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Old 10-18-2011, 03:52 PM   #9
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Re: NBA 2K12 Video - Strategy Session 7: On Ball Defense (Da Czar)

Good ish as usual Czar, Thanks for taking the time.
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Dont know how you do it but with each new itineration I become more and more impressed ... beyond all the usefull info that is illustrated through the videos, the most important thing that they do, is to show me that it can be done ! ... so, if you can, so shall I too ... yet with practice, lots of practice ... hehe.

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Great video Czar.

The only problem I seem to have is triggering the contest while recovering. A few issues regarding this:

-The contest doesn't always occur. You can't recover (for example, in the video at 5:25) and get a "real" contest. Seems like you have to be right in front of the player.
-The contest occurs but if you move the RS >ever so slightly< you will "break" the contest and your player will just stand there.
-I commit an intentional foul

I'm trying to chalk these up to user error but I've experimented on wide variety of scenarios and the only thing consistent is the inconsistency.

I'll add this is MOSTLY online... which seems to require a different approach.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:27 PM   #12
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What camera angle is he using at the beginning of this vid exactly ? (zoom and tilt too) I'm talking about the one that's going up and down, not side to side.

I think it would be easier to play defense on this on compared to the one going left and right, because you kinda lose depth perception on that one.
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Great video Czar.

The only problem I seem to have is triggering the contest while recovering. A few issues regarding this:

-The contest doesn't always occur. You can't recover (for example, in the video at 5:25) and get a "real" contest. Seems like you have to be right in front of the player.
-The contest occurs but if you move the RS >ever so slightly< you will "break" the contest and your player will just stand there.
-I commit an intentional foul

I'm trying to chalk these up to user error but I've experimented on wide variety of scenarios and the only thing consistent is the inconsistency.

I'll add this is MOSTLY online... which seems to require a different approach.
I think your 100 percent on that Pared some of the contests on move don't seem to trigger all the time. What i think I have seen though it that even though I can't see visually an animation depending on my floor position the cpu's shot grade seemed to be as low as if the contest played visually. I wonder if it's taking effect but just not showing us ?

That is just a theory based on seeing some unusually low grades based on not seeing the contest but knowing I hit the button. I have seen the same thing when doing an aggressive contest close to the offense.

Regardless it needs to give us the visual cue that what we entered has taken effect. I have reported that to the defense guys and I hope it is something they can turn on in time for a patch. Have no idea if it is that simple.

As a defender we need that consistency
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Hey Czar, just wondering what Difficulty Setting are you playing on?

Also, have you noticed the excessive bumping between the defender and the ball-handler? I can use Calderon to guard Rose perfectly since I can bump Rose with my body back out to the perimeter. In real-life it would probably be called a foul if that happened.

I would also like to see more of that snaking/sliding animation where the ball handler slips by the defender's body as he drive past him...
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