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Steve_OS 11-03-2008 05:32 AM

NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
We have just posted a gameplay video from our beta copy of NCAA Basketball 09, featuring North Carolina @ Duke.

fsufan4423 11-03-2008 06:39 AM

Sweet...can't wait

IHateDuke32 11-03-2008 08:07 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I used to play March Madness back on Playstation 1, but I really started to dislike the series when it made the jump to PS2 with 2002's poor offering. I've pretty much been a 2K guy ever since, I was even just planning on downloading new rosters for this year through CHoops 2K8 and having that as my college basketball fix. However, that video looked pretty damn good. There are a few things that look like they need fixing (Danny Green goes over and back towards the end and no call), but overall what a giant leap in gameplay for this game. If there is solid representation of small schools in this game (such as SIU where I attend), I am definitely picking this game up. Very impressed

intellisect 11-03-2008 09:05 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I hope I'm wrong but this does NOT look like the NBA Live 09 engine at all. It is probably an upgraded Live 08 engine modified for the college game like CHoops used to do. I was excited but now I think I'll pass.

bases1616 11-03-2008 11:38 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I think it is the Live 08 engine. I read somewhere that is was the Live 08 engine and not the 09. Also, why is it so dark in the game? It looked like they were playing in some moonlighting game.

Pared 11-03-2008 12:09 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Looks great. Better than Live '09.... BUT.

Why are the contested shots in the paint STILL going in? It was a problem in Live and it's a problem here.

There is contact made, the shooter either gets hit or has to adjusted his shot and the ball still bounces in. Happen 3 times in that video alone.

I didn't see the "perfect arc" on shots as it may have been removed. I can only hope.

BTW, those white flashes are beyond annoying and disorienting at the start of the game. Seems like their solution to the strange graphical hiccups that plagued Live '09 during cutscene changes... but a wipe with the EA Logo or something would've looked a LOT better.

KG 11-03-2008 12:18 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pared (Post 2038875626)
Looks great. Better than Live '09.... BUT.

Why are the contested shots in the paint STILL going in? It was a problem in Live and it's a problem here.

There is contact made, the shooter either gets hit or has to adjusted his shot and the ball still bounces in. Happen 3 times in that video alone.

I didn't see the "perfect arc" on shots as it may have been removed. I can only hope.

BTW, those white flashes are beyond annoying and disorienting at the start of the game. Seems like their solution to the strange graphical hiccups that plagued Live '09 during cutscene changes... but a wipe with the EA Logo or something would've looked a LOT better.

I thought the video looked pretty good. My purchase will hinge on how the Demo drops.

I haven't played Live but my only explanation would be that the game was played on a lower level? They didn't miss for a while until Gerald started bombing 3's. Glad to see EA got that part right (Gerald not being able to shoot)

I just want more details into the career mode or whatever it's called in NCAA Hoops. Haven't played an EA College bball game in so long.

sgtspit 11-03-2008 01:43 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
im sticking with choops,with the 09 rosters.Still want to try the demo
out for this when ever it comes out..

ehh 11-03-2008 01:51 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
The video definitely looks good especially compared to MM08. The animations are improved but some are still bit funky. I still do not like most of the jump shot animations they're sufficient. The game is smoother and the speed is much more realistic.

I love the floor spacing and realistic defensive recovery. That alone will help me enjoy this game a ton, over the years it has become the biggest gripe of 2K's games for me.

The rebounding seems greatly improved from last year and I like the contact in the paint, that's not as messy as MM08.

I'm not concerned with so many shots going in, like most demos/vids I assume this is on an easy setting.

ExtremeGamer 11-03-2008 01:52 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Looking forward to a demo, but not impressed by the video. Why were Duke fans cheering a UNC bucket? The game was very dark as well, hopefully that's just the video, and not how the game looks.

J.R. Locke 11-03-2008 01:56 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Dark to anyone else?

Anyway better than I expected it to be. I will definitely try out the demo and maybe get this through gamefly.

countryboy 11-03-2008 02:07 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtspit (Post 2038875949)
im sticking with choops,with the 09 rosters.Still want to try the demo
out for this when ever it comes out..

the demo is supposed to be out Thursday.

KG 11-03-2008 02:18 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeGamer (Post 2038875990)
Looking forward to a demo, but not impressed by the video. Why were Duke fans cheering a UNC bucket? The game was very dark as well, hopefully that's just the video, and not how the game looks.

I've noticed that a few of EA's games on next-gen are dark by default. FIFA 08 & 09 were like that.

jagsfan82 11-03-2008 03:59 PM

whats the green line underneath the players suppose to mean?

carnalnirvana 11-03-2008 04:18 PM

their shorts are too baggy look like they playing street ball lol

looks good though

Murph 11-03-2008 04:38 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I thought the EA guys here said specifically that this game was based on the Live 09 engine, not 08. I certainly hope it's 09.

I'll add one more complaint to those I've read here already. Even in this short clip, there's repetition in the play-by-play. How many times did we hear Nessler say 'Up...and IN!'

Behindshadows 11-03-2008 04:46 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I agree! There is a lot I'm not liking in this video....mainly with it being off sync..lol (joking Steve)

But my UNC Lineup was wrong!

Should have been Hansbrough, Lawson, Ellington, Green and Keller!

And not Davis and Ginyard. And why does Ellington have a Afro? He's clean cut with a fade all the time, with the Long trimmed beard.

Game looked like MM08 with better animations. Even during crossovers and things like that, I didn't see much of Live 09 in there at all.

But again it is beta! So I'm guessing its a very early build, they did make a trailer running off the MM08 engine. Maybe its the same with this video.

On the plus side, it was much smoother and graphically a lot better than MM08 the stadiums are much brighter than they were last year. Still not as dynamically bright as CH 2k8. But with great detail.

Keep the videos coming Steve, don't get discouraged, we appreciate the efforts.

Try naming the players before recording, so we can hear the names instead of the numbers...:)

DickDalewood 11-03-2008 05:09 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Why is it that EA always says "we completely rewrote/created a new engine this year" yet the animations, graphics always look the same?

What's new about this engine? The only real noticeable difference I saw was an improvement in gamespeed.

It looked "OK", but I dunno...

Behindshadows 11-03-2008 05:33 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dickdalewood (Post 2038876703)
Why is it that EA always says "we completely rewrote/created a new engine this year" yet the animations, graphics always look the same?

What's new about this engine? The only real noticeable difference I saw was an improvement in gamespeed.

It looked "OK", but I dunno...

Not true, I see a different game! Just a graphics similarity with more detail.

You can see that this game has footplanting, as last seasons had none! They dragged their feet and slid all over the place in MM8.

This game does have the footplanting and it does have more animations, you can see it in the shot selection and movement.

It's just not a super duper gap of a difference. And I can respect that, as MM08 wasn't that bad, it just had it quirks...and from this BETA Video, those quirks look to be gone.

I believe the options that this game provides this season will be the difference maker.

I agree this video is a tad of a disappointment. But its still a day one purchase for me.

jd@os 11-03-2008 05:52 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Behindshadows (Post 2038876625)
I agree! There is a lot I'm not liking in this video....mainly with it being off sync..lol (joking Steve)

But my UNC Lineup was wrong!

Should have been Hansbrough, Lawson, Ellington, Green and Keller!

And not Davis and Ginyard. And why does Ellington have a Afro? He's clean cut with a fade all the time, with the Long trimmed beard.

Game looked like MM08 with better animations. Even during crossovers and things like that, I didn't see much of Live 09 in there at all.

But again it is beta! So I'm guessing its a very early build, they did make a trailer running off the MM08 engine. Maybe its the same with this video.

On the plus side, it was much smoother and graphically a lot better than MM08 the stadiums are much brighter than they were last year. Still not as dynamically bright as CH 2k8. But with great detail.

Keep the videos coming Steve, don't get discouraged, we appreciate the efforts.

Try naming the players before recording, so we can hear the names instead of the numbers...:)

I haven't seen the video, but why did you say those guys should start for UNC? Looks like they're gonna start the same five as last year: Lawson, Ellington, Green (until Ginyard recovers), Hansbrough, and Thompson. Neither Ed Davis nor Tyler Zeller seems to have beaten Thompson out, but word is Davis is creeping up behind Deon.

iwearglovesndhat 11-03-2008 06:12 PM

Ok. this game looks alright. But is there any type of superstar mode like in ncaa football 09 or is there any type of superstar in live 09 or nba 2k9? those are my favorite options. Also btw, college hoops 2k9 was cancelled

Bigdmo9999 11-03-2008 06:50 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I'm still torn to whether or not I want to purchase this game or stick with CH2K8. It seems no one is making an updated roster for PS3 so I may just go with this game. It looks pretty solid, not to mention they have Oregon's jerseys and now Mac Court right so that's a plus in my eyes

countryboy 11-03-2008 07:09 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I'll let the demo have the final say, but I didn't dig the video. The court was extremely dark(I guess everyone is having to cut power due to the economy), and the gameplay just seemed arcadey.

I'll wait and decide after hands on time with the demo.

Pared 11-03-2008 07:22 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pared (Post 2038875626)
Why are the contested shots in the paint STILL going in? It was a problem in Live and it's a problem here.

There is contact made, the shooter either gets hit or has to adjusted his shot and the ball still bounces in. Happen 3 times in that video alone.

Well seems like my worries are for naught. :woot: Always a good thing!

AuburnAlumni 11-04-2008 12:04 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Eh.....

I'll be sticking with College Hoops with updated rosters.

I liked the Arena and I did like the spacing...but other than that... ....eh.

The animations are just plain choppy and not very fluid at all. There seemed to be a lot of "funky stuff" going on and the shots just don't look very life like.

EA has a long long way to go in the Basketball department in my opinion but it does show improvement. Maybe next year.

jsg 11-04-2008 01:08 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
i hope i like the demo because i wasnt feeling the video. it looked generic to me.

thmst30 11-04-2008 01:30 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
The demo will be the deciding factor for me as well. Based off that video I would have never bought the game. The whole thing is so stiff and jerky. Hardly fluid at all, and the rim/ball physics still looked awkward. Solid demo or bust.

SportGamer24 11-04-2008 08:39 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Demo doesn't look similar to the live engine. If EA can take the live 09 engine and add in the ball movement typical of ncaa basketball the game could be great.

ehh 11-04-2008 08:55 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I'm not overly concerned with the choppiness or look of the game to be honest. If the game play and controls are improved I will be the happy.

But I agree with what a lot of people are saying, I don't see much NBA Live 09 stuff in this vid.

jd@os 11-04-2008 08:59 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdmo9999 (Post 2038877006)
I'm still torn to whether or not I want to purchase this game or stick with CH2K8. It seems no one is making an updated roster for PS3 so I may just go with this game. It looks pretty solid, not to mention they have Oregon's jerseys and now Mac Court right so that's a plus in my eyes

Bigdmo,

We worked on the same 2K roster last year--TheAirUpThere's College Hoops unlockables. If THAT roster was updated for the '08-'09 season then I would definitely stick with it and not get EA's game. I know there are some other 2K rosters being updated for this season, but the one we worked on was the best in my opinion.

Bigdmo9999 11-04-2008 10:56 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jd@os (Post 2038878302)
Bigdmo,

We worked on the same 2K roster last year--TheAirUpThere's College Hoops unlockables. If THAT roster was updated for the '08-'09 season then I would definitely stick with it and not get EA's game. I know there are some other 2K rosters being updated for this season, but the one we worked on was the best in my opinion.

Yeah that was a great roster. Its too bad no one wants to get a PS3 roster going. Like 4 people are doing a 360 roster and only one person has attempted a PS3 one and got no help. I'd help if I was good at scouting and stuff and knew about other teams, and if I had the time, but I don't have either of those so I can't really help out.

ehh 11-04-2008 11:01 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
If NCAA09 is a big disappointment and unplayable like MM08 then I will probably return to the 2K8 project.

ehh 11-04-2008 11:16 AM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
The UNC XX3's in the vid. :bandito:

boydra 11-04-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuburnAlumni (Post 2038877807)
Eh.....

I'll be sticking with College Hoops with updated rosters.

I liked the Arena and I did like the spacing...but other than that... ....eh.

The animations are just plain choppy and not very fluid at all. There seemed to be a lot of "funky stuff" going on and the shots just don't look very life like.

EA has a long long way to go in the Basketball department in my opinion but it does show improvement. Maybe next year.

Agreed, btw animations seem to be a problem from year to year in some EA's sports titles (i.e. Madden 09).

BDKiiing 11-04-2008 08:57 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
i cant wait to play with duke against unc!!

Sean Q 11-05-2008 04:47 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
I have not played EA college basketball in years. I am looking forward to the possibility that they will have put together a product that I will enjoy playing. It may not measure up to 2k, but if it comes close, then I will keep playing as they make improvements.

OS are there anymore videos since you have the Beta copy?

jfsolo 11-05-2008 10:08 PM

Re: NCAA Basketball 09 Video: North Carolina @ Duke
 
Watching this vid, the weaknesses of the game seem to be what I thought they were going to be. The number and fluidity of the animations, and the A.I. of the C.P.U. I know Carolina wants to play up tempo, but some of the shot attempts by the C.P.U. were ridiculous.

Psycho T getting so few touches, let alone not taking a shot in that many minutes of play, just wouldn't happen, even if he were being quadruple teamed.

Hopefully editing and sliders can fix the erratic C.P.U. decision making.


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