Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

[RomeroXVII]

I know the GPD and others managed to slow down the Jab Spin Kick and mostly all of the other variants.

The only other variants that has not been slowed down, is the Oblique Kick to Spin Kick, especially with Max Holloway. If you try to defend the Oblique with low block you are devastatingly prone to an spinning head kick, and the speed that this comes out at is absolutely insane.

What are the odds of the speed getting reduced to the speed of the regular jab spin kick?

[Papadoc60]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

I know the GPD and others managed to slow down the Jab Spin Kick and mostly all of the other variants.

The only other variants that has not been slowed down, is the Oblique Kick to Spin Kick, especially with Max Holloway. If you try to defend the Oblique with low block you are devastatingly prone to an spinning head kick, and the speed that this comes out at is absolutely insane.

What are the odds of the speed getting reduced to the speed of the regular jab spin kick?

Yeah this combo is ridiculous and unrealistic currently lol

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

Yeah this combo is ridiculous and unrealistic currently lol

Also the oblique kick to Body Jab Spin Kick. Although the speed on it is normal I believe so I can live with it.

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[Solid_Altair]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

Thanks for these reports, guys.


IMO, any blocked LOW attack should a hard combo.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

Thanks for these reports, guys.


IMO, any blocked LOW attack should a hard combo.

???? Probably a typo.

And also, if you block (low block the oblique kick) the spin kick/body spin kick still comes out and lands for free.

[UFCBlackbelt]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

But how will sp_the_ghost survive when you take away his best weapons? Let me guess- next you want to tune down the double under takedown counter window to be more realistic too!?

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

Sorry guys not related but do you think it's realistic for a fighter who throws a head kick, which is blocked, ( in a previous update GA was given to the fighter who blocked ) to block a takedown by the fighter who blocked the head kick ?

Yes I know perhaps the timing of the takedown or type of the takedown matters . But I think this should be an undeniable takedown if timed right .

@RomeroVII any thoughts ?

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[RomeroXVII]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

But how will sp_the_ghost survive when you take away his best weapons? Let me guess- next you want to tune down the double under takedown counter window to be more realistic too!?

Lol! Oh that guy I don't worry about the TD Counters because I know how to hit the undeniable TDs. If I have Edgar he's not a problem. It's when it's an Aldo vs Holloway match up that it's troubling since Aldo is a grappler second despite being a BJJ World Champ.

Also, there's a problem with trying to side lunge the knee and the knee targets the head AND damages the stamina, I already showed the video to Martial so hopefully that bug gets fixed. Another bug is shooting a double and having a single leg come out contextually so that is another bug that was confirmed.

However, thank you for reminding me. Personally I like the TD Counters, but- there should be a slight Stam drain for using the TD Counter depending on how much GA the opponent had when you do the counter as a way of balancing it. Also, the amount of TD Defense should affect the amount of drain it does as well. forget everything said here, TD Counters do cost stamina

A TD Counter from José Aldo and Tyron Woodley should be rather effortless and cost basically nothing rather than one from say, Yair Rodríguez, Conor, Max etc.

EDIT: They do cost stamina.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

Sorry guys not related but do you think it's realistic for a fighter who throws a head kick, which is blocked, ( in a previous update GA was given to the fighter who blocked ) to block a takedown by the fighter who blocked the head kick ?

Yes I know perhaps the timing of the takedown or type of the takedown matters . But I think this should be an undeniable takedown if timed right .

@RomeroVII any thoughts ?

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I think the single leg should be extra effective off of a blocked leg kick, the best shot tends to be the low single if they back off after the blocked head kick, you see guys like Advaita and Papadoc get it all the time and it's almost undeniable.

If it's a guy with like a 92+ TD Defense I can somewhat allow it, but not if it's a guy with TD Defense in the 80s I agree it is annoying. The undeniable TDs are your best friend, trust me. You wanna take dudes down, invest in the guys with 90+ TDs and a double leg.


On that topic though, there should be an undeniable single leg animation as well.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

True ,true I like that idea ...also I think I high level spinning kick delivered naked which is blocked should throw the fighter of balance a bit ( not just return to his stance ) but he ought to reset a bit and return to his stance . Not constantly but perhaps a bit often.

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[UFCBlackbelt]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

I think the single leg should be extra effective off of a blocked leg kick, the best shot tends to be the low single if they back off after the blocked head kick, you see guys like Advaita and Papadoc get it all the time and it's almost undeniable.

If it's a guy with like a 92+ TD Defense I can somewhat allow it, but not if it's a guy with TD Defense in the 80s I agree it is annoying. The undeniable TDs are your best friend, trust me. You wanna take dudes down, invest in the guys with 90+ TDs and a double leg.


On that topic though, there should be an undeniable single leg animation as well.

Can u pm me the details with undeniablesnagain? And how do u deal with leg kicking and oblique kicks like Advaita? He ruins me with Romero

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Oblique-Spin Kicks Speed

What other strikes can be done of the oblique kick ?

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