Leg Kick Check

[johnmangala]

Leg kick checks should get a similar treatment that body kick catches got imo.

The leg kicks are underutilized at the highest levels due to this currently. There is extreme punishment for leg kicks just for holding low block.

EA UFC 3 is a punching game at its core at the moment. Opening up the striking would do wonders for balance and realism as the current primarily punching meta does not reflect reality.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Leg Kick Check

Leg kick checks should get a similar treatment that body kick catches got imo.

The leg kicks are underutilized at the highest levels due to this currently. There is extreme punishment for leg kicks just for holding low block.

EA UFC 3 is a punching game at its core at the moment. Opening up the striking would do wonders for balance and realism as the current primarily punching meta does not reflect reality.

Yep. The leg kick check is a problem, especially with guys who flick high block low block. I try to kick when they throw Overhands or if they try to throw a head kick so I get a leg health event.

[johnmangala]

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It would be interesting if both got a new input like the old parry input but that is far fetched at this point. So having leg kick checks have the same or similar feel to the body kick catch now is a better option.

[RomeroXVII]

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^

It would be interesting if both got a new input like the old parry input but that is far fetched at this point. So having leg kick checks have the same or similar feel to the body kick catch now is a better option.

Having it by level like how ZombieRommel suggested it for body kick catches would be good. Tired of my Aldo Leg Kicks getting checked by a McGregor who's constantly rubbing his nipples and his belly.

[RetractedMonkey]

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This isn’t a problem with leg kick checks, it’s a problem with high-low block being abused. The effectiveness of just randomly going back and forth is too high. Against players who don’t do that, there is no issue.

Halve the effectiveness of the block and take away all checking and catching if someone switches high-low more than once in that split second time frame.

To say leg kicks aren’t used in high levels is accurate, but not because they get checked. It’s because they serve less purpose in a three round fight. If you’re fighting a good player, you have to be judicious in order to get both legs down before the end of the third. In a five rounder, there is more leniency.

However, if you actually time your leg kicks correctly, you can increase the damage and still make them effective in a three rounder. You can also use the push for a free leg kick every time.

I accepted the catch kick nerf because it made sense realistically and gameplay wise because of the levels even though getting your kicks caught shouldn’t be an issue if you’re any good at the game.

Nerfing leg kick checks is something I cannot abide. If you have any issue landing consistent leg kicks against someone not abusing the block, you have greater issues.

I will play anyone and I will land 10 leg kicks in the first round unchecked to show you how easy it is.


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[RomeroXVII]

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This isn’t a problem with leg kick checks, it’s a problem with high-low block being abused. The effectiveness of just randomly going back and forth is too high. Against players who don’t do that, there is no issue.

Halve the effectiveness of the block and take away all checking and catching if someone switches high-low more than once in that split second time frame.

To say leg kicks aren’t used in high levels is accurate, but not because they get checked. It’s because they serve less purpose in a three round fight. If you’re fighting a good player, you have to be judicious in order to get both legs down before the end of the third. In a five rounder, there is more leniency.

However, if you actually time your leg kicks correctly, you can increase the damage and still make them effective in a three rounder. You can also use the push for a free leg kick every time.

I accepted the catch kick nerf because it made sense realistically and gameplay wise because of the levels even though getting your kicks caught shouldn’t be an issue if you’re any good at the game.

Nerfing leg kick checks is something I cannot abide. If you have any issue landing consistent leg kicks against someone not abusing the block, you have greater issues.

I will play anyone and I will land 10 leg kicks in the first round unchecked to show you how easy it is.


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I leg kick pretty well. The high block low block is still pretty annoying though, I'm aboard for that idea you have.

Did not know about the push free leg kick though!

[UFCBlackbelt]

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The best time for leg kicks so far depends on your opponent's patterns. If a player throws a blocked 1-2 and then backs up I usually toss a stationary leg kick. Also using side movement with leg kicking helps. If they focus on low block I'll throw feints or straights to their face.

[GrimLeiper]

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I recall trying to take out someone's leg doing this high-low block but it definitely isn't worth it.

Start throwing 1-2s and try to get them to just block high. I've had more success doing this when against that nonsense.

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[johnmangala]

Re: Leg Kick Check

This isn’t a problem with leg kick checks, it’s a problem with high-low block being abused. The effectiveness of just randomly going back and forth is too high. Against players who don’t do that, there is no issue.

Halve the effectiveness of the block and take away all checking and catching if someone switches high-low more than once in that split second time frame.

To say leg kicks aren’t used in high levels is accurate, but not because they get checked. It’s because they serve less purpose in a three round fight. If you’re fighting a good player, you have to be judicious in order to get both legs down before the end of the third. In a five rounder, there is more leniency.

However, if you actually time your leg kicks correctly, you can increase the damage and still make them effective in a three rounder. You can also use the push for a free leg kick every time.

I accepted the catch kick nerf because it made sense realistically and gameplay wise because of the levels even though getting your kicks caught shouldn’t be an issue if you’re any good at the game.

Nerfing leg kick checks is something I cannot abide. If you have any issue landing consistent leg kicks against someone not abusing the block, you have greater issues.

I will play anyone and I will land 10 leg kicks in the first round unchecked to show you how easy it is.


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I am asking for leg kick checks to behave more like body kick catches now.

[RetractedMonkey]

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I am asking for leg kick checks to behave more like body kick catches now.

I know exactly what you're asking for. That is a leg check nerf inherently. It's not necessary. Time your kicks better.

[Phillyboi207]

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I know exactly what you're asking for. That is a leg check nerf inherently. It's not necessary. Time your kicks better.

Wouldnt it be a buff for people with higher level kicks tho?

So your Aldo/Overeems would be better but using leg kicks with Khabib wouldnt be as effective.

[johnmangala]

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I know exactly what you're asking for. That is a leg check nerf inherently. It's not necessary. Time your kicks better.

Leg kicks are too easy to check this is undisputed.

[RetractedMonkey]

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Leg kicks are too easy to check this is undisputed.

You can’t just say something and then add “it’s undisputed” like it makes it true.

You are very obviously bad at the game, you’ve been asking for horrible changes for months now and I’m glad none of them have made it in except for the body kick catch (which even still, wasn’t exactly what you were asking for).

I make the challenge to show anyone what is up in game every time I make the assertion that it is a skill problem but you guys never take me up because you know you’d get exposed. You’d know exactly what I’m going for and you’d still get leg kicked to death.

The only guy to ever actually put their money where their mouth is is Phillyboi. (Not counting Romero because he isn’t actually disagreeing with me and I’m on a different console).


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[RetractedMonkey]

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Wouldnt it be a buff for people with higher level kicks tho?



So your Aldo/Overeems would be better but using leg kicks with Khabib wouldnt be as effective.

Yes, but I don’t think it needs a buff either. They are totally fine. Leg kicks are the core part of my game. Going by the narrative this board has created you’d think I’d want them to be buffed just to help me win matches. But it’s not true. It’s not what’s best for the game. What’s best is for people to stop complaining and get better.


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[Phillyboi207]

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Yes, but I don’t think it needs a buff either. They are totally fine. Leg kicks are the core part of my game. Going by the narrative this board has created you’d think I’d want them to be buffed just to help me win matches. But it’s not true. It’s not what’s best for the game. What’s best is for people to stop complaining and get better.


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Hmm

I think from a gameplay perspective you’re right. It’s fairly balanced and is fine the way it is.

But I do like the idea of poor kickers being less effective with them and the more dangerous kickers being even better