Why isn't margin of victory calculated?

[olliethebum85]

I know you don't want teams running up the score like OU did last year, but they could still fit it into the formulas with maybe a 14 or 21 point cap. It would at least make 1 point victories over FCS schools count against you and not count for you the same as a 50 point win.

I know at one point it was, but the people who make the formulas were forced to remove it or were kicked from the BCS all together.

[MassNole]

It was removed in 2000 after FSU made the BCSCG despite losing to Miami (funny it was disregarded Miami lost to Washington). That season FSU ran up the score against inferior teams such as Florida and Miami was punished for playing a FCS school. But instead of doing something intelligent like seeing if it was a fluke they messed with the formula to the point it always insures a SEC team gets into the BCSCG even if there are viable teams from other conferences.

The BCS has been broken since day one and it only gets worse every year.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by MassNole

It was removed in 2000 after FSU made the BCSCG despite losing to Miami (funny it was disregarded Miami lost to Washington). That season FSU ran up the score against inferior teams such as Florida and Miami was punished for playing a FCS school. But instead of doing something intelligent like seeing if it was a fluke they messed with the formula to the point it always insures a SEC team gets into the BCSCG even if there are viable teams from other conferences. The BCS has been broken since day one and it only gets worse every year.

Agreed it screws everybody. People love talking about Tebow 2 MNC wins ,but two me it means nothing. Even LSU(my rooting team) MNC means nothing.

[canes21]

I wish they would get rid of the BCS. I know the BCS is better than what we had, but its still extremely bad.

When I rank teams personally I look at strength of schedule paired with the record and how they won. I then look at how the teams are doing they beat and factor it in. If LSU barely beats Florida who was number one at the time, but Florida continues to lose here and there after that game and finished 8-4 or 9-3 then I drop LSU, currently the BCS would keep them ranked number 1.

People may disagree on that, but thats how I feel teams would get represented the most accurately.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

I wish they would get rid of the BCS. I know the BCS is better than what we had, but its still extremely bad. When I rank teams personally I look at strength of schedule paired with the record and how they won. I then look at how the teams are doing they beat and factor it in. If LSU barely beats Florida who was number one at the time, but Florida continues to lose here and there after that game and finished 8-4 or 9-3 then I drop LSU, currently the BCS would keep them ranked number 1. People may disagree on that, but thats how I feel teams would get represented the most accurately.

Yeah its like choosing Flu's. The regular flu or the swine variety.

[lilbently]

I dont like margin of victory. Say it Team A dominates team B defensively and holds them to under 50 yards of total offense and causes 6 turnovers. But the final score is 14-3. Looking at the score it doesnt look like a blowout when reality it was.

Now say if Team A beats Team B 58-35. Now they won by 23 points but the game was in fact more balanced. But just basing it on margin of victory Team A's win would look better, when in reality it wasnt.

I think its just a touchy issue, and some teams just dont blowout teams (Ohio State) Look at the 02 Buckeyes who won the national championship, if margin of victory was counted then the Buckeyes would of been hurting because they didnt beat teams by a lot.

[MassNole]

Quote: Originally Posted by lilbently

I dont like margin of victory. Say it Team A dominates team B defensively and holds them to under 50 yards of total offense and causes 6 turnovers. But the final score is 14-3. Looking at the score it doesnt look like a blowout when reality it was. Now say if Team A beats Team B 58-35. Now they won by 23 points but the game was in fact more balanced. But just basing it on margin of victory Team A's win would look better, when in reality it wasnt. I think its just a touchy issue, and some teams just dont blowout teams (Ohio State) Look at the 02 Buckeyes who won the national championship, if margin of victory was counted then the Buckeyes would of been hurting because they didnt beat teams by a lot.

In 2002 tOSU would have been fine since only they and Miami finished undefeated. Back then losses counted much more against teams than they do now.

Really they need to merge FBS and FCS and have a huge playoff. If they get a $1b for a basketball tournament, the sky is the limit for a football tournament. Sure with Basketball we debate who #65 should have been, bit it isn't like that team was going to win the National Championship. In football when there is a big debate as to who #2 in a 2 team playoff should be it sure as hell effects the national championship.

The problem with margin of victory was big in 1994 before the BCS when Penn State dropped for not running up the score on Indiana. Thing is I'd rather have that old system than the BCS crap we have now.

[jts20]

Nooooo BCS is better. Back before the BCS teams just honered their bowl tie ins. So what if there were two undefeated teams, #1 Alabama and #2 USC. Well Bama crushes Cinci in the Sugar Bowl and USC crushed tOSU in the Rose Bowl. What happens then? We're better off with ATLEAST having a title game between two top ranked teams that are chosen by a controversial computer system.

It is like choosing between the regular flu and swine flu though, like someone stated earlier.

[AUChase89]

As a fan I've been on the receiving end of a BCS **** over. That year, our margin of victory wasn't great, but we were a good team.

I don't think margin of victory shows that much, honestly..

Who's hot at the right time ?

[J-Unit40]

Quote: Originally Posted by MassNole

It was removed in 2000 after FSU made the BCSCG despite losing to Miami (funny it was disregarded Miami lost to Washington). That season FSU ran up the score against inferior teams such as Florida and Miami was punished for playing a FCS school. But instead of doing something intelligent like seeing if it was a fluke they messed with the formula to the point it always insures a SEC team gets into the BCSCG even if there are viable teams from other conferences. The BCS has been broken since day one and it only gets worse every year.

Somebody is still jealous of the #1 school in Florida.

Your comments are quite predictable and you still live in the 1990s. Congrats.

As for the topic of discussion, computing MOV in a realistic fashion would be pretty tough as some of you pointed out and would only further entice team to maximize their "style points".