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keymax 02-24-2010 01:46 PM

MLB '10: The Show - Top 5 Left Fielders
 
The Show Community has posted the top 5 left fielders in MLB '10: The Show.

Mr. Franchise 02-24-2010 01:52 PM

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Best list yet.

GEORGE LUZ 02-24-2010 01:54 PM

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I like how Josh Hamilton is almost as good as Albert Pujols...interesting... And how Carl Crawford, the best 5 tool player in the game is 9th overall. Good ratings.

CArty 02-24-2010 01:56 PM

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I know i'm a Homie, but really?? Jason Bay ranked ahead of Matt Holliday. Bay hits for more power, but Holliday hits for a higher average, runs better, plays better defense, and has a better arm. Bay is actually ranked ahead of Holliday in defense by 4 points, I think that is a little off.

ty5oke 02-24-2010 01:56 PM

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Looks good to me.. thanks for the post

keymax 02-24-2010 01:56 PM

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I'll go through that one by one:

Braun: looks ok

Hamilton: vastly overrated

He increases from being rated 79/67/79/58 in the last roster update to 85/72/91/80 what did he do last year to deserve it? I know he was injured, but why not keep it the way it was last year?
His 2008 btw. was very good but he can thank Rangers ballpark for that. I know he is a popular player and a feel good story, but no way he should be ranked ahead of Holliday.

Manny, Bay look alright.

Holliday seems a bit weak against LHP, but there was a dropdown against left handers last year so I think it's OK.
Before somebody says that Coors Field inflated Holliday's numbers more than Hamilton's. Look at their OPS+. Holliday has been better than Hamilton EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

mrbean5277 02-24-2010 01:58 PM

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wow. quite the impressive list....NOT! Carl Crawford number 9 !? Really? Here is a guy who is top 3 fastest players in mlb. Other than Franklin Gutierrez, he is probably the best defensive outfielder in baseball when you factor in how many runs he saves his team with his range. Also here is a guy who is a career .295 hitter and batted .305 last year, and averages about 14 homeruns a season. Also, he is only 28 and in the prime of his career. And Juan Rivera among others is ranked ahead of him?!? Am i missing something here? These ratings really make me laugh.

ty5oke 02-24-2010 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GEORGE LUZ (Post 2040777508)
I like how Josh Hamilton is almost as good as Albert Pujols...interesting... And how Carl Crawford, the best 5 tool player in the game is 9th overall. Good ratings.

What are you talking about?

Here are their major hitting attributes:

Pujols: 90,99,87,94,94,99,99
Hamilton : 85,72,91,80,58,70,85

Checmate101 02-24-2010 02:01 PM

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ahh man @ Matt Holliday fielding rating a 59, dude make one mistake in the playoffs where the ball hits him where the sun don't shine..and his rating gets dropped. I thought he was a good fielder.

bigjake62505 02-24-2010 02:02 PM

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Cant see crawford being 9th and cant see manny being so high, the guy throws like a girl and is so one dimensional. Add that to the 50 game suspension and steadly decling numbers when he came back I just dont see it.

JermaineDye05 02-24-2010 02:02 PM

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Most accurate ratings so far.

braun4mvp 02-24-2010 02:12 PM

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Braun's batting stance looks off which is weird because it was pretty much perfect in last years game. A pretty good list though

jrod1981 02-24-2010 02:16 PM

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WHAT! No Alfonso Soriano?!?!? I am sooooooo being sarcastic it hurts. I'm not sure I buy Josh Hamilton being ranked that high. It also pains me, as a cubs fan, to see Braun ranked so high.

Perfect Zero 02-24-2010 02:18 PM

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Pretty fair I'd say. Josh Hamilton was hurt most of last year, and when he came back he was still not doing well. I guess that's what happens when you crash into outfield walls at high speeds. As I've said before, the Ballpark helps because, duh, you play half your games in it.

Brewhaha 02-24-2010 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braun4mvp (Post 2040777583)
Braun's batting stance looks off which is weird because it was pretty much perfect in last years game. A pretty good list though

Yeah, it looks like the generic one. I've got to think it will be the same as last year on the game we get, otherwise someone screwed up.

redsox4ever 02-24-2010 02:29 PM

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I have a question and was wondering if someone can answer this. Ryan Braun is ranked number one and i was looking at his attributes and it says he bats right and his right contact and power are 75 , 73 now here's the thing that is boggling my mind. For a guy that isn't a switch hitter how is it that his lefty batting stats are 90 for contact and 95 for power. Now since he's only a right handed hitter shouldn't those stats be at zero?

metsman8669 02-24-2010 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redsox4ever (Post 2040777648)
I have a question and was wondering if someone can answer this. Ryan Braun is ranked number one and i was looking at his attributes and it says he bats right and his right contact and power are 75 , 73 now here's the thing that is boggling my mind. For a guy that isn't a switch hitter how is it that his lefty batting stats are 90 for contact and 95 for power. Now since he's only a right handed hitter shouldn't those stats be at zero?

It's how he does against LH pitchers.

Brewhaha 02-24-2010 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redsox4ever (Post 2040777648)
I have a question and was wondering if someone can answer this. Ryan Braun is ranked number one and i was looking at his attributes and it says he bats right and his right contact and power are 75 , 73 now here's the thing that is boggling my mind. For a guy that isn't a switch hitter how is it that his lefty batting stats are 90 for contact and 95 for power. Now since he's only a right handed hitter shouldn't those stats be at zero?

That's against RHP and against LHP.

metsman8669 02-24-2010 02:31 PM

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Solid list overall, but Crawford is too low and Hamilton and Juan Rivera are too high.

onelastbreathnj 02-24-2010 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redsox4ever (Post 2040777648)
I have a question and was wondering if someone can answer this. Ryan Braun is ranked number one and i was looking at his attributes and it says he bats right and his right contact and power are 75 , 73 now here's the thing that is boggling my mind. For a guy that isn't a switch hitter how is it that his lefty batting stats are 90 for contact and 95 for power. Now since he's only a right handed hitter shouldn't those stats be at zero?

Those are his attributes against left-handed pitchers.

slickkill77 02-24-2010 02:34 PM

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Juan Rivera is better than Carl Crawford? Really? No really? Guy is a walking injury. This just shows how badly baseball games value defense and speed. Its a joke

keymax 02-24-2010 02:39 PM

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It actually makes sense not weight in defense too much for the LF overall rating.
LF is an offensive position. There and at 1B you hide your weakest defensive players. You can see at the SS list that defense is weighted in there much more.

slickkill77 02-24-2010 02:46 PM

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Defense is important at every position. Doesn't matter where it is. If you can prevent runs you win. The list is a joke.

mrbean5277 02-24-2010 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slickkill77 (Post 2040777713)
Defense is important at every position. Doesn't matter where it is. If you can prevent runs you win. The list is a joke.

Couldn't agree more slick. Carl Crawford is by far the best defensive LF in baseball. People claim he is injury prone for some reason also. He has averaged 146 games played since he started playing full time 8 years ago. Pretty damn good and probably in the top 15 percentile in baseball. Also the scary thing is imagine if the Rays didn't have a good defensive CF in Upton who has range, and Crawford played CF. He could even showcase his defensive prowess more so. I agree he's overrated in fantasy baseball, but when it comes to real life baseball there is no baseball player who does what he can when it comes to mixing together defense, speed, and hitting for a high average.

Speedy 02-24-2010 02:55 PM

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Carl Crawford has got to get more love.

El_MaYiMbE 02-24-2010 03:06 PM

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Jason Bay is over rated. Carl Crawford is an absolute beast (we see him 19 times a year).

Other than that I think they give too much love to power hitters. Manny is by far the worst fielder in that whole screen shot! He is a future Hall of Famer and is an amazing hitter, but Carl Crawford's 5 tool ability should outway some of the power other players have.

Doormat 02-24-2010 03:08 PM

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:D

EL_GABE 02-24-2010 03:23 PM

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even as a dodger fan i dont see manny bein a #3 maybe 5-7 yea . it looks like they tweak his batting stance n cant see if they fix his face but i like the ratings

baseball66 02-24-2010 03:43 PM

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Hollidays power vs Lefties is right on, he just doesn't hit for power against them.

GoBucs09 02-24-2010 03:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keymax (Post 2040777686)
It actually makes sense not weight in defense too much for the LF overall rating.
LF is an offensive position. There and at 1B you hide your weakest defensive players. You can see at the SS list that defense is weighted in there much more.

I can agree with you on 1B, although you prefer strong defensive players you are willing to sacrifice defensive ability for a good bat. Usually 1B is the first place you're willing to sacrifice. LF, RF and 3B are the next to go. C, SS, 2B and CF are positions you can't afford to sacrifice D for a bat, you need strong defense up the middle.

LF and RF are different though. Generally you want a strong arm in RF in order to throw to 3B, cutting down runners trying to go from first to third. A lot of parks have big left fields so it makes sense sometimes to have a speedy guy in LF. For sure though you want to have a solid bat with power in your corner outfield spots. I guess it depends on your ball park which corner outfield spot you can afford to sacrifice defense.

Bellsprout 02-24-2010 03:45 PM

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FINALLY! A BREWER! And he's on the top of the list!

*steps off ledge*

berenjena 02-24-2010 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreAllWitnesses (Post 2040777934)
FINALLY! A BREWER! And he's on the top of the list!

*steps off ledge*

What about prince fielder?:wave:

Bellsprout 02-24-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by berenjena (Post 2040777939)
What about prince fielder?:wave:

I haven't seen the 1B list yet. Is it out?

The only ones i've seen were 3B, SS, and 2B, and all of them had not one single Brewer on them. And with good reason.

SA1NT401 02-24-2010 03:53 PM

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NEVER understood the issues with ratings...Especially in THE SHOW. You cant EDIT EVERYTHING at any time. Easy as pie fix if you ask me.

Think so and so is over/under rated? Fix em yourself. With the level of control WE have...There is LITERALLY no reason to complain.

Now give me this game already.....3/2 cannot come fast enough. Cant wait to be "sick" Tuesday.

BravesBoy 02-24-2010 04:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by berenjena (Post 2040777939)
What about prince fielder?:wave:

He's 4th on the list

GEORGE LUZ 02-24-2010 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ty5oke (Post 2040777532)
What are you talking about?

Here are their major hitting attributes:

Pujols: 90,99,87,94,94,99,99
Hamilton : 85,72,91,80,58,70,85


REALLY? Should they be that close? REALLY?
Josh Hamilton has 1 season with over 19 home runs
Albert Pujols has 9 seasons with over 32 home runs, and 5 over 40.

Am I missing something here?

brewersfan84 02-24-2010 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreAllWitnesses (Post 2040777934)
FINALLY! A BREWER! And he's on the top of the list!

*steps off ledge*

LMAO I know right?

berenjena 02-24-2010 04:33 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Left Fielders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreAllWitnesses (Post 2040777947)
I haven't seen the 1B list yet. Is it out?

The only ones i've seen were 3B, SS, and 2B, and all of them had not one single Brewer on them. And with good reason.

http://www.theshowcommunity.com/showthread.php?t=49

JoeCoolMan24 02-24-2010 05:48 PM

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Is this with Carlos Quentin as a right fielder? I hope so. Carl Crawford needs to be 3-4 spots higher, and Hamilton is WAYY overrated.

humaca80 02-24-2010 06:22 PM

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Crawford should be first for sure... And Manny shouldn't even be in top 5... Although that high five-throwout at second was pretty f'n cool, and hilarious but outrageously ruhtarded(the hangover). Sorry for the bad grammer, on the iPod touchy.


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