Lets talk about stripping the ball.

[ViolenceFight]

I NEVER see this talked about in regards to 2k13, and I'd like to address it. This is what I refer to as the "Uncrowned Cheese" on black top, and is more enfuriating to me than Euro-Threes and Spin moves combined. I mention it in a previous post, but I'd like to see if anyone else agrees or even knows what I'm talking about.

"The Strip Glitch" is what I call the ability to strip the ball from a lay up or dunk animation at what seems to be a 90% rate. I have literally seen players change from the dunk animation to a "Ball bobbling strip" animation. It looks ugly, and honestly I feel like it's unrealistic. I get that on black top you have no rules, and I'm sure in game it could lead to a potential reach in foul, but essentially on black top it is hard to deal with.

Anyone with a high enough steal rating(And no, you do not need active hands to trigger it), can seemingly swipe the ball from a lay up or dunk animation whenever they feel like it. I've seen players teleport from one side of the rim to the next to seemingly take the ball out of a dunker's hand mid animation multiple times. I don't mention it or complain mostly, since dunks are unblockable. But since we now have blockable dunks being talked about for 2k14, I'd like to bring this to light.

Nothing agitates me more than having a clear path to the rim, starting the animation, only to see a defender from the otherside of the court who was playing perimeter D fly seemingly out of nowhere and strip the ball mid animation. Anyone else notice this or see it happen? I can do the same thing with my SG at a stupidly high clip. Usually it leads to them bobbling out of bounds and a turnover. That's an auto turn over almost every time someone drives to the rim.


Now, the counter to it is pull up jumpers, floaters(due to fast animation), and delaying your shot until they are stuck in a swipe animation(while praying they don't steal, since at that point you are liable to have 3 defenders circling you in the paint spamming the button).


Just wanted to see if anyone else feels the same way about this as I do.

[MarvinOida]

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Oh the glitch where I could stand in the paint, spam steal and get a steal if someone drives? Yeah that sucks, more than Leaning Layup, but again, this is something that would to be toned down. Like if a ball handler is driving to the paint, not really guarding the ball in a layup, then that animate COULD trigger.

Its one of the annoying things that can happen in real life but it just needs to be toned down a lot. Or called a foul more.


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[Magnus1959]

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Yes it happens way too often.

[Dimage25]

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I didn't play a lot of blacktop, but i know what you mean. I saw that kind of ball strip animation in myTeam a couple of time and it always seemed to happen, when you're on the fast break and have a clear path to the basket and then a trailing defender would just knock the ball out of your hands, when you go up for the layup. Only happened a few times to me, but i know it's frustrating when it does. While we are on the topic of stripping the ball, in 2k13 i saw a couple of times in online matches, that when i inbounded the ball after the opponent scored, the opponent would just take the player that was trying to steal the inbound pass and run straight across the path of my PG or SG and sometimes that triggered a animation where my PG or SG just droppes the ball seemingly for no reason. To me that was extremly frustrating when it happened, caus in real life if you run into your opponent, that's a foul, but i dunno, definetly wouldn't mind not seeing cheese like that in 2k14 anymore.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Well, if they were to take that out, then there would be literally no defense in the blacktop mode.

[NINJAK2]

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I really hate the constant reach in attempts after rebounds that tend to knock the ball away from me(90's in handle and control). I really miss that old school elbow swing you could do after rebounding in the old dreamcast versions. That atleast allowed you to clear some space from the scrappers. The fact that you always seem to face the rim for a few seconds after rebounding make it even more difficult to escape for me. Blacktop really needs fouls..

[lilteapot]

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I always seem to lose the ball whenever I'm posting up lol. Maybe I just suck.

[ViolenceFight]

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Well, if they were to take that out, then there would be literally no defense in the blacktop mode.

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. However, now that dunks are blockable, I hope it's toned down abit in said mode. I never made a thread about it until now because I understood that it's the only actual defense against dunks, and as such there's no point in complaining. I don't want it removed at all, either, just toned down a bit.

[Coach2K]

Lets talk about stripping the ball.

I really hate the constant reach in attempts after rebounds that tend to knock the ball away from me(90's in handle and control). I really miss that old school elbow swing you could do after rebounding in the old dreamcast versions. That atleast allowed you to clear some space from the scrappers. The fact that you always seem to face the rim for a few seconds after rebounding make it even more difficult to escape for me. Blacktop really needs fouls..

Don't know about black top but in quick match, when I get a rebound, I immediately hit triangle on PS3 to protect the ball and that solves the problem on rebounds and often draws fouls.

Either everyone got better at stripping in the paint or it did increase for other reasons as I saw an increase in strips about a month or so ago although I tend to play my fair share of some pretty tough defenders.

This is online association, quick match and play with friends that I'm referring too.

[boltokPwnage04]

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I can't comment on blacktop, but in ranked and MyTeam it wasn't an issue to me.

[ViolenceFight]

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I can't comment on blacktop, but in ranked and MyTeam it wasn't an issue to me.

I assume it's probably a black top only issue due to the lack of fouls. I know if I'm playing online in ranked or any other game with NBA rules, I usually avoid the steal button since they call reaching on anything it seems like. With the lack of fouls on black top, it's essentially free reign to spam steal. While this usually leads to easy buckets because when they reach a lot of times they get stuck in an animation and you can go right around them...if you drive and start a lay up animation and they time the steal anywhere between the start of said lay up and the middle, it will force you out of the lay up and into a "getting stripped" animation.

It can be triggered in the same time frame as the leaning lay up animation(I.e. start of-to the middle of the dunk/lay up animation), and can force you out of the animation just the same. It's literally the only dunk defense on black top, and it's a completely justified move as It is possible to strip the ball in real life. The problem I have with it is that it's do-able at such a high rate of success that it is borderline cheesy. More-so since everyone seems to play a guard online(Although you don't need a guard to do it, they just have the highest steal attribute), meaning if you get by one, the other 2 swarm your path almost guaranteeing a turn-over.

It's almost always a loss of possession for 3 reasons: One they'll knock it out of the dribble, two it can become the stripped animation if you go for a lay up, and finally with 2-3 guards spamming steal, any pass attempt has a good chance for deflection. Since a majority of the players know about it, it forces it into a game of backstep jumpers or floaters and hinders a good chunk of drive attempts(Since it can occur if you just go for a lay in aswell).

Like I said: Necessary evil for now, but really needs to get toned down as more defensive options are made available.

[Chocolate Chip]

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i remember back in 2k10 u couldnt trigger this animation. but then in 2k11-2k13 they added this animation over again. smh

the sad thing about this is that fouls arent even called when it happens most of the time

[DboyRavage]

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Are you talking about the animation when somebody is trailing you and they go for a steal as you go up for a finish and you get stripped, resulting in the going out of bounce?

[thelakeshow]

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I assume it's probably a black top only issue due to the lack of fouls. I know if I'm playing online in ranked or any other game with NBA rules, I usually avoid the steal button since they call reaching on anything it seems like. With the lack of fouls on black top, it's essentially free reign to spam steal. While this usually leads to easy buckets because when they reach a lot of times they get stuck in an animation and you can go right around them...if you drive and start a lay up animation and they time the steal anywhere between the start of said lay up and the middle, it will force you out of the lay up and into a "getting stripped" animation.

It can be triggered in the same time frame as the leaning lay up animation(I.e. start of-to the middle of the dunk/lay up animation), and can force you out of the animation just the same. It's literally the only dunk defense on black top, and it's a completely justified move as It is possible to strip the ball in real life. The problem I have with it is that it's do-able at such a high rate of success that it is borderline cheesy. More-so since everyone seems to play a guard online(Although you don't need a guard to do it, they just have the highest steal attribute), meaning if you get by one, the other 2 swarm your path almost guaranteeing a turn-over.

It's almost always a loss of possession for 3 reasons: One they'll knock it out of the dribble, two it can become the stripped animation if you go for a lay up, and finally with 2-3 guards spamming steal, any pass attempt has a good chance for deflection. Since a majority of the players know about it, it forces it into a game of backstep jumpers or floaters and hinders a good chunk of drive attempts(Since it can occur if you just go for a lay in aswell).

Like I said: Necessary evil for now, but really needs to get toned down as more defensive options are made available.

It definitely has to be toned down a bit in nba 2k14. Like you said, it has to do with the lack of fouls in blacktop mode (so they spam the steal button), and also has to do with the signature skills your opponents equipped on their myplayer. The active hands signature skill and a 99 steal rating, improves the success rate immensely. And if your myplayer doesn't have a high ball security rating, then don't even try coming into the paint.

[Jrocc23]

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i remember back in 2k10 u couldnt trigger this animation. but then in 2k11-2k13 they added this animation over again. smh

the sad thing about this is that fouls arent even called when it happens most of the time

Wait a minute. What steal animation are we talking about here? Because animation steals was maybe the worst I've ever seen in 2K10 and in 2K11 you couldn't get an animation steal besides the one when the defender was in the players chest. So, it was rarely on-ball steals in 2K11. Was even more in 2K13.

And if you are talking about the strip animation when going up for a layup or dunk, that has been in for as long as I can remember.