MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

[Shaffer26]

Never understood the uproar over ratings. If you don't agree with them then change them! Be glad you can still edit players, unlike in Madden.

[Curahee]

Russell, can you explain this one for me please....

How is his Actual Speed greater than his Potential Speed?

[pistolpete]

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

player skill are something we estimate from watching them play

I heard the only athletes left on Earth who are judged by watching them play are offensive linemen. The rest are done with ratings extrapolated from statistics.

Dude, it's 2013. Number ratings are where it is at.

You can do a lot with number ratings. Divide an overall by an expected salary and there you have a value.

17 99s could also be meaningless because it's a number derived from an algorithm. It may mean nothing to how the games are played on the field.

[seanjeezy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Curahee

Russell, can you explain this one for me please.... How is his Actual Speed greater than his Potential Speed?

That's actually a really good sign. Players lose speed as they get older, and a 1st baseman whose goal is to get bigger and stronger will lose his speed fairly quickly.

[Curahee]

Quote: Originally Posted by seanjeezy

That's actually a really good sign. Players lose speed as they get older, and a 1st baseman whose goal is to get bigger and stronger will lose his speed fairly quickly.

OK? Im not sure I understand.

In this example, he is 18 y/o. His PS is 15.
If thats his potential, which to me means the highest he'll ever achieve, how is his AS 27?
How does that work?

[tonadom]

Quote: Originally Posted by NewbieRandomEtc

Numbers are a way better rating system than bars. Obviously, people don't like the ratings, which is fair. The Show has always been god-awful at rating players. But at least we don't have to deal with the bar system anymore.

Why do you post your opinion like it's a fact ?

Yea, it was so difficult dealing with the bar system.. ?

[seanjeezy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Curahee

OK? Im not sure I understand. In this example, he is 18 y/o. His PS is 15. If thats his potential, which to me means the highest he'll ever achieve, how is his AS 27? How does that work?

Isn't it pretty self-explanatory? Obviously it means his speed will regress...

By saying it was a good sign I was referring to the potential system, not the fact that his speed will regress... Regression in some attributes is good, that means the system is closer to mirroring what actually happens in real life.

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by pistolpete

I heard the only athletes left on Earth who are judged by watching them play are offensive linemen. The rest are done with ratings extrapolated from statistics. Dude, it's 2013. Number ratings are where it is at. You can do a lot with number ratings. Divide an overall by an expected salary and there you have a value. 17 99s could also be meaningless because it's a number derived from an algorithm. It may mean nothing to how the games are played on the field.

No, it's not quite the same thing to say that a player can be rated numerically and that a player's true skill can be rated at all. As anyone who deals with statistics in life knows, all such activities come up with *estimates* of what the numbers should represent.

I have no issues with MLB scout using 20 - 80 scale to rate players.

But I have an issue with exposing player ratings in a game like this, only because that's actually the true skill of the player. A Contact = 66 player should hit .255 on average, since the game is actually tuned precisely to produce such a player.

Unless I'm doing editing, I really don't want to know that much detail about a player. It takes fun away from me.