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  • #1
    harvey88
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 330

    Problems with Pitcher fatigue


    I noticed that alot of the time my starters don't fully recover from their last outing and often times are at only about 80-85%. Using a 5 man rotation pitchers should always be fully recovered by the time their next start rolls around. This is something that SCEA needs to address, its been a problem in this game for several years now, but this year it seems even worse. Some of my starters only have 3/4 of the bar full come their next start. At least they fixed the DH fatigue this year. Hopefully if they release another patch they can address this issue. Is anyone else having issues with pitcher/player fatigue?
  • #2
    cactusruss
    Pro
    • Aug 2004
    • 731

    Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


    Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

    Just increase the starter stamina slider 2 clicks.

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    • #3
      harvey88
      Banned
      • Jun 2007
      • 330

      Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


      Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

      Originally posted by cactusruss
      Just increase the starter stamina slider 2 clicks.
      The problem with doing this, is that I don't won't starters to be able to last longer then they should during the game. Once an average pitcher throws between 90-110 pitches he should be fully gased. The problem isn't with stamina during the game, its with recovery time between games.

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      • #4
        countryboy
        3/13/26
        • Sep 2003
        • 53451

        Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


        Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

        pitchers don't always recover to 100% in 4 days time, especially deeper into season. With that said, the only pitcher that I've had this "issue" with, is Blake Hawksworth, but his stamina isn't very high to begin with, so I would think that he doesn't recover too well, especially after extended outings.
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        • #5
          mcgee055
          Rookie
          • Mar 2010
          • 56

          Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


          Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

          if i'm not mistaken the durability attribute for SP's makes them recover more/less for their next start depending on their durability.

          So someone like Lincecum who is very good on durability will recover faster than someone like rich harden who is not all that great on durability.

          i would just bump up your SP's durability. and the cpu's for that matter.

          scea has some very questionable ones on durability anyways. you have to watch out for that.

          for example someone like ubaldo jimenez who has never missed a start due to an injury and has averaged 208 inn. a year in his 2 full time seasons as a SP, is less than an 80 durability on the default rosters.

          he has been on the "dtd" injury report 3 times in his entire career, but never on the 15 or 60 day disabled list. so therefore, i would think he should at minimum be a 90 durability in my opinion.

          hope this helps.
          Last edited by mcgee055; 03-24-2010, 10:56 AM.

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          • #6
            ImTellinTim
            YNWA
            • Sep 2006
            • 33028

            Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


            Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

            Like I said last year, I'm sure pitching coaches would love magic fairy dust that fully recovers pitchers' arms between starts. Million dollar idea. I like the fact that if a guy has a high pitch count in a game, he might not be quite fully recovered for his next start. You might need to use a spot starter during those long stretches of games without a day off. Sounds like some good ol' baseball strategery to me...

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            • #7
              mcgee055
              Rookie
              • Mar 2010
              • 56

              Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


              Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
              Like I said last year, I'm sure pitching coaches would love magic fairy dust that fully recovers pitchers' arms between starts. Million dollar idea. I like the fact that if a guy has a high pitch count in a game, he might not be quite fully recovered for his next start. You might need to use a spot starter during those long stretches of games without a day off. Sounds like some good ol' baseball strategery to me...
              that is true to an extent. but i think what the original poster is trying to say, is that if you have someone like jon lester who always labors thru "high" pitch counts in real life and is pretty good when it comes to stamina (203 and 210 ip last 2 years), and he averages 6.35 inning per start irl the past 2 years (well above average)

              say it's august 15th (and you dont't have a day off between now and his next start) and you pitch him 112 pitches in 7 inning (very realistic line for a real life start for lester),

              but in this game since he is only a 61 durability on the scea roster that he will likely not be 100% stamina come his next start in 5 days.

              and that's just silly. he would no doubt be 100% ready to go for his next start irl. he would not be 90% stamina.

              now if he pitched a CG his last start with 147 pitches in your last start controlling him, then yes, he would only be 90% stamina.
              Last edited by mcgee055; 03-24-2010, 11:08 AM.

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              • #8
                ImTellinTim
                YNWA
                • Sep 2006
                • 33028

                Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


                Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

                Originally posted by mcgee055
                that is true to an extent. but i think what the original poster is trying to say, is that if you have someone like jon lester who always labors thru "high" pitch counts in real life and is pretty good when it comes to stamina (203 and 210 ip last 2 years), and he averages 6.35 inning per start irl the past 2 years (well above average)

                say it's august 15th (and you dont't have a day off between now and his next start) and you pitch him 112 pitches in 7 inning (very realistic line for a real life start for lester),

                but in this game since he is only a 61 durability on the scea roster that he will likely not be 100% stamina come his next start in 5 days.

                and that's just silly. he would no doubt be 100% ready to go for his next start irl. he would not be 90% stamina.
                I gotcha. This is why I don't use the default rosters for my franchise...

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                • #9
                  mcgee055
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 56

                  Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


                  Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

                  Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                  I gotcha. This is why I don't use the default rosters for my franchise...
                  yeah, i hear ya. either do i. i have my own formulas for everyones durability and stamina. cause the default rosters can be silly when it comes to ratings sometimes.

                  so for durability, i use baseball injury tool.com.

                  and i do times on dl the last 5 yrs.

                  i do -1 for each dtd injury the past 5 yrs,

                  -5 for each 15 day dl stint the past 5 yrs, and

                  -10 for each 60 day dl stint the past 5 yrs,

                  so examples for what i do on durability for SP's....,

                  dan haren (no 15 or 60 dl stints last 5 yrs) and "3" dtd injuries.

                  so i do... 99-3 = i have dan haren a 96 durability on "my" rosters. seems accurate. because irl dan haren is a horse.

                  rich harden ("3" 60 day dl stints, "4" 15 dl stints, and "4" dtd stints the past 5 yrs)

                  so i do...99-30-20-4 = 45 durability for harden.

                  sounds right to me since he is a great pitcher but always injured and def. at or near the bottom of the barrel concering SP's in terms of durability irl.
                  Last edited by mcgee055; 03-24-2010, 11:21 AM.

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                  • #10
                    ImTellinTim
                    YNWA
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 33028

                    Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


                    Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

                    That's a really interesting formula. I like it.

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                    • #11
                      Maynard
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 831

                      Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue


                      Re: Problems with Pitcher fatigue

                      this is an issue for my starters too. And durability has nothing to do with it. my #4 guy has a 91 durability and went 6.1 IP his last outing. He went right around 100 pitches and his stamina going into todays start, in a 5 man rotation is only about 85%

                      you guys are funny....4 days rest is more than enough time for any starter to recover from his previous start. magic dust is not needed for them to be 100% energized by the next game. And thats what we are talking about here, the energy level. Not them being worn down by the grind of a 162 game season.

                      Anyways....will raising the stamina slider even work to fix this?

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