and gain an additional 1080g and 90 men a day. I can't build or hold any hips because my land is landlocked

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 12:25 PM

Oh and also if we are attacked we get some kind if benefit, that's my ability

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 12:25 PM

Attacked in war, not raided or anything

murrayyyyy · 05-20-2013, 12:40 PM

Because of my kick ass sword play (and not that kind!) I give our team a bonus in wars. Same on ships for me, no help there.

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 12:49 PM

So we should try to anger a king bad enough so he goes to war with us then?

fontisian · 05-20-2013, 01:28 PM

I have 1000 gold, I'm very good at capturing people and my side is benefited if I'm fighting. I've got a fair bit of free time for the next few weeks.

path12 · 05-20-2013, 01:41 PM

I wasn't given abilities as much as a positive and negative.

My positive is that I cannot be assassinated as long as Brienne is in the game.
My negative is that I cannot kill Loras if it came to that. I'm not sure why that is a negative -- I'll have to revisit the rules when I get a chance.

I would think the only other side with ships is Stannis, who likely has more than we do and probably some sort of magic ability. I suspect the Lannisters have some kind of wildfire to protect Kings Landing. Not sure what Stark would have offhand, guessing either some sort of battlefield bonus or something to do with direwolves.

I'll come up with a Hand decision later this afternoon. I'm checking in between reports. I like our team.

path12 · 05-20-2013, 02:36 PM

Still guessing at abilities.

Varys -- can look in the house threads?
Selmy -- combat bonus or additional protection of some sort.

Also, with no wolves the traditionally strong analysis players may be at a disadvantage. This is going to be about wrangling votes.

Ideas which house to go for first? I would love to get Melisandre out of the way and think we could build support for that in thread.

path12 · 05-20-2013, 03:29 PM

I'm going to go with Darth for the Hand, mainly because I like the protection Brienne provides and do not wish to put a bigger target on her than needed.

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 04:26 PM

I'm completely in the dark on game of thrones so I'm relying on you guys to guess at the abilities and decide which house is best to go for. I'm game with any though

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 04:37 PM

I'm cool with being the Hand, basically all it does is grant PM rights to me and the King right?

bulletsponge · 05-20-2013, 04:55 PM

checking in. i have only 1000 gold and no men or ships

Darth Vilus · 05-20-2013, 05:44 PM

Wrong thread bullet

murrayyyyy · 05-20-2013, 06:17 PM

Just got home to read the rules and catch up.

fontisian · 05-20-2013, 07:30 PM

Murrayyyyy: Can you post your resources?

Should we consider trying to ally with another group?

path12 · 05-20-2013, 11:47 PM

Ally in the main thread? We don't have anyone who can approach quietly do we? (maybe this discussion is going on in there, I came here first).

I would like to get one of Varys, Selmy or Tyrion on our side as you could tell by the main thread. An ally would be great, ideas are welcome or just toss some darts out there and see what happens.

path12 · 05-21-2013, 12:21 AM

BTW, I'll be sending out a PM to murrayyyyy and fontesian in the morning (been reading the rules, yeesh).

I guess we can approach via PM or an emissary. Thoughts?

Stannis -- could probably use an ally due to smaller army, think they have some sort of magic uses with Melisandre.
Stark -- further away from us, we could pincer either Stannis or Lannister.
Lannister -- I have trouble trusting them just from the books but this is obviously a different thing.

Our strength is our army -- Brienne has a combat bonus as does Loras and Penrose gives us a defensive bonus. We should probably use it.

Wondering which neutral to approach tomorrow.

As you can tell I do a lot of thinking out loud.

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

Murrayyyyy: Can you post your resources?

Should we consider trying to ally with another group?

Do we want to post in here? The way I read the rules is that people are allowed to view our threads as reward eventually? Just didn't know how tight lipped we wanted to be.

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 12:31 AM

25000 gold, 15000 men and no ships

3780 gold, 270 men and no ships every day, after my 10% tithing to King Renly Baratheon

Damn you people are broke...

Darth Vilus · 05-21-2013, 12:32 AM

damn youre rich lol

fontisian · 05-21-2013, 08:05 AM

Dragonstone's advantage is their ships, which will be helpful in raids, and Melisandre's abilities. Their disadvantage is their lack of men and funds and the religious divisions that may blow up in Autumn's face.

Lannister's advantage is wealth, army, and combat oriented bannermen. If I had to guess at a disadvantage, it would be a lack of loyalty among the

fontisian · 05-21-2013, 08:10 AM

Thank you laptop, for posting while I was halfway through my post.

To continue: If I had to guess at a disadvantage, it would be a lack of loyalty among the bannermen and weakness to raids from ships.

Stark's advantages are their wealth, men and the Dire Wolf, though they don't have as much wealth or men as the Lannisters.

I think we should try to get everyone to vote for the Lannisters, particularly hoopsguy, as he is the wealthiest of the bannermen, the hand, and it looks like he's the most talkative in the Lannister thread.

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 08:26 AM

I'm going to play my character pretty true so whomever Path votes for, I'll follow.

fontisian · 05-21-2013, 08:38 AM

An alliance with Dragonstone would allow us to avoid raids and whatever powers Melisandre has, while and alliance with Stark would give us significant manpower that could be used to take down the Lannisters. We could propose an alliance with both houses to last until the Lannisters are wiped out.

Alternatively, we could let Lannister and Dragonstone wipe each other out.

Looks like Autumn wants to vote out a low income bannerman to recruit them later.

If we do succeed in voting out another bannerman, I suggest that we contact them in advance and ask them to transfer all of their gold to us in exchange for being immediately accepted as a bannerman. This way, the avoid giving half their gold to their former king and the other half to charity and we avoid paying money to charity. It's particularly important if we vote out hoopsguy, because he's so wealthy.

path12 · 05-21-2013, 10:12 AM

Hey guys, I read the rules wrong yesterday so I won't be able to send you PM's.

Brienne, I love the suggestion about voting out a bannerman. Will you use your PM today to approach whoever looks like they are getting the vote?

Hoops will likely be hard to vote out just for meta reasons. Still early but I wouldn't be surprised to see either Clegane or Melisandre be the choice.

I am sending Penrose out as an emissary today. Feel free to be friendly to Stannis' faction in the main thread......I believe an alliance is going to be necessary.

And that being the case I guess my initial impression will be a Clegane vote, but let's see how things start to shake out before we put too much out there.

What do you guys feel about voting? I'm really unsure how we want to coordinate that and welcome ideas.

path12 · 05-21-2013, 10:13 AM

Loras, my thought for your PM is to approach one of the neutrals. Who do you think may be useful to us?

path12 · 05-21-2013, 10:17 AM

Oh, and since Loras already has Highgarden I am going to name him Warden of the South.

path12 · 05-21-2013, 10:17 AM

Services. Thoughts? I'm thinking more ships give us more security against Dragonstone.

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Loras, my thought for your PM is to approach one of the neutrals. Who do you think may be useful to us?

Sal or Narc based of characters that I think would be stacked to help out. I think Narc is a better player personally and would like to always have him on our teams side.

path12 · 05-21-2013, 10:26 AM

Stannis has approached us supporting a Clegane vote.

fontisian · 05-21-2013, 10:32 AM

path: See if you can convice him to switch to Tywin Lannister.

For services, you should definitely use the one pm to Varys. I like the idea of investing in a land. Do you want to attempt a raid on one of the smaller lands?

fontisian · 05-21-2013, 10:38 AM

And yeah, I'll use my pm today to approach the vote target.

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 10:44 AM

question, should we keep a running log of important posts in this thread? Also am I allowed to copy from main and put in here?

For example.

Post 300: Lands of Westros

or just

HOUSE STARK

King Robb Stark (CW)-- Winterfell (family home), Riverrun, The Twins and Deepwood Motte.
Roose Bolton(JAG)-- The Dreadfort (family home)
Rickard Karstark (MrBug708)-- The Karhold (family home)

HOUSE LANNISTER

King Joffrey Baratheon (Zinto)-- King's Landing, Harrenhal, Crakehall and Fairhaven
Tywin Lannister (hoopsguy)-- Casterly Rock (family home)
Ser Gregor Clegane (Julio Riddols)-- Clegane's Keep (family home)

HOUSE BARATHEON OF DRAGONSTONE

King Stannis Baratheon (Autumn)-- Dragonstone (family home), Maidenpool and Duskendale
Ser Davos Seaworth (InBlue)-- Cape Wrath (family home)
Ser Axell Florent (claphamsa)-- Brightwater Keep (family home)

HOUSE BARATHEON OF STORM'S END

King Renly Baratheon (path12)-- Storm's End (family home), Summerhall, Blackhaven, The Arbor
Ser Loras Tyrell (murrayyyyy)-- Highgarden (family home)
Ser Cortnay Penrose (Darth Vilus)-- Parchments (family home)

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

For services, you should definitely use the one pm to Varys. I like the idea of investing in a land. Do you want to attempt a raid on one of the smaller lands?

I agree on the land and a raid. I didn't play last time but I assume services will be able to be purchased later in the game and getting more land to get more money/armies would seem like a good start.

path12 · 05-21-2013, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

path: See if you can convice him to switch to Tywin Lannister.

For services, you should definitely use the one pm to Varys. I like the idea of investing in a land. Do you want to attempt a raid on one of the smaller lands?

I've already sent a PM to Varys this morning. We need a source for intelligence, and he is my priority there.

Will suggest Tywin to Stannis and see what happens. Not sure if he'll be able to respond to the PM, need to clarify that with Chief.

Did you have a land in mind? I really need to get some work done so welcome suggestions.....

path12 · 05-21-2013, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Sal or Narc based of characters that I think would be stacked to help out. I think Narc is a better player personally and would like to always have him on our teams side.

Narc is a good choice here I think. He is active enough that he can help us. Go for it.

path12 · 05-21-2013, 11:04 AM

Murrayyyyy, to follow up with your houses post, I did put this together as well:

RESOURCES:

Storms End: 40,000 gold, 40,000 men, 15 ships
Loras (bonus to combat): 25,000 gold, 15,000 men, 0 ships -- daily 3,780 gold, 270 men, 0 ships.
Penrose (bonus to defense): 3,000 gold, 1,000 men, 0 ships -- daily 1,080 gold, 90 men, 0 ships.
Brienne (bonus to combat, good at capture): 1,000 gold

And now I really need to check out for a bit.....

Chief Rum · 05-21-2013, 11:14 AM

Ser Cortnay Penrose (Darth Vilus) has left the camp for the day.

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Did you have a land in mind? I really need to get some work done so welcome suggestions.....

No clue for now (swamped for the next 4 hours probably so open to suggestions.

Also how do we want to approach Narc. A hey if some stuff goes down or a would you like to side with us question. I only get one PM shot so will try to include as many questions and answers to the follow up in the initial PM (Save on PMs by giving answers that he possibly might ask questions to)

murrayyyyy · 05-21-2013, 12:15 PM

Someone may know which lands are closest better than I do... Should we aim for the productive/moderate type lands?

THE RICHEST LANDS

Casterly Rock, Highgarden, King's Landing, Riverrun, Storm's End, Winterfell

WEALTHY LANDS

Brightwater Keep, Dragonstone, The Dreadfort, Harrenhal

PRODUCTIVE LANDS

Blackhaven, Duskendale, The Karhold, Maidenpool

MODERATE LANDS

The Arbor, Crakehall, Summerhall, The Twins

POOREST LANDS

Clegane's Keep, Deepwood Motte, Fairhaven, Parchments, Cape Wrath

05-20-2013, 12:31 AM	#2
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Lets do this! __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 07:58 AM	#4
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	im here, loyal and confused. I read the first book years ago, and hated it... so there is that. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-20-2013, 08:03 AM	#6
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	huh? oh shit! 2 Barathoeons. my bad __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-20-2013, 10:24 AM	#8
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	A sword swallower through and through. I would like my Hand to be someone who will have availability this week. Mondays are my worst day, my weeks are frontloaded. Darth, font? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-20-2013, 12:06 PM	#10
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	My availability should be decent with the exception of Friday, I'm going to sea world that day. I can do small checks that day though __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 07:36 AM	#3
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Hey guys. Should we figure out our resources?

05-20-2013, 08:00 AM	#5
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Wrong thread clap.

05-20-2013, 09:52 AM	#7
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	I'm "here". For the record, I will be scarce for this game. Let's just say I will be wearing a black suit soon and no clue of when it is. I'll try to find time to read the rules but I was too busy this weekend because of above. Monday's suck but I'll make sure to follow actions and will check in periodically today. So step one is kill Clap because he posted in the wrong thread? LOL

05-20-2013, 12:08 PM	#11
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	I start with 3000g and 1000 men and gain an additional 1080g and 90 men a day. I can't build or hold any hips because my land is landlocked __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 12:25 PM	#12
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Oh and also if we are attacked we get some kind if benefit, that's my ability __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 12:25 PM	#13
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Attacked in war, not raided or anything __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 12:40 PM	#14
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Because of my kick ass sword play (and not that kind!) I give our team a bonus in wars. Same on ships for me, no help there.

05-20-2013, 12:49 PM	#15
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	So we should try to anger a king bad enough so he goes to war with us then? __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 01:28 PM	#16
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	I have 1000 gold, I'm very good at capturing people and my side is benefited if I'm fighting. I've got a fair bit of free time for the next few weeks.

05-20-2013, 01:41 PM	#17
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I wasn't given abilities as much as a positive and negative. My positive is that I cannot be assassinated as long as Brienne is in the game. My negative is that I cannot kill Loras if it came to that. I'm not sure why that is a negative -- I'll have to revisit the rules when I get a chance. I would think the only other side with ships is Stannis, who likely has more than we do and probably some sort of magic ability. I suspect the Lannisters have some kind of wildfire to protect Kings Landing. Not sure what Stark would have offhand, guessing either some sort of battlefield bonus or something to do with direwolves. I'll come up with a Hand decision later this afternoon. I'm checking in between reports. I like our team. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-20-2013, 02:36 PM	#18
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Still guessing at abilities. Varys -- can look in the house threads? Selmy -- combat bonus or additional protection of some sort. Also, with no wolves the traditionally strong analysis players may be at a disadvantage. This is going to be about wrangling votes. Ideas which house to go for first? I would love to get Melisandre out of the way and think we could build support for that in thread. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-20-2013, 03:29 PM	#19
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I'm going to go with Darth for the Hand, mainly because I like the protection Brienne provides and do not wish to put a bigger target on her than needed. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-20-2013, 04:26 PM	#20
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	I'm completely in the dark on game of thrones so I'm relying on you guys to guess at the abilities and decide which house is best to go for. I'm game with any though __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 04:37 PM	#21
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	I'm cool with being the Hand, basically all it does is grant PM rights to me and the King right? __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 04:55 PM	#22
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	checking in. i have only 1000 gold and no men or ships __________________ the Barbarian, WW Royal Rumble Champion

05-20-2013, 05:44 PM	#23
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Wrong thread bullet __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-20-2013, 06:17 PM	#24
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Just got home to read the rules and catch up.

05-20-2013, 07:30 PM	#25
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Murrayyyyy: Can you post your resources? Should we consider trying to ally with another group? __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-20-2013, 11:47 PM	#26
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Ally in the main thread? We don't have anyone who can approach quietly do we? (maybe this discussion is going on in there, I came here first). I would like to get one of Varys, Selmy or Tyrion on our side as you could tell by the main thread. An ally would be great, ideas are welcome or just toss some darts out there and see what happens. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-21-2013, 12:21 AM	#27
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	BTW, I'll be sending out a PM to murrayyyyy and fontesian in the morning (been reading the rules, yeesh). I guess we can approach via PM or an emissary. Thoughts? Stannis -- could probably use an ally due to smaller army, think they have some sort of magic uses with Melisandre. Stark -- further away from us, we could pincer either Stannis or Lannister. Lannister -- I have trouble trusting them just from the books but this is obviously a different thing. Our strength is our army -- Brienne has a combat bonus as does Loras and Penrose gives us a defensive bonus. We should probably use it. Wondering which neutral to approach tomorrow. As you can tell I do a lot of thinking out loud. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-21-2013, 12:31 AM	#29
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	25000 gold, 15000 men and no ships 3780 gold, 270 men and no ships every day, after my 10% tithing to King Renly Baratheon Damn you people are broke...

05-21-2013, 12:32 AM	#30
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	damn youre rich lol __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-21-2013, 08:05 AM	#31
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Dragonstone's advantage is their ships, which will be helpful in raids, and Melisandre's abilities. Their disadvantage is their lack of men and funds and the religious divisions that may blow up in Autumn's face. Lannister's advantage is wealth, army, and combat oriented bannermen. If I had to guess at a disadvantage, it would be a lack of loyalty among the __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-21-2013, 08:10 AM	#32
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Thank you laptop, for posting while I was halfway through my post. To continue: If I had to guess at a disadvantage, it would be a lack of loyalty among the bannermen and weakness to raids from ships. Stark's advantages are their wealth, men and the Dire Wolf, though they don't have as much wealth or men as the Lannisters. I think we should try to get everyone to vote for the Lannisters, particularly hoopsguy, as he is the wealthiest of the bannermen, the hand, and it looks like he's the most talkative in the Lannister thread. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-21-2013, 08:26 AM	#33
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	I'm going to play my character pretty true so whomever Path votes for, I'll follow.

05-21-2013, 08:38 AM	#34
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	An alliance with Dragonstone would allow us to avoid raids and whatever powers Melisandre has, while and alliance with Stark would give us significant manpower that could be used to take down the Lannisters. We could propose an alliance with both houses to last until the Lannisters are wiped out. Alternatively, we could let Lannister and Dragonstone wipe each other out. Looks like Autumn wants to vote out a low income bannerman to recruit them later. If we do succeed in voting out another bannerman, I suggest that we contact them in advance and ask them to transfer all of their gold to us in exchange for being immediately accepted as a bannerman. This way, the avoid giving half their gold to their former king and the other half to charity and we avoid paying money to charity. It's particularly important if we vote out hoopsguy, because he's so wealthy. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-21-2013, 10:12 AM	#35
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Hey guys, I read the rules wrong yesterday so I won't be able to send you PM's. Brienne, I love the suggestion about voting out a bannerman. Will you use your PM today to approach whoever looks like they are getting the vote? Hoops will likely be hard to vote out just for meta reasons. Still early but I wouldn't be surprised to see either Clegane or Melisandre be the choice. I am sending Penrose out as an emissary today. Feel free to be friendly to Stannis' faction in the main thread......I believe an alliance is going to be necessary. And that being the case I guess my initial impression will be a Clegane vote, but let's see how things start to shake out before we put too much out there. What do you guys feel about voting? I'm really unsure how we want to coordinate that and welcome ideas. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-21-2013, 10:13 AM	#36
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Loras, my thought for your PM is to approach one of the neutrals. Who do you think may be useful to us? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-21-2013, 10:17 AM	#37
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Oh, and since Loras already has Highgarden I am going to name him Warden of the South. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-21-2013, 10:26 AM	#40
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Stannis has approached us supporting a Clegane vote. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.