Elite teams vs. Scrub teams

[Bootzilla]

Is there enough separation between the elites vs. the scrubs or do all the games just play to a script? On AC and higher it doesn't matter if I'm playing against Duke or Pacific. I played both teams with Kansas and Pacific was better. They went to the bucket relentlessly and finished. I couldn't slow them down. It's odd. I can play with evenly matched teams and have great games. If I have a superior team things get a little fishy. Players certainly don't play to their ratings or their teams ratings.

I haven't started a dynasty and I was wondering if this was only happening to me in play now games or if it's like this in dynasty. I know you can't overlook anybody but, at face value some games shouldn't even be close.

[Jason2112]

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I've been having good results with realism so far, but I really try to run sets most of the time. My first few games were really bad, but as I started to get the feel for it and run my plays, things were way more realistic. I am in a dynasty with Gonzaga, and I'm 7-3. Just lost at Duke by 20 something. Believe me, there was a major difference, to me, playing Duke then playing Miss. Valley St that I played earlier in the season.

[racerx]

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I think I need to start running more plays using Authentics slider set, using UK I am struggling against smaller schools. Last night UNC-Ashville took me to OT before I finally put them away.

[Bootzilla]

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It's weird. Offensively I can pretty much get what I want against anybody. What's odd is the more inferior the team I play against the more unrealistic stuff they do to keep up. I have bigger wins and more realistic games against more evenly matched opponents.

[jake44np]

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It's weird. Offensively I can pretty much get what I want against anybody. What's odd is the more inferior the team I play against the more unrealistic stuff they do to keep up. I have bigger wins and more realistic games against more evenly matched opponents.

I think that is because the small or inferior schools dont shoot 3's.
They just attack the basket like crazy which is really hard to stop.
I played USF last night in my UC dynasty and all they kept doing was penetrating and shooting layups, I could not step them.
The second game I played at LVille which worked the ball around the perimeter and looked for open outside shots. This was alot easier to defend.

[KmK]

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I played #1 Villanova in my Depaul dynasty and got destroyed by 30. Reynolds was hitting everything and I had no answer. They took 3s all game. I was very happy with the results, other then losing.

[steve21a]

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I think that is because the small or inferior schools dont shoot 3's.
They just attack the basket like crazy which is really hard to stop.
I played USF last night in my UC dynasty and all they kept doing was penetrating and shooting layups, I could not step them.
The second game I played at LVille which worked the ball around the perimeter and looked for open outside shots. This was alot easier to defend.

What kind of D are you running? I find that when I'm using man to man the CPU goes right past me to the hole, so then I switch to a zone and that usually will change the CPU's offensive logic. I will often switch back and forth between man to man, zone, and traps/double teams to keep the CPU offense from running the same plays against me. Seems to work pretty well.

[yokiisthename]

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since MM08 i always play as small schools in my dynasty. This year im very pleased with the separation of how good elite teams are.

When i used Idaho State for my dynasty and played BYU, no matter what i do i cant put up a big lead against them, largest lead was probably 7 and ending up losing coz my bigs got in foul trouble early and they crashed the board like crazy.

But when I had BYU in my 2nd dynasty and played Idaho State I easily can blow them up (BYU is ranked B+ and Idaho St. is a C)

So the difference is there, if youre playing with small lower ranked teams against the big or higher ranked teams, you really have to play smart or they'll kill you. (case in point: my BYU against no. 2 seeded purdue in the tournament Even if im ranked B+ im having a TOUGH time catching up with Purdue who were ranked A, lost by 12.)

When youre against the small or lower ranked teams, even if youre a little to reckless with the ball there is still a high chance that youre gonna end up winning. So yeah, the separation is there.

[jtdribbles25]

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It's weird. Offensively I can pretty much get what I want against anybody. What's odd is the more inferior the team I play against the more unrealistic stuff they do to keep up. I have bigger wins and more realistic games against more evenly matched opponents.

I see this happen all the time. I can usually pull away, but it doesn't seem like my superior athletisism is the key. I don't feel "bigger, faster, stronger"... if that makes sense. My players are better, but I don't "feel" clearly superior. It's like an upset waiting to happen most games. And I know that whole, small schools getting up for a big match up thing, but No. lol.

[jkra0512]

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It's weird. Offensively I can pretty much get what I want against anybody. What's odd is the more inferior the team I play against the more unrealistic stuff they do to keep up. I have bigger wins and more realistic games against more evenly matched opponents.

I feel the same way. It seems like I have tougher games against American and Mt. Saint Mary than the likes of Butler and Washington.

[yokiisthename]

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It's weird. Offensively I can pretty much get what I want against anybody. What's odd is the more inferior the team I play against the more unrealistic stuff they do to keep up. I have bigger wins and more realistic games against more evenly matched opponents.

never really had this issue on me.
when im controlling power conference school (like Stanford on my dynasty) I always get the upper hand against small lower ranked teams.

And to think Stanford wasn't even that strong of a team compare to the elites.

I blew out Portland State and UC Davis in my dynasty games but frustrated as hell when i played Kentucky (which put me into embarrassment) and Oklahoma State because I cant even get a at least a 1 point lead throughout the game.

Also I had a pretty even match with Virginia, had the same B+ rank. Ended up losing too though but it was really a close game.

[stlstudios189]

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I still struggle sometimes to the smaller schools because I get relaxed and think to myself "it's only Buffallo, easy victory." and before I know it I'm down 6 at halftime. That happens in real life as well so you have to stay sharp or boom... upset.

[yokiisthename]

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its all about momentum, and i think the game has done it pretty well. Even a small school gets momentum by running their ideal tempo or started to get consecutive shots will be hard to beat.

That's what happened to my game against Oklahoma St (of course me was the weaker school). Was down 14 then two consecutive 3's by Landry Fields and OSU got cold from the field, and was able to catch up to down by 2 until OSU got their swagger back and the game just got hard from there.

You can never really let your guard down even against weaker teams coz if they start hitting shots, they will continue to unless you find a way to kill their momentum. A timeout or a solid defense. Once the momentum goes to them, you will see more fouls called against you, and no fouls to you. They pass better and of course shoots better.

(Case in point: Im playing JMU right now and im down by 15. they were only ranked B but they kept hitting shots and now im losing my mind because two of my big men are in foul trouble already, 9:42 in the 1st half.)

[LP]

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I think it is more of an issue with how the scrub teams score. They do all their scoring in the paint, in the post, and at the line. No matter what you do defensively, they will not shoot jumpers outside of the paint. Sometimes a zone works, but good defensive teams that play man should not have to resort to zone to stop these cupcake schools.

[jkra0512]

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I think it is more of an issue with how the scrub teams score. They do all their scoring in the paint, in the post, and at the line. No matter what you do defensively, they will not shoot jumpers outside of the paint. Sometimes a zone works, but good defensive teams that play man should not have to resort to zone to stop these cupcake schools.

100% agreed LP