MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

[EnigmaNemesis]

Quote: Originally Posted by metsfan4life1

so its 19 total, not 19 for HR and regular swings?

19 different players signature home run follow throughs. On top of what is already in there for players.

They plan on adding to it every year.

[metsfan4life1]

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

19 different players signature home run follow throughs. On top of what is already in there for players. They plan on adding to it every year.

So no new regular swigs? Do you have any info on the Mets, when it comes to the game?

[Tabata4Prez]

I don't doubt that Gonzalez did come in to do his swing for the game. As I stated before, the developers of The Show go to great lengths to give us an amazing game every year. All that I'm saying is that follow throughs need work - not just Gonzalez's. Compare these pictures to the screenshot. Stiff front leg, legs not too spread out, top arm under the chin.

[BenGerman]

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

There is 19 new signature HR swing and follow troughs this year that was added over what was already there.

I know its going to seem like I am overreacting, but this is huge news for me. I've been asking for this forever!

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tabata4Prez

I don't doubt that Gonzalez did come in to do his swing for the game. As I stated before, the developers of The Show go to great lengths to give us an amazing game every year. All that I'm saying is that follow throughs need work - not just Gonzalez's. Compare these pictures to the swing. Stiff front leg, legs not too spread out, top arm under the chin.

I don't know how the motion capture is done generally, but I presume that mocap is done via shadow swing/pitching, without them actually hitting/throwing a ball. If that's the case, unless the player doing mocap is really putting effort into imitating his own swing, there will be some difference.

Many pitching motions don't have realistic arm actions (i.e., many of them don't have their elbow leading the way, like the Doc Gooden pic I have as my avatar) because of this. I'm just guessing...

[Blzer]

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

I don't know how the motion capture is done generally, but I presume that mocap is done via shadow swing/pitching, without them actually hitting/throwing a ball. If that's the case, unless the player doing mocap is really putting effort into imitating his own swing, there will be some difference. Many pitching motions don't have realistic arm actions (i.e., many of them don't have their elbow leading the way, like the Doc Gooden pic I have as my avatar) because of this. I'm just guessing...

Could be, because in the "Vita B-Roll" video that was released, I noticed Gonzalez didn't really have any sort of loading stride that he has in real life (like the one where his shoulder turns in a bit and his back contorts as his weight shifts back, though he keeps a level head). I'm guessing he probably has his specific load/stride in the game, so maybe just that one video didn't show it off. I'm sure if you use analog hitting, you'll be able to see it for yourself since you control your own load. If not, maybe it's just not in the game.

[Tabata4Prez]

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

I don't know how the motion capture is done generally, but I presume that mocap is done via shadow swing/pitching, without them actually hitting/throwing a ball. If that's the case, unless the player doing mocap is really putting effort into imitating his own swing, there will be some difference. Many pitching motions don't have realistic arm actions (i.e., many of them don't have their elbow leading the way, like the Doc Gooden pic I have as my avatar) because of this. I'm just guessing...

That's what it looks like. I don't even think that they'd have to go through the trouble of mocapping follow throughs to make them look better, though. Simply adding 5 to 10 follow through animations based on the swings we see in reality would be great. Most players in the MLB use a rotational swing, which puts an emphasis on rotation of the hips to generate power. The finished product of this type of swing is the player facing the pitcher, leaned back a bit with a stiff front leg. The follow through conveyed in The Show right now reflects more of a weight transfer approach which is used mostly by contact hitters or guys looking for line drives up the middle. A mixture of both would be great.

Anyway, I just realized how much I'm rambling here, haha. So I'll wrap this up.

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tabata4Prez

That's what it looks like. I don't even think that they'd have to go through the trouble of mocapping follow throughs to make them look better, though. Simply adding 5 to 10 follow through animations based on the swings we see in reality would be great. Most players in the MLB use a rotational swing, which puts an emphasis on rotation of the hips to generate power. The finished product of this type of swing is the player facing the pitcher, leaned back a bit with a stiff front leg. The follow through conveyed in The Show right now reflects more of a weight transfer approach which is used mostly by contact hitters or guys looking for line drives up the middle. A mixture of both would be great. Anyway, I just realized how much I'm rambling here, haha. So I'll wrap this up.

Yeah I agree. Sometimes looking at those follow throughs, I feel as if I'm watching a game in the Japanese league, haha... most hitters there take a weight transfer approach.

Good thing is that we can expect these things to improve in future....