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Old 08-21-2016, 02:27 PM   #17
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Re: Mike Lowe Madden 17 Sliders

Played one game with these last night. Not sure a good way to post box scores with mobile so I won't try that.

-User run game felt too easy. Broke a 50+ yard run with Ryan Mathews and two 40+ with Sproles.

-I do a lot of quick short passes so hard for me to judge passing in that aspect. I did go long twice and completed both.

-CPU missed passes they should and hit ones they should. Probably a little too accurate, gonna try to lower that.

-CPU didn't run much period and when they did it was shut down.

-Score was 26-10 after the first quarter.

-RBs seemed to switch well for me but not sure about them since they really didn't run.

-Seemed to be a decent amount of penalties. A few many false starts on CPU though. Had my corner that was beat called for PI. The animation looked so good!

-I didn't actually see any blocks in back.

-Saw only one dropped pass.

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Old 08-21-2016, 09:33 PM   #18
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Just started up a franchise mode with these sliders as the Browns. Simmed through the preseason and played week 1 vs the Eagles.
I won 25-20. I had 364 yards compared to the Eagles 325 yards. If Carson Wentz wasnt starting I bet I would've got torched because I saw a bunch of open receivers that he just wouldn't throw too.
I'm gonna keep playing and hopefully I see a good QB to play against and see if he throws to open receivers more often.
There were only 8 combined penalties in my game so penalties could see an increase to be honest if we want to get on average with the NFL.
There were a couple big plays were a player would break a couple tackles which was great to see. The scoring drives were really scoring drives and took up time.
I agree that I'm not seeing enough dropped balls either. There wasn't a single one in my game.
There were a total of 132 plays in my game.
The number of yards and everything seems very accurate to real life.
Carson threw for 65%
RG3 threw for 53%

Just some of the things I saw from my game hopefully that can help adjust for the greater good.
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Old 08-22-2016, 12:15 AM   #19
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Just started up a franchise mode with these sliders as the Browns. Simmed through the preseason and played week 1 vs the Eagles.
I won 25-20. I had 364 yards compared to the Eagles 325 yards. If Carson Wentz wasnt starting I bet I would've got torched because I saw a bunch of open receivers that he just wouldn't throw too.
I'm gonna keep playing and hopefully I see a good QB to play against and see if he throws to open receivers more often.
There were only 8 combined penalties in my game so penalties could see an increase to be honest if we want to get on average with the NFL.
There were a couple big plays were a player would break a couple tackles which was great to see. The scoring drives were really scoring drives and took up time.
I agree that I'm not seeing enough dropped balls either. There wasn't a single one in my game.
There were a total of 132 plays in my game.
The number of yards and everything seems very accurate to real life.
Carson threw for 65%
RG3 threw for 53%

Just some of the things I saw from my game hopefully that can help adjust for the greater good.
Keep in mind that the goal of this set is to match the simulation engine. The simmed games rarely have dropped balls, yet this still have QBs in the 60-66% passing range, typically.

You'll see similar things such as broken tackles--you should not be seeing a ton of statistical broken tackles--the AI teams don't generate more than a few in a given week when being simmed.
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:15 PM   #20
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Re: Mike Lowe Madden 17 Sliders

With sub out/in set to 0/1 do you finally see your offensive line staying on the field the entire game?
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Old 08-22-2016, 07:05 PM   #21
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In 2020, Bills were 81, Jets were 80. Bills were missing starting QB and WR. Jets lost QB and WR halfway through. Felt good, 4 fumbles total. Only 2 BTK logged, both by CPU RB. Their D was scary good and kicked my butt. Good game, CPU RB couldve been better with his 93 SPD and 82 OVR. Thanks for the early sliders.


Buffalo Bills at New York Jets
Jan 1, 1ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Buffalo Bills (0-0)010101434
New York Jets (0-0)377724
Team Stats Comparison
BUFNYJ
Total Offense250391
Rushing Yards100120
Passing Yards150271
First Downs1118
Punt Return Yards1241
Kick Return Yards6391
Total Yards325523
Turnovers15
3rd Down Converstion6-154-11
4th Down Conversion0-00-1
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals22
Penalties4-305-54
Posession Time30:2829:32
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ
(NYJ) T. Coons 27 YD FG03
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ
(BUF) K. Roland 1 YD Run, Vernon Kicks73
(BUF) A. Vernon 37 YD FG103
(NYJ) J.Jenkins Returned Fumble 37 Yrds, T.Coon Kicks1010
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ
(BUF) A. Vernon 55 Yrd FG1310
(BUF) J.Spence Returned INT 28 Yds, A Vernon Kicks2010
(NYJ) J. Strong 31 Yd Pass from Kaepernick, T. Coons Kicks2017
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ
(BUF) K .Roland 7 YD Run, A Vernon Kicks2717
(BUF) K. Roland 52 Yrd Pass from T. Thorpe, A Vernon Kicks3417
(NYJ) D. Fajardo 1 Yd Pass from C. Kaepernick, T. Coons Kicks3424
Buffalo Bills
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
C. Kaepernick11/1515022
R. Jones13/1914902
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
C. Prosise21874.10
C. Kaepernick33411.30
S. Ware1770
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
J. Amaro67312.10
C. Prosise5244.80
D. Poindexter45714.20
J. Strong366221
E. Decker24120.50
D. Fajardo1111
K. Leroy111110
S. Ware1770
G. Merriman119190
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
T. Jackson1
D. Smith1
S. Mason1
V. LaBoy1
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
B. Carrie13000
S. Richardson3200
Jo. Jenkins8100
Je. Jenkins6001
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
T. Coons1/23/3627
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
L. Edwards313143.60
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
J. Herron25125.50
J. Blaylock240200
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
C. Thibodeaux24120.50
New York Jets
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
T. Thorpe17/2616710
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
K. Roland30872.92
T. Riddick21050
T. Thorpe231.50
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
M. Peterson6467.60
M. Young 3165.30
C. CLay2115.50
T. Riddick222110
D. Wooden2136.50
K. Roland25929.51
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
M. Lambert10
C. Glenn01
C. Clay01
J. Goodrich01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
S. Lawson10100
J. Bright8010
L. Bradfield7020
J. Spence5011
R. Ragland61.500
M. Dareus2100
J. Hughes5.500
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
A. Vernon2/24/41055
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
C. Schmidt5240482
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
M. Young363210
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
M. Peterson112120

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Old 08-22-2016, 07:44 PM   #22
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Re: Mike Lowe Madden 17 Sliders

Updated quite a few things. Still working on more testing.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:43 PM   #23
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Re: Mike Lowe Madden 17 Sliders

Thank you for this, Iceman. I think the most recent changes will produce even better results. I feel even more confident saying that after seeing your box score!

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In 2020, Bills were 81, Jets were 80. Bills were missing starting QB and WR. Jets lost QB and WR halfway through. Felt good, 4 fumbles total. Only 2 BTK logged, both by CPU RB. Their D was scary good and kicked my butt. Good game, CPU RB couldve been better with his 93 SPD and 82 OVR. Thanks for the early sliders.


Buffalo Bills at New York Jets
Jan 1, 1ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Buffalo Bills (0-0)010101434
New York Jets (0-0)377724
Team Stats Comparison

BUFNYJ
Total Offense250391
Rushing Yards100120
Passing Yards150271
First Downs1118
Punt Return Yards1241
Kick Return Yards6391
Total Yards325523
Turnovers15
3rd Down Converstion6-154-11
4th Down Conversion0-00-1
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals22
Penalties4-305-54
Posession Time30:2829:32
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ

(NYJ) T. Coons 27 YD FG03
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ

(BUF) K. Roland 1 YD Run, Vernon Kicks73

(BUF) A. Vernon 37 YD FG103

(NYJ) J.Jenkins Returned Fumble 37 Yrds, T.Coon Kicks1010
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ

(BUF) A. Vernon 55 Yrd FG1310

(BUF) J.Spence Returned INT 28 Yds, A Vernon Kicks2010

(NYJ) J. Strong 31 Yd Pass from Kaepernick, T. Coons Kicks2017
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGBUFNYJ

(BUF) K .Roland 7 YD Run, A Vernon Kicks2717

(BUF) K. Roland 52 Yrd Pass from T. Thorpe, A Vernon Kicks3417

(NYJ) D. Fajardo 1 Yd Pass from C. Kaepernick, T. Coons Kicks3424
Buffalo Bills
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
C. Kaepernick11/1515022
R. Jones13/1914902
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
C. Prosise21874.10
C. Kaepernick33411.30
S. Ware1770
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
J. Amaro67312.10
C. Prosise5244.80
D. Poindexter45714.20
J. Strong366221
E. Decker24120.50
D. Fajardo1111
K. Leroy111110
S. Ware1770
G. Merriman119190
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
T. Jackson
1
D. Smith
1
S. Mason
1
V. LaBoy
1
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
B. Carrie13000
S. Richardson3200
Jo. Jenkins8100
Je. Jenkins6001
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
T. Coons1/23/3627
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
L. Edwards313143.60
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
J. Herron25125.50
J. Blaylock240200
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
C. Thibodeaux24120.50
New York Jets
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
T. Thorpe17/2616710
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
K. Roland30872.92
T. Riddick21050
T. Thorpe231.50
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
M. Peterson6467.60
M. Young 3165.30
C. CLay2115.50
T. Riddick222110
D. Wooden2136.50
K. Roland25929.51
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
M. Lambert10
C. Glenn01
C. Clay01
J. Goodrich01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
S. Lawson10100
J. Bright8010
L. Bradfield7020
J. Spence5011
R. Ragland61.500
M. Dareus2100
J. Hughes5.500
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
A. Vernon2/24/41055
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
C. Schmidt5240482
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
M. Young363210
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
M. Peterson112120
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:09 PM   #24
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Keep in mind that the goal of this set is to match the simulation engine. The simmed games rarely have dropped balls, yet this still have QBs in the 60-66% passing range, typically.

You'll see similar things such as broken tackles--you should not be seeing a ton of statistical broken tackles--the AI teams don't generate more than a few in a given week when being simmed.
I played game two against the Ravens again with the Browns and I won 35-27. I was down early in the game and I couldn't stop the run game and Forsett ended up with 145 yards rushing. I felt like I was able to move the ball with too much ease however. The numbers are very realistic and I like it I just feel like with me using the Browns I need more of a challenge and should not be 2-0.

I'm going to try your new slider set and see if that makes a difference or I may use these same sliders but just jump the difficulty up to All-Madden so it makes things just a little bit more difficult for me and the Browns will play like the Browns.
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