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Brian SCEA 03-05-2011 07:48 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show - Analog Hitting/Pitching Miscellaneous Tips
 
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Originally Posted by Visionsofmastery (Post 2042173537)
If you ever played online you know most players will guess fastball so that you can't control the the location you want to throw because the meter is gone you have to guess the timing. To offset that I just threw 2 seam and cutters sinkers until I was up in the count and then used the agressive nature on 0-1 1-2 2-2 counts to throw the ball from the get go off the plate.

You don't have to guess the release timing because it's disabled when the batter guesses pitch correctly. In other words, it becomes like classic pitching in order to prevent the pitcher from breaking the guess pitch result. There is no pitch meter both visually and functionally. Guess pitch can't work without this.

Visionsofmastery 03-06-2011 12:27 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show - Analog Hitting/Pitching Miscellaneous Tips
 
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Originally Posted by Brian SCEA (Post 2042177708)
You don't have to guess the release timing because it's disabled when the batter guesses pitch correctly. In other words, it becomes like classic pitching in order to prevent the pitcher from breaking the guess pitch result. There is no pitch meter both visually and functionally. Guess pitch can't work without this.

Okay so lets say we have Manny Ramirez at the plate and I throw him I pre aim for the outside corner and the guy hitting with Manny guesses fastball, I don't have to worry about timing my release to hit my designed area? where I was throwing to if he guesses correctly? In years past you had to guess the release point in this situation so hitters would guess nothing but fastball so you had to throw breaking pitches and your second pitch aka slider or fastball until you made them frustrated enough of not getting fastballs then they guessed down the middle low zone which unless you put it on the border-line the ball would go to the middle of the plate and light up the zone.

Hitting in real baseball based on guessing only has to do with the hitters stride used mostly with no strike counts and hitters counts when the % pitch is usually a fastball , striding based on what he is looking for , most hitters now are taught to look for something 1 ball away from his power zone and moving into his zone on hitters counts and slightly moving away in pitchers even counts. This is why hitters like Albert , Manny , Ted Williams until ahead in the count looked slider because you can adjust from 84-88MPH to 82- 78 breaking stuff rather than trying to hit a 95 MPH fastball and adjust to a 78 MPH change.

I will see how the new guess pitch works and give feedback if its right or not but anytime you don't allow a player to make his pitch because someone guesses that could be a huge problem. You can guess Strausberg fastball all you want if you don't see enough pitches and time it before trying to attack he is going to blow you away lol

shipityo 03-11-2011 07:08 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show - Analog Hitting/Pitching Miscellaneous Tips
 
I've read over some of this thread. Just signed up here but I've played MLB 09 and MLB '10 pretty avidly. Bought MLB 11 the day it was released. When playing MLB 09 / 10 I always played on legend with pitching and hitting. I did really well with the PCI. My general strategy was to guess fastball most of the time and react to off speed pitches. I did REALLY well even when I guessed wrong most of the time (I was using default 1/4 for pitch guessing). However, on MLB 11 it seems like hitting has now become impossible. Everything I hit is always a weak ground ball or "just missed" foul ball. Even pitches that seem like I square up perfectly aren't going ANYWHERE. Not to mention if I guess a pitch and I'm wrong, hitting the pitch is nearly impossible.

Anyways I'm really struggling with hitting in MLB '11 after having so much success in previous versions. Did they just make it to where hitting is like 10x more difficult? For what its worth, I tried analog and had decent success, but i'm pretty bad at the whole timing thing. I kinda want to stick with PCI zone controls b/c I've used them for SO long, but if I cant even hit the ball then I might have to go to analog. Any tips or info on this would be much appreciated.

Pared 03-12-2011 09:54 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show - Analog Hitting/Pitching Miscellaneous Tips
 
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Originally Posted by Visionsofmastery (Post 2042173518)
but how about the JEDI control issue. The feature I am talking about is if the hitter guesses fastball the pitcher online loses his control of the pitch and has to guess the release point? is that finally fixed.

This was the only turn off I ever had for the show, as in baseball you can guess fastball all you want I still get my chance as a pitcher to place it where I want :D

Turn off Feedback. I had this same issue and I asked Brian to implement this way on purpose, thus the No feedback setting.

You used to lose control of your meter as a pitcher as well with No Feedback. This was no longer the case last year.

If you want to play with feedback on, then this is the penalty/reward you have to deal with. Guess pitch with feedback is more a video game feature than a representation of real baseball. No Feedback is where it is at.

Thanks again for putting that in Brian. It's the only way to play the game online/head to head IMO.

raneman85 03-12-2011 10:21 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show - Analog Hitting/Pitching Miscellaneous Tips
 
Analog pitching? Loving it sometimes the right stick locks down and it won't go up:lol: . At times when it locks it 's directly in the zone (on the line) and it's a strike. Most often it's in the dirt. Is this a mechanical/me problem or a glitch. What am I doing incorrectly?

Luke466 04-20-2011 05:52 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show - Analog Hitting/Pitching Miscellaneous Tips
 
Here's a couple things that helped me and I was TERRIBLE at hitting. I got these from the forums right here.

Always take the first pitch. If it's a strike, he'll likely throw a junk ball away (or at least expect this). If it's a ball, he likely throw a strike to stay in the count (again, expect this). I rather guess location than type of pitch and this works for me. When I use to think fastball and saw a fastball coming, I'd get excited and swing away - BAD MOVE.

I don't use the strike zone / pci. I have Guess Pitch on but only use it when I'm down in the count. Wide setting for batter.
..my 2 cents


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