GhostBugg's M13 All pro Offline Vikings CCM slider set

[SpectreBugg]

Update 10/02/12.... While I will be leaving these here for everyone, I AM NO LONGER USING THESE. There was an issue with player rushing that I just could not fix. This is a set a worked on for a long time though so there is no reason to assume that they wont work for someone else. I have since moved to testing playmakers base set for All-Pro and am having a lot more luck with adjusting the player rushing ability.

Still in progress.. After the suggestion from BrianU to try using the gameplan pass and run plays instead of just gameplan I am seeing better results from the Player rush. Not only is the play calling more balanced, but I am not running the ball 45 times a game, so the final stats are more realistic. I am still working out a few minor things but this set is very close to being complete.

I redesigned these from my original set. I am making a new post because they are so much different then the original set that updating it didn't seem like the best way to go. I will be deleting my original set soon.

Some basic Rules i play by:

1. I never switch players on defense. i am now playing as my strong safety (original I played as the middle linebacker) and am finding the game much more enjoyable.
2. I do not control my wide receivers. I only use the QB and RB, the CPU controls my receivers before and after the catch.
3. I always use gameplan Pass/rush playcalling. I audible out of broken plays but that is all.
4. I am a die hard vikings fan and never play with any other team.

Sliders:

League settings

Skill level: All-Pro
Quarter length: 15 minutes
Acc clock: ON
Minimum Play clock Time: 11 seconds
Game speed: slow
Player progression: every four weeks
Coach firing: OFF
Game play tuning: on
Auto strafe: ON
Auto sprint: ON
Notes: All-pro plays better then all madden in M13. Actually pro shows promise as well but I just couldnt create sliders that worked well in pro. CLock time is designed to give 120 to 140 plays per game. I like this setting because The computer snaps the ball below 5 seconds on the play clock like I do and it provides, IMO, the most realistic play count and TOP you can get. Auto strafe and auto sprint do make a difference in gameplay for you and the CPU. They need to be ON for this set.

Generic sliders:

Player skill:
QB accuracy.............8
Pass blocking............35
WR catching.............54
Broken tackles..........35
Run Blocking.............22
Fumbles...................5
Pass D Reaction Time..55
Interceptions.............20
Pass rushing..............42
Rush D reaction time...0
block shedding...........32
tackling....................13

CPU Skill:
QB accuracy.............24
Pass blocking............42
WR catching.............53
Broken tackles..........60
Run Blocking.............100
Fumbles...................7
Pass D Reaction Time..73
Interceptions.............37
Pass rushing..............60
Rush D reaction time...84
block shedding...........50
tackling....................40

Special Teams:

FG power.................47
FG accuracy............45
Punt Power..............52
Punt Accuracy..........75
Kickoff power...........51

Game options:

Injuries...................31
Fatigue...................80
Player speed Thrhld...60

Penalties:

Offsides..................53
false start...............61
holding...................54
face mask...............56
D pass INT..............60
O pass INT..............53
Punt catch INT........53
Clipping..................54
INT grounding..........53
Roughing passer.......54
Roughing Kicker........53

Auto subs (in/out)

QB.......................2/0
HB.......................100/99(This is because Adrian peterson's stamina is really high. adjust this to your preference for HB sub in/out)
WR.......................25/20
FB/TE....................15/10
OL........................15/10
DT........................75/70
DE........................75/70
LB.........................15/10
CB.........................15/10
S..........................15/10

Some stats from my current season with these.

current record (8-5) 3rd in NFC North
vs jaguars... W 29-23
at colts...... W 30-27
vs 49ers..... L 24-15
at lions....... W 29-27
vs titans..... W 29-26
at redskins.. W 29-3
vs cardinals. L 30-17
vs Buccaneers W 21-15
at Seahawks. W 45-7
vs Lions........ L 20-6
bye
at Bears........L 38-17
at Packers.....L 27-20
vs Bears........W 31-17

After 13 games

League ranks

points per game.....14th
total offense..........26th
total defense.........1st........30 less yards allowed then broncos (will be more realistic next season)
Off pass................32nd......120 yards less then redskins (more passing now should even this out)
Off rush.................1st.......200 yards ahead of panthers. (should also be fixed next season)
defensive pass........4th
defensive rush.........13th
total yards..............25th
pass TD's...............31st
Rush TD's...............7th
First downs.............7th
Total sacks.............1st.... Tied with broncos (40).
Defensive INT's........19th
3rd down percentage. 11th
Turnover difference..32nd......(-11) 2 behind rams(-9)2nd most giveaways, 4th least takaways

C. Ponder - 64.9 rating, 2,460 yards, 13 TD's. 18 INT's, 180/351 51%, 189.2 YPG

A peterson - 340 att/1,754 yards, 5.2 avg, 11 TD's, 134.9 YPG, 9 fumbles,

T. Gerhart - 59 att/317 yards, 5.4 avg, 5 TD, 24.4 YPG, 1 fumble

P Harvin - 26 catches, 522 yards, 47.5 YPG, 3 TD's

J simpson - 28 catches, 445 yards, 37.1 YPG, 2 TD

K rudolph - 33 catches, 484 yards, 48.4 YPG, 3 TD

D aromashodu - 26 catches, 363 yards, 27.9 YPG, 3 TD's

B robison - 11 sacks

J. Allen - 9 sacks

C. greenway - 6 sacks

K. williams - 5 sacks

L guion - 3 Sacks

Other Players - 6 sacks

harrison smith - 5 INT's

Other Players - 7 INT's (1 each)

Again, any feedback would be great. I will try to update the stats as much and possible throughout the rest of this season and maybe post some box scores as well. thanks you.

[SpectreBugg]

I just wanted to share the stats that i am basing all my testing off of. These stats were taken from the 2011-2012 NFL season for the vikings.

These averages are on a per game basis.

Passing yards
Vikings..........185
Opponents.....251

Rushing yards
Vikings..........145
Opponents.....107

Sacks
Vikings...........3
Oppenents......3

Penalties(this stat was taken from NFL averages, not team averages)
Vikings............6
Opponents.......6

Interceptions
Vikings............(.5)
Opponents.......1

Dropped passes
Vikings............2
Opponents.......2

Injuries
Vikings............3
Opponents.......4

Fumbles
Vikings............(.8)
Opponents.......1.1

I also focused early on playcalling and the number of plays per game and have really had great stats for this. In my current season I have completed 9 games with these sliders, and these are the playcalling stats so far.

average number of offensive plays per game

119.3...... this is almost perfect. This number does not include sacks, FG's, or punts, but if you add those in they are still in the 120 to 140 plays per game.

playcalling stats

CPU pass plays called so far........284
CPU rush plays called so far........244

player gameplan pass plays called......209
player gameplan rush plays called.......336

^^^^ this is still my biggest problem. using gameplan, which I actually like using, has called a lot more rushes for me then passes. Even for a team that is designed to run the ball, like the vikings are, this is way too unbalanced. Any suggestions on how to fix this without calling my own plays would be great, otherwise calling my own plays may be the only option.

[BrianU]

You can move the left stick left or right to have it select just Gameflow Pass or Gameflow Run plays. I think thats the only real option since you can't create custom gameplans in CCM. Maybe have a house rule that you use Gameflow Pass only on plays that are 8+ yards from first down and the rest of time and the rest of time use normal Gameflow

[SpectreBugg]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianU

You can move the left stick left or right to have it select just Gameflow Pass or Gameflow Run plays. I think thats the only real option since you can't create custom gameplans in CCM. Maybe have a house rule that you use Gameflow Pass only on plays that are 8+ yards from first down and the rest of time and the rest of time use normal Gameflow

I tried this in the last 2 games I played and i want to thank you for suggesting it. I never even realized this was an option. I believe this is going to really help in fixing the balance of play calling. Again, thank you very much.

[SpectreBugg]

I am going to post the last 3 bax scores I have after switching to using gameplan pass/rush and gameplan agressive/conservative and a few slider changes. here is the first game against the bears.

Minnesota Vikings at Chicago Bears
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Minnesota Vikings ()	3	0	0	14	17
Chicago Bears ()	0	0	14	24	38

Team Stats Comparison
	MIN	CHI
Total Offense	292	316
Rushing Yards	74	115
Passing Yards	218	201
First Downs	11	10
Punt Return Yards	50	44
Kick Return Yards	64	32
Total Yards	406	392
Turnovers	5	1
3rd Down Converstion	4	6
4th Down Conversion	2	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/1	3/1
Penalties	45	25
Posession Time	28:40	31:20

Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C ponder 22/44 235 2 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD A peterson 16 51 3.2 0 T gerhart 2 11 5.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K Rudolph 6 54 9 1 J wright 3 20 6.7 0 D aromashodu 3 28 9.3 0 J simspon 2 101 50.5 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J allen 3 J brinkley 1 H smith 1

Chicago Bears PASSING C/A YDS TD INT J cutler 18/27 225 3 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M forte 26 118 4.5 2 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD A jeffery 5 89 17.8 2 E bennett 4 34 8.5 0 B marshall 3 34 11.3 0 D hester 3 45 15 0 K davis 1 17 17 0 S larsen 1 1 1 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J peppers 1 F robbins 1 L briggs 1 B hardin 1 M wright 1

The turnovers in the fourth quarter killed. 2 of my 3 INT's were late in the game while I was trying to come from behind. Their defense played well and i should have given the ball to adrian peterson about 10 more times. I was forcing throws with ponder down field and he loses a lot of his accuracy beyond 15 yards or so.

[SpectreBugg]

Game 2

Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Minnesota Vikings ()	7	3	0	10	20
Green Bay Packers ()	0	3	14	10	27

Team Stats Comparison
	MIN	GNB
Total Offense	345	381
Rushing Yards	120	228
Passing Yards	225	153
First Downs	17	15
Punt Return Yards	48	32
Kick Return Yards	55	50
Total Yards	448	463
Turnovers	2	0
3rd Down Converstion	5	1
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2/1	2/1
Penalties	40	0
Posession Time	36:25	23:35

Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C ponder 20/35 248 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD A peterson 21 76 3.6 0 T gerhart 6 28 4.7 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K Rudolph 4 53 13.3 0 J simpson 4 36 9 0 A peterson 4 47 11.8 0 T gerhart 3 42 14 0 D aromashodu 2 30 15 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD C greenway 1 D reed 1

Green Bay Packers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A rodgers 14/22 165 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD C benson 26 207 8 2 J starks 3 12 4 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J nelson 6 75 12.5 0 J finley 3 49 16.3 1 D driver 2 7 3.5 0 G jennings 2 21 10.5 0 J kuhn 1 13 13 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD S shields 1 1 R pickett 1 M jennings 1

My defensive focus cost me the game on this one. I came into the game thinking only about how to stop rodgers and all those wide receivers from destroying my mediocre DB's and somewhat succeeded in doing so. However because of how much I focused on that, I allowed Cedric benson to torch me for 207 yards and 2 touchdowns. It's not easy playing the packers.

[SpectreBugg]

game 3

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Chicago Bears ()	0	7	7	3	17
Minnesota Vikings ()	3	7	0	21	31

Team Stats Comparison
	CHI	MIN
Total Offense	354	434
Rushing Yards	83	238
Passing Yards	271	196
First Downs	17	14
Punt Return Yards	42	66
Kick Return Yards	0	65
Total Yards	396	565
Turnovers	0	1
3rd Down Converstion	6	1
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/1	1/1
Penalties	35	65
Posession Time	30:40	29:20

Chicago Bears PASSING C/A YDS TD INT J cutler 26/47 291 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M forte 22 73 3.3 0 J cutler 1 4 4 1 E rodriguez 1 3 3 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K davis 6 80 13.3 1 A jeffery 5 55 11 0 M forte 4 41 10.3 0 B marshall 2 25 12.5 0 D hester 2 27 13.5 0 E bennett 2 10 5 0 S larson 2 10 5 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD c Tillman 1

Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C ponder 15/26 196 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD A peterson 20 185 9.3 2 T gerhart 6 41 6.8 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD A peterson 5 32 6.4 0 K rudolph 3 102 34 1 J wright 2 10 5 0 T gerhart 1 8 8 0 R ellison 1 14 14 0 J simpson 1 13 13 0 P harvin 1 4 4 0 D aromashodu 1 13 13 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J allen 3

After losing 3 divisional games in a row (lions, bears, Packers) I went up against chicago for the second time in 3 games with the idea that I just needed to get back to playing basic, balanced football. with a perfect balance of 26 runs and 26 passes, and huge plays by Jared Allen with 3 sacks all in the fourth quarter and Adrian peterson with a 63 yard touchdown and a 21 yard touchdown in the fourth quarter, I finally pout another win up. Although I am now 2 - 3 in NFC North games and with the last one being the packers, a divisional win and a playoff spot may not be coming this year.

Current standings in the NFC North
Packers..... 10 - 3 (div 3 - 1)
Lions......... 9 - 4 (div 3 - 2)
Vikings....... 8 - 5 (div 2 - 3)
Bears........ 5 - 8 (div 1 - 3)

[SpectreBugg]

game 4

Minnesota Vikings at St. Louis Rams
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Minnesota Vikings ()	7	3	6	2	18
St. Louis Rams ()	10	17	0	7	34

Team Stats Comparison
	MIN	STL
Total Offense	469	442
Rushing Yards	66	251
Passing Yards	403	191
First Downs	20	18
Punt Return Yards	40	32
Kick Return Yards	128	54
Total Yards	637	528
Turnovers	1	0
3rd Down Converstion	3-12	3-10
4th Down Conversion	0-3	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	0/2	4/2
Penalties	7-74	6-47
Posession Time	32:28	27:22

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		MIN	STL
8:37	(MIN) J wright 23 yd pass from C ponder	7	0
7:11	(STL) S Smith 6 yd pass from S Bradford	7	7
2:08	(STL) O mare 31 yd FG	7	10
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		MIN	STL
12:09	(MIN) B walsh 37 yd FG	10	10
8:26	(STL) S jackson 1 yd run	10	17
1:43	(STL) O mare 25 yd FG	10	20
0:06	(STL) S Smith 1 yd pass from S bradford	10	27
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		MIN	STL
11:43	(MIN) B Walsh 30 yd FG	13	27
1:42	(MIN) B Walsh 35 yd FG	16	27
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		MIN	STL
9:35	(STL) B Quick 12 yd pass from S Bradford	16	34
6:40	(STL) Team Safety	18	34

Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C Ponder 28/47 403 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD A peterson 15 54 3.6 0 T gerhart 1 3 3 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD P harvin 6 122 20.3 0 K rudolph 5 65 13 0 J simpson 4 31 7.7 0 A peterson 3 63 21 0 J wright 3 39 13 1 D aromashodu 3 55 18.3 0 T gerhart 2 12 6 0

St. Louis Rams PASSING C/A YDS TD INT S Bradford 18/27 191 3 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD S jackson 35 239 6.8 1 T ganaway 1 12 12 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K winslow 4 27 6.7 0 B gibson 4 38 9.5 0 B Quick 4 99 24.7 1 S Smith 3 14 4.6 2 S jackson 2 8 4 0 M Mulligan 1 5 5 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD K Langford 1

I dont know if this was a fluke or what but steven jackson ran all over me from start to finish. This would normally have been a shoot out but I went 2 for 5 in the red zone, both field goals, and just couldnt finish my drives. I am going to play the next game without any changes and see if something I did could have had that much effect on gameplay.