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  • #1
    jpdavis82
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    • Sep 2005
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    Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


    THIS cannot happen anymore in Madden

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    roadman
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    • Aug 2003
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    Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


    Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

    That is zig zag running which has been requested to be removed for several years.

    That is one of the top priorities.

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    • #3
      SageInfinite
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      • Jul 2002
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      Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


      Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

      Yeah the whole movement system needs a total overhaul. I mean just look how when he turns back around and moves side to side, there's no planting, just sliding and shuffling.

      Also the way the QB's look when they scramble. A right handed QB does not look like this when they have to scramble to the left. There is no technique in Madden. It looks awful.

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      • #4
        jpdavis82
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        • Sep 2005
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        Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


        Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

        Originally posted by roadman
        That is zig zag running which has been requested to be removed for several years.

        That is one of the top priorities.
        It's not just zig zag running, it's zig zag running AND mind control AI. He controls where everyone on the field is going, even defenders 30 yards behind.

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        • #5
          GiantBlue76
          Banned
          • Jun 2007
          • 3287

          Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


          Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

          Originally posted by jpdavis82
          It's not just zig zag running, it's zig zag running AND mind control AI. He controls where everyone on the field is going, even defenders 30 yards behind.
          AMEN my friend! AMEN! the zig zagging is terrible, but the synchronous movement of all of the other players following him is the REAL killer. Player movement in Madden is so indescribably bad, it's mind numbing. Actually fixing the player movement will open the door for them to make the game 1000x more realistic. Nearly EVERY facet of the game is negatively affected by the horrific player movement. Easily my biggest (of many ) issues with this game. Nothing tells me that these players resemble humans.

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          • #6
            Big FN Deal
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            • Aug 2011
            • 5993

            Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


            Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

            Not being funny JP but it "must be" or else what? I know you are not saying it as some ultimatum but what makes you think it will be a top priority when it hasn't been for most this gen? I give Ian credit for trying to at least address it in M10 but that quickly went the way of the dodo without any explanation. I would enjoy reading any rational reasoning behind leaving the player movement like this in M13 and not one single dev bothering to try to give any insight as to why.

            In spite of everything unveiled for M13 last year, many people kept asking, "what about player movement?" to anyone that would listen. I just don't see how anyone could play M13, even with all its' "improvements" and give it rave reviews and have rose colored optimism about its' future with fundamental crap like this.

            You know what, I have officially gone off the deep end with Madden, I give up. If they at least address player movement for M14, I will buy it on release day or earlier like I have every year. Forget all the other issues with the game, if they can just address arguably the most important area of a freaking football game, movement, I am in. Player movement is in this current FUBAR state yet people honestly go around stating Madden isn't a crap football game and people "complaining" are being nit picky. I mean it, no need to wow me with any new feature, if M14 addresses this, I done venting about what else is wrong, I will just play it for what it is. That's how low I have now set the bar for me to tolerate Madden and I still doubt that will even happen. SMMFGDH!

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            • #7
              SteelerSpartan
              MVP
              • Apr 2007
              • 2884

              Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


              Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

              Yeah this stuff is really discouraging.....as bad as the zig zagging is....the ai/logic in the pursuit angles are even worse
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              • #8
                atc43
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                • Apr 2009
                • 232

                Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                Big dont blow your money man! But anyway, compare this to the movement in 2K13 a game from this same gen. Now I know its not football, but just do it, This is where we are as Football Gamers...lol

                And Id also like to see someone try to replicate this in 2k5 or 2k8? Just wanna see how that looks next to this!

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                • #9
                  huskerwr38
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1549

                  Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                  Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                  Player movement is without a doubt the single biggest request to be fixed this next year. Running, cutting, locomotion is the most basic thing in any sport and they can't even get that right. Also, the CPU players that are running after you are perfectly mirroring your movements WITHOUT any hesitation or lag. As soon as you zig zag they mirror the exact path with zero reaction time. They look like robots or zombies, just life less.

                  And on that note, they need to add in reaction time. For instance, like 5 guys will attempt to catch a ball within that .5 seconds as it falls to the ground with instantaneous reaction time. Just looks so clanky and robotic.

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                  • #10
                    Squall Leonhart
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2013
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                    Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                    Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                    Originally posted by atc43
                    Big dont blow your money man! But anyway, compare this to the movement in 2K13 a game from this same gen. Now I know its not football, but just do it, This is where we are as Football Gamers...lol

                    And Id also like to see someone try to replicate this in 2k5 or 2k8? Just wanna see how that looks next to this!
                    I know it will look good.

                    But I just wanna say that it's best not to mention 2K in the Madden forums.

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                    • #11
                      speedy9386
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 828

                      Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                      Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      That is zig zag running which has been requested to be removed for several years.

                      That is one of the top priorities.
                      Apparently not if it's been requested for years.

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                      • #12
                        atc43
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 232

                        Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                        Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                        Originally posted by Squall Leonhart
                        I know it will look good.

                        But I just wanna say that it's best not to mention 2K in the Madden forums.
                        Trust me I realize that! Haha just a comparison tho, no bashing intended lol

                        But seriously tho, someone film an older 2k Football game in the same situation and post it, just want to keep it fair and give madden a comparison so we dont have biased opinions towards what weve just watched

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                        • #13
                          TreFacTor
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1138

                          Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                          Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                          Jp you should add a poll...I'd like to know how many people think this is going to be addressed? What's the best way to address the issue? Mo cap? I don't think Madden has used mo cap in 10 years. How do they fix it? What the developer perceives and translates into code is there, it's been there since at least 09 so it's embedded deep just like oline/ dline and AI how do they address this in one cycle...They can't...they know they can't so they won't. (prove me wrong and I'll retract any and all my statements)

                          If they know they can't fix it, then how do they hide it? The game is already at fighting game pace and not even comparable to even the fastest two minute NFL drill. The game has the bare minimum with a little extra. How do they hide what they obviously don't intend to fix? All I'm asking is for them to fool me at this point.
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                          • #14
                            SteelerSpartan
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                            • Apr 2007
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                            Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                            Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                            This and and OL/DL-Pocket play should be at the top of the "Madden Folder of Shame" for all the guys who go down there to test the game.

                            All the attendees going down there this year should just go all Agent Smith on their butts



                            "I don't even want to see anything else until I get a look at these items right here......Fire up your latest build in practice mode please....Mr.Anderson.....or whoever you are"
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                            • #15
                              roadman
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 26339

                              Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25


                              Re: Player Movement Must be the top priority for Madden 25

                              Well, if they didn't address, yet, they have 5 more months.

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