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[dal_hawk]

Deleted my hawks CAPs to make room for NFL League CAP

Heres my 09 Packers

G: Greg Jennings: Deep Threat, Speed Burner, and Clutch
G: Aaron Rogers: Rocket Arm, Quick Feet, Scrambler
S: Donald Driver: Tough in the middle, Quick Feet
S: Charles Woodson: Bump, Coverage
S: Nock Collins: B-hawk, Coverage
B: TE Finley: Tough in the middle
B: AJ Hawk: Run Reader
B: Al Haris: Coverage
B: Aaron Kampman: Rip
B: Nick Barnett: Run Coverage
B: Ryan Grant: Quick Feet

[Rocky]

I would be interested but some of the banned categories are ridiculous. No Laser Arm? Finesse? Power? How are you supposed to differentiate finesse backs from power backs?

I hope you don't take any offense to this but I think this would be much more successful if you left every ability on the table as long as they were reasonably close to the player.

I would even suggest everybody going by a set group of rosters.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocky

I would be interested but some of the banned categories are ridiculous. No Laser Arm? Finesse? Power? How are you supposed to differentiate finesse backs from power backs? I hope you don't take any offense to this but I think this would be much more successful if you left every ability on the table as long as they were reasonably close to the player. I would even suggest everybody going by a set group of rosters.

Sorry rocky not going to do that. Now finesse and power are worth discussing but the others are out for a reason. Trust me Laser arm the zip on it is way to unrealistic.

[TWOSILK]

count me in, a couple of questions do the teams that you assemble have to be a real team, i understand that they should be based off of real players, but like are we allowing all time teams, like the all time gators, bucs, and things like that?
secondly can it be a mix of caps, and legends, or just all cap teams, either way count me in, just thinking of having chris leak hand the ball off to Emmitt Smith or to have Brandon Spikes scraping off of Jack youngblood to make a play, oh the possiblities

[TWOSILK]

would anyone have a problem with Tim Tebow with speed burner, I know that he doesn't technically have that type of speed, but in this game that is the only way to make him a decent runner, if it is a problem then no biggie, just wanted everyones opinion.

[mKoz26]

I'm in.

Bears:

G CB Tillman (Bump Master, Strength Bonus, Ball Hawk)
G LB Briggs (Run Coverage, Coverage Bonus, Big Hit)
S HB Forte (Break Away Burst, Ankle Breaker)
S QB Cutler (Rocket Arm, Scrambler)
S DE Ogunleye (Spin, Pass Rush Bonus)
B SS Payne (Run Coverage
B WR Knox (Deep Threat)
B WR Hester (Speed Burner)
B DT Harris (Rip)
B DE Brown (Run Coverage)
B TE Olsen (Speed Burner)

[mKoz26]

Quote: Originally Posted by TWOSILK

would anyone have a problem with Tim Tebow with speed burner, I know that he doesn't technically have that type of speed, but in this game that is the only way to make him a decent runner, if it is a problem then no biggie, just wanted everyones opinion.

That sounds fine for him. He's fast for a QB.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by TWOSILK

count me in, a couple of questions do the teams that you assemble have to be a real team, i understand that they should be based off of real players, but like are we allowing all time teams, like the all time gators, bucs, and things like that? secondly can it be a mix of caps, and legends, or just all cap teams, either way count me in, just thinking of having chris leak hand the ball off to Emmitt Smith or to have Brandon Spikes scraping off of Jack youngblood to make a play, oh the possiblities

Legends can be used. The only catch is they can't have any of the illegal abilities. If they have a ability that illegal, then they can't be used.

Any kind of team is allowed, all time, your fav players, etc. As long as it is made with realism in mind.

Quote: Originally Posted by TWOSILK

would anyone have a problem with Tim Tebow with speed burner, I know that he doesn't technically have that type of speed, but in this game that is the only way to make him a decent runner, if it is a problem then no biggie, just wanted everyones opinion.

Speed burner is a ability that is per position. So if you give a QB speed burner and give a HB speed burner. The HB will still be way faster. It just means they are very fast for their position. I would label Tebow fast for his position. So with that said, I think it will give him some character of his real traits.

Quote: Originally Posted by mKoz26

I'm in. Bears: G CB Tillman (Bump Master, Strength Bonus, Ball Hawk) G LB Briggs (Run Coverage, Coverage Bonus, Big Hit) S HB Forte (Break Away Burst, Ankle Breaker) S QB Cutler (Rocket Arm, Scrambler) S DE Ogunleye (Spin, Pass Rush Bonus) B SS Payne (Run Coverage B WR Knox (Deep Threat) B WR Hester (Speed Burner) B DT Harris (Rip) B DE Brown (Run Coverage) B TE Olsen (Speed Burner)

Wow I got to kick your bear's *** again ....glad to see ya in mkoz

[Rocky]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

Sorry rocky not going to do that. Now finesse and power are worth discussing but the others are out for a reason. Trust me Laser arm the zip on it is way to unrealistic.

Unrealistic compared to what? Guys like Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. are known for fittin the ball in tight spaces.

My current Panther squad doesn't have a player with these abilities. Nonetheless I want to be a little scared facing the Mannings, Petersons, Fitzgeralds, etc. Closing speed doesn't even capture the way Ed Reed flies to the ball. Reggie Wayne flips db's around just like th route god ability. I understand that these abilities can get abused. But the is no reason that stars shouln't have them.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocky

Unrealistic compared to what? Guys like Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. are known for fittin the ball in tight spaces. My current Panther squad doesn't have a player with these abilities. Nonetheless I want to be a little scared facing the Mannings, Petersons, Fitzgeralds, etc. Closing speed doesn't even capture the way Ed Reed flies to the ball. Reggie Wayne flips db's around just like th route god ability. I understand that these abilities can get abused. But the is no reason that stars shouln't have them.

Rocky if you don't agree then I don't know what to tell you. This is how I am going to run it, it is how i ran my NFL leagues and all the stats and everything matched almost perfect to real life stats at the end of the season.

So while you might not agree. I know/have proof of what these abilities can do to the game and the stats.

Plus I wanted to touch on the notion of "fitting in tight spaces". It is not the accuracy that is the issue. The charge up throw of Laser arm puts way to much zip on the ball in relation to the speed the players are moving.

You will still fear a Gold QB even though he does not have that ability and I could go on and on about each ability but i did that in another thread already.

The bottom line is if you like those abilities, just play in Kaseys ladder with the stock legends and use players with that ability. If you can come in with a open mind and trust what I am doing then please do.