As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

[Blazzen]

Here's another great example of horrible QB play.

Cam Newton gets out of the pocket, breaks a tackle and has nothing but green ahead of him to run and instead throws across his body 30 yards downfield for a pick.

Horrible CPU AI. Won't be buying unless they fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQK8...tu.be&t=17m23s

[extremeskins04]

Can someone tell me if they've seen any other QB's besides Cam Newton throw across their body like that when they're running toward the LOS? I swear I've only seen videos of Cam doing it but I may be wrong.

Also, someone with the full game, can you list Cam's QB traits?

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

So, with the retail version, is it the issue the same as in the EA Access version? We are getting reports it's improved with a patch? I meant, Qb's standing in the pocket like statues and not taking off.

Quote: Originally Posted by extremeskins04

Yea I think the issue with QB's scrambling but when they get to the LOS, they throw back across their body like that is more frustrating than anything else.

I can't speak to the EA Access version, the only thing I've played is the full version so I'm not sure. It's something that's been noticeable from the beginning though. Here's the play I mentioned earlier from Cam:

Spoiler

Could have very likely had the first down there and you can also see a bit of the statue nature at the beginning.

Another issue I've seen a bunch is on screens. When they run them correctly the screens are great for the CPU but it seems like it's 50-50 on whether or not they actually throw the ball. The Panthers ran two in the game I just played and both resulted in sacks:

Spoiler

Spoiler

Screens are a play that IMO I don't think should ever result in sacks so if anything there I'd rather see him chuck the ball 20 rows out of bounds than ever take a sack.

There was another play where Cam did a great job of avoiding my user rusher and looked like he was going to scramble but ended up running right to a defender and also again tried to throw right as he got to the LOS:

Spoiler

And then here's one last one that's just a basic statue sack:

Spoiler

Not a terrible one but just no movement at all. When it happens on All-Pro it doesn't look anywhere near as bad as it does on All-Madden and it's likely because user pass rush is much better on All-Pro so there's not as much time to throw or for them to stand around. There's plays on All-Madden where they'll get 7 or more seconds to just stand there with no pressure whatsoever so oddly enough it's more of an issue on All-Madden.

Another thing I've noticed is that in a lot of the clips I've recorded of it happening it's on four verticals and curl flats which isn't really surprising I guess but it's been a common theme on more than a few of them.

Quote: Originally Posted by SyncereBlackout

Thank you for pointing out all madden was played with default sliders. The same for all pro correct? I hope others that post data when the game is released also outline their settings so the fix can be replicated consistently. Based on your feedback and EAs promise to tune modes independently I'm extremely tempted to completely ignore a lot of sliders for the promise of proper tuning

Correct. I've wanted to switch sliders up but have held off because it seems pointless at this point when there is likely going to be major changes to defense coming. But every game I've played has been Play Now on default All-Madden or All-Pro and I totally agree with what you're saying. On Simulation I'd like to see QB Accuracy tuned way down to the point where the base 50 creates a ton more inaccuracies among all QB's. At 50 right now I feel like there's no reason to even consider going anything over that and if I was making changes the first thing I would do is knock it down to at least 25. There's a few here and there but most incompletions are drops from my experience.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Quote: Originally Posted by extremeskins04

Can someone tell me if they've seen any other QB's besides Cam Newton throw across their body like that when they're running toward the LOS? I swear I've only seen videos of Cam doing it but I may be wrong. Also, someone with the full game, can you list Cam's QB traits?

I saw Dak, Tyrod, Russell and Mariota do it as well in all the games I played.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by extremeskins04

Can someone tell me if they've seen any other QB's besides Cam Newton throw across their body like that when they're running toward the LOS? I swear I've only seen videos of Cam doing it but I may be wrong. Also, someone with the full game, can you list Cam's QB traits?

I've seen Wilson and Rodgers do it just off the top of my head. I know it's happened more than a few times to me though.

And here's Cam's traits:

[bcruise]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

I've seen Wilson and Rodgers do it just off the top of my head. I know it's happened more than a few times to me though. And here's Cam's traits:

Glad you mentioned this because Cam having the "Balanced" trait seems a bit odd to me. Maybe the game expects him to get his yards through option plays?

For reference, he was Scrambling style in M17.

Winston is balanced too, which is who Mill is playing against right now.

[D81SKINS]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

I can't speak to the EA Access version, the only thing I've played is the full version so I'm not sure. It's something that's been noticeable from the beginning though. Here's the play I mentioned earlier from Cam: Spoiler Could have very likely had the first down there and you can also see a bit of the statue nature at the beginning. Another issue I've seen a bunch is on screens. When they run them correctly the screens are great for the CPU but it seems like it's 50-50 on whether or not they actually throw the ball. The Panthers ran two in the game I just played and both resulted in sacks: Spoiler Spoiler Screens are a play that IMO I don't think should ever result in sacks so if anything there I'd rather see him chuck the ball 20 rows out of bounds than ever take a sack. There was another play where Cam did a great job of avoiding my user rusher and looked like he was going to scramble but ended up running right to a defender and also again tried to throw right as he got to the LOS: Spoiler And then here's one last one that's just a basic statue sack: Spoiler Not a terrible one but just no movement at all. When it happens on All-Pro it doesn't look anywhere near as bad as it does on All-Madden and it's likely because user pass rush is much better on All-Pro so there's not as much time to throw or for them to stand around. There's plays on All-Madden where they'll get 7 or more seconds to just stand there with no pressure whatsoever so oddly enough it's more of an issue on All-Madden. Another thing I've noticed is that in a lot of the clips I've recorded of it happening it's on four verticals and curl flats which isn't really surprising I guess but it's been a common theme on more than a few of them. Correct. I've wanted to switch sliders up but have held off because it seems pointless at this point when there is likely going to be major changes to defense coming. But every game I've played has been Play Now on default All-Madden or All-Pro and I totally agree with what you're saying. On Simulation I'd like to see QB Accuracy tuned way down to the point where the base 50 creates a ton more inaccuracies among all QB's. At 50 right now I feel like there's no reason to even consider going anything over that and if I was making changes the first thing I would do is knock it down to at least 25. There's a few here and there but most incompletions are drops from my experience.

Man, can someone send this to Rex!?!

Bring back Tuck & Run Traits, Bring back Fluid traits
See:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...6pq37vVGg5BZjg

[schnaidt1]

can anyone post on how this is after the day 0 patch?? im very curious as i don't want another Madden 15 sack issue that goes unaddressed because the devs say they don't see any issue....

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