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  • kej2u
    Rookie
    • Aug 2006
    • 40

    #1

    Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

    Okay, so I fancy myself a pretty good online Madden player. I'm anti-cheese and I usually shut cheesers down in a heartbeat. As soon as a "Vicker" (as I call them) starts to roll out to exploit the AI, I adjust my defense and soon start racking up the turnovers.

    A caveat though.

    Lately, I've had some trouble with the better Vickers as they use that exploit. I'm now searching for the perfect defensive formation/play + pre-snap adjustments to shut this type of cheese down. Any suggestions?

    Also, I was playing a great game against a guy using the Colts and no matter what defensive adjustments I made, he constantly threw bombs that burned the secondary. What's the best way (play call + pre-snap adjustments + in game play) to shut this down?

    Thanks!
  • ausar72
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1217

    #2
    Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

    "Vickers" huh?

    pretty clever there

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    • JVG
      Rookie
      • Oct 2003
      • 184

      #3
      Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

      I play the Falcons online last nite and at first dude was staying in the pocket and whatnot. I stopped him on his first drive, then I scored. Soon after dude was rolling out of the pocket throwing to his receivers at the last second. So what I soon started doing was blitzing and bumping the receivers making it hard for him to find an open receiver. I also used qb contain from the nickle package so dude wouldnt have a wide open running lane. You just have to pick the the right defensive plays at the right time. And as for the long bombs, if you're not blitzing, put your secondary in a good position in order not to get burned.
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      • born_bad
        MVP
        • Jan 2005
        • 1130

        #4
        Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

        I just start picking CB blitzes if they start rolling out with Vick. I love it because most of the time they run right into the blitz because they don't see it coming.

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        • modelboy
          Pro
          • Jan 2004
          • 807

          #5
          Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

          most vick users roll left to throw right, send heat left, have both safteys deep, and watch the TE or HB coming outta the backfield w/a linebacker or DT(if hes decently fast 65+)

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          • obie
            Rookie
            • Apr 2006
            • 337

            #6
            Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

            Stopping the roll out is not too hard, as long as you have fast DE. I use the Pathers so Peppers can flush Vick out, while the QB spy can contain him. As long as you pick a cover 2 man and drop the coverage back, the DB's will do a great job covering the deep bomb. The only thing I hate about this year is that since you have to have someone over the top in every bomb situation, it leaves the middle open since on crossing routes the DB's get picked non stop.

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            • kej2u
              Rookie
              • Aug 2006
              • 40

              #7
              Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

              Good comments so far, but how about getting even more specific.

              How about suggesting teams, formations, specific plays, and pre-snap adjustments used?

              Thanks!

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              • rrr
                Rookie
                • Sep 2003
                • 54

                #8
                Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

                using fast teams can beat the falcons.(broncos, eagles, redskins)

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                • obie
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 337

                  #9
                  Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

                  Originally posted by rrr
                  using fast teams can beat the falcons.(broncos, eagles, redskins)
                  I don't like using the Broncos because the D-line is extremely slow. Their LB's are crazy fast though.

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                  • Mrcabone
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2251

                    #10
                    Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

                    Originally posted by born_bad
                    I just start picking CB blitzes if they start rolling out with Vick. I love it because most of the time they run right into the blitz because they don't see it coming.
                    Lol ,Ive done that people who use scrambling QB's,it only works a few times a game but it's funny to see them roll right into your blitzing CB.







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                    • mxs737
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 38

                      #11
                      Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

                      For pre-snap adjustments against people that throw the ball deep often, just individually back off on their fastest receiver. A good play for the deep ball is actually the Cover 3, but you have to control the safety that is covering the middle and roam, or else any crosses or deep-ins will kill you.

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                      • kej2u
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 40

                        #12
                        Re: Defending the Vickers and the Deep Ball

                        See my post the Vick Stopper. Sure to work
                        Last edited by kej2u; 10-25-2006, 03:44 PM.

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