05:03 AM - September 11, 2008 by BrianFifaFan
The FIFA Soccer 09 demo is available, please post your impressions here.
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05:03 AM - September 11, 2008 by BrianFifaFanFIFA Soccer 09 Videos
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man, this will be a day one purchase for me. fifa hasn't done it for me on the 360 to date. i have enjoyed the demo far more than any full fifa 360 game...
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welshman11 @ 09/11/08 11:12 PM
Has anybody figured out how to hit side netting on a penalty? has anybody scored a free kick from just outside the box in the little beginning mode with ron?
I find the speed to be pretty spot on actually - and all the tactics are great to mess with this. There is not nearly that same sense of momentum ruling the day constantly as there was in 08.
The demo did lock-up on me once so far.
I find the speed to be pretty spot on actually - and all the tactics are great to mess with this. There is not nearly that same sense of momentum ruling the day constantly as there was in 08.
The demo did lock-up on me once so far.
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thegoons21 @ 09/11/08 11:17 PM
I'm sold too. I'm purposely fouling to see all the new animations and whoever mentioned the "hangtime" on the headers is spot on. So much smoother in every aspect of the animations. Tons more fouls in my 3 or 4 games too. I think the controls and speed are fine. I didn't realize you could change the speed so I'll give the slow setting a shot tomorrow. Seems they've improved almost everything gameplay related all that's left is manager mode. There may not be another sports game that touches my console for a long time once this is released....
Qb, in response to you earlier asking about how much ratings would play into players jumping and heading, in correlation to the pace of the ball off the header, this just happened to me; I sent a corner kick in and Ballack rose above everyone else, sending a header into the goal very straight and very fast. His ratings are as follows;
Heading Accuracy: 94
Jumping: 91
I have a feeling this played a huge role in the way he sent a rocket into the back of the net. Much like we've seen him do time and time again in real life.
Heading Accuracy: 94
Jumping: 91
I have a feeling this played a huge role in the way he sent a rocket into the back of the net. Much like we've seen him do time and time again in real life.
# 65
demencia_total @ 09/12/08 12:35 AM
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I agree with Acid about the FK. They look like a Randy Johnson slider with rediculous late break and movement.
player models are amazing.
the responsiveness alone has made this already a must buy.
the responsiveness alone has made this already a must buy.
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I'm loving the aerial game, I'll dominate with Adebayor in my Arsenal manager mode.
I just hope the FKs are fixed by then, they annoy the **** out of me now.
loving the demo this game will be better than last years its more responsive and setting up your tactics is fun....... change of between sprint and regular feels way more balanced.....cpu take more outside the box shots which i like keeps you honest on defense ill play more tomorow
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no it felt pretty smooth to me better than 08 imo
The demo looks great and there's so much to like, but after hours of play I have 2 growing complaints:
1.) Does anybody else feel the goalies are too good?
Having been a PES devotee for the past 5 years (except 2008), there are certain situations where I KNOW I am very likely to score if I can delicately maneuver into an opening without mistakes. Generally, if I get past the last defender with a driving shot at a decent angle, the PES goalie will at least be off-balance and forced to block the shot, if it hasn't hit the net already. Then it becomes a matter of which team can reach for the rebound, first. These kind of situations in real-life soccer are also likely to produce goals, as many of you football fans know. Granted, there are rare moments in PES when a shot will fly wide/high, depending on if striker's ratings, his body orientation to the goal, defensive pressure etc.
When playing the demo at "world class", all my shots look and feel dangerous, as they're fast and driving strikes coming at all sorts of angles but the goalie catches them with ease. I'm convinced he's applied glue to his gloves. Another possible factor to this feeling is that there's a lack of variation in shot speed. As I mentioned before, all the shots LOOK deadly, but it's hard to tell what's really a good strike. In PES, it was pretty obvious when a shot wasn't going in, but in FIFA09, since all my shots look so deadly, I feel as if the goalie should be having trouble with most of them.
Perhaps I haven't spent enough time with the game, but do you FIFA veterans have any strategies that or runs you use to consistently produce goals in this series?
2.) Speaking of a lack of variation, there doesn't seem to be too much difference between the players in ability during offense. I'm able to produce a very a similar posession% and on-target goals with Toronto as I do when using Chelsea, AC, or Real. This might not all be bad, since players who use lower ranked teams might have a chance against players using the big clubs, now but I seriously felt the difference should be more pronounced.
On the up side, the improved "physicality" is not hype! I can certainly feel my bigger defenders out-muscle weaker players off the ball.
Also, the team tactics really gives each team unprecedented strategic character. I was very impressed when a cpu-controlled AC Milan sat back on their half after going 1-0, or when Real Madrid ran their weaving plays.
1.) Does anybody else feel the goalies are too good?
Having been a PES devotee for the past 5 years (except 2008), there are certain situations where I KNOW I am very likely to score if I can delicately maneuver into an opening without mistakes. Generally, if I get past the last defender with a driving shot at a decent angle, the PES goalie will at least be off-balance and forced to block the shot, if it hasn't hit the net already. Then it becomes a matter of which team can reach for the rebound, first. These kind of situations in real-life soccer are also likely to produce goals, as many of you football fans know. Granted, there are rare moments in PES when a shot will fly wide/high, depending on if striker's ratings, his body orientation to the goal, defensive pressure etc.
When playing the demo at "world class", all my shots look and feel dangerous, as they're fast and driving strikes coming at all sorts of angles but the goalie catches them with ease. I'm convinced he's applied glue to his gloves. Another possible factor to this feeling is that there's a lack of variation in shot speed. As I mentioned before, all the shots LOOK deadly, but it's hard to tell what's really a good strike. In PES, it was pretty obvious when a shot wasn't going in, but in FIFA09, since all my shots look so deadly, I feel as if the goalie should be having trouble with most of them.
Perhaps I haven't spent enough time with the game, but do you FIFA veterans have any strategies that or runs you use to consistently produce goals in this series?
2.) Speaking of a lack of variation, there doesn't seem to be too much difference between the players in ability during offense. I'm able to produce a very a similar posession% and on-target goals with Toronto as I do when using Chelsea, AC, or Real. This might not all be bad, since players who use lower ranked teams might have a chance against players using the big clubs, now but I seriously felt the difference should be more pronounced.
On the up side, the improved "physicality" is not hype! I can certainly feel my bigger defenders out-muscle weaker players off the ball.
Also, the team tactics really gives each team unprecedented strategic character. I was very impressed when a cpu-controlled AC Milan sat back on their half after going 1-0, or when Real Madrid ran their weaving plays.
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# 74
demencia_total @ 09/12/08 08:19 AM
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My only tip so far would be to try and use the finesse shot whenever possible, specially when trying to hit an angle, instead of firing a powerful straight shot. This also works well when the GK charges you, because you can precisely place the shot around him and still be on target. It's much easier than trying a lob shot, which often goes over if the power isn't precise, and the regular power shots often drift away if not close enough to the goal.
As far as getting opportunities at goal, triggering runs for your teammates while creating space for yourself while in possession of the ball works great, as well as lob crosses after the run is triggered. It's not a surefire thing like it was in 08 to the point that it was major cheesing, but it works if the players making the run are not too close to the GK. The AI defenders react well to these this year, but it can lead to some clear chances vs the GK if timed right and with a little luck.
2) I've noticed this too, but I still think that the players with better balance and dribbling skills can survive contact better and keep possession of the ball to keep the offense flowing more consistently than the weaker ones. For example, if I try to play possession football with Toronto and the AI is being aggressive on defense, I end up losing possession easier than if I acted more proactively to push the ball forward with longer passes since their players aren't as skilled dribblers. But yeah, there doesn't seem to be a huge difference in how you can perform with the different teams, even if they are employing different tactics and are of different skill levels in the demo. It's kind of hard to pinpoint and explain, but I think I see what you mean.
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If it's there, I'd really like to try it out on slow. I believe therizing said he played all or most of his games at the community event on slow speed and was quite pleased with the results. I also think he said that the ball speed/physics are not affected by the game speed setting, which is good news as it will make smart ball movement more effective in countering aggressive defending...
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demencia_total @ 09/12/08 08:37 AM
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# 77
foreversport @ 09/12/08 08:42 AM
Wait, so what is the button to jockey for position? I'm playing on PS3, and 08 it was L2, correct?
# 78
demencia_total @ 09/12/08 08:49 AM
It's still L2. If you choose to customize your controller at the beginning of the demo, you will see it under defence controls.
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Thanks!
# 80
demencia_total @ 09/12/08 09:38 AM
No problem Qb, I myself was like wtf, this should've been part of the beginning of the demo where they ask you the questions. They should really think about making it more obvious in the full game as I think this is one of the great new features of FIFA.
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