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EA has posted the full rookie ratings for Madden NFL 10.

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"Thanks for following us the last couple of days as we've tracked a number of the incoming NFL rookies and their ratings in Madden NFL 10. Now that we're at the end of the last round of this year's Draft, it's time to release all of the rookie ratings created thus far by our ratings guru Donny Moore. The file below has all of the ratings for every rookie currently created in Madden NFL 10."

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# 81 Krodis @ 04/27/09 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Anti Honor
Wilson is 60 overall.

70 speed.
80 throw power
78 accuracy.

That's all I can remember without loading up the file.
If that's true, he's overrated. Pretty drastically overrated, to be honest.
 
# 82 Maelstrom-XIII @ 04/27/09 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LBzrule
Three Ravens rookies are missing from this file

Paul Kruger
Ladarius Webb
Davon Drew
I think Kruger is up there, but listed at LB, not DE...

Yeah, he's a 74 OVR, 73 spd, 78 tackle...
 
# 83 Anti Honor @ 04/27/09 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Krodis
If that's true, he's overrated. Pretty drastically overrated, to be honest.
Yeah. Well, you should see some of these other ratings. But, I guess I'm in the minority, since Donny Moore did a ''great job'' and all.

I deleted the file, hoping for better results before release day. Maybe some actual research done on players drafted after the first round.
 
# 84 LBzrule @ 04/27/09 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom-XIII
I think Kruger is up there, but listed at LB, not DE...

I checked LOLB and ROLB I didn't see him. I'll look again. Ok he's there.
 
# 85 Maelstrom-XIII @ 04/27/09 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Anti Honor
Yeah. Well, you should see some of these other ratings. But, I guess I'm in the minority, since Donny Moore did a ''great job'' and all.

I deleted the file, hoping for better results before release day. Maybe some actual research done on players drafted after the first round.
Now now, let's not get testy...I think overall he did a pretty decent job, just from glancing...I'm not putting too much stock into the ratings anyway...it'll change before opening day.
 
# 86 KANE699 @ 04/27/09 03:44 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn



No love for Jason Williams, 62 tackling 40 something block shedding. Man
 
# 87 KANE699 @ 04/27/09 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott
3 - OLB J. Williams - Not Listed
3 - OT R. Brewster - Not Listed
4 - QB S. McGee - 59 OVR - 70 SPD - 82 THP - 73 THA
4 - DE V. Butler - Not Listed
4 - LE B. Williams - 66 OVR - 74 SPD - 82 ACC - 68 TAK - 87 PUR
5 - CB D. Smith - 67 OVR - 85 SPD - 91 ACC - 89 AGI - 81 MCV - 69 ZCV - 90 PRESS
5 - S M. Hamlin - 70 OVR - 77 SPD - 70 TAK - 56 MCV - 65 ZCV
5 - K Buehler - 60 OVR - 93 KPW - 82 KAC
6 - SS S. Hodge - Not Listed
6 - TE J. Phillips - 64 OVR - 66 SPD - 65 CTH - 64 RBK - 60 PBK - 70 CIT
7 -CB M. Mickens - 66 OVR - 91 SPD - 92 ACC - 93 AGI - 88 MCV - 75 ZCV - 74 PRESS
7 - WR M. Johnson - 61 OVR - 86 SPD - 87 ACC - 90 AGI - 75 CTH - 67 CIT
FA - WR K. Ogletree - 53 OVR - 91 SPD - 93 ACC - 87 AGI - 63 AGI - 75 CIT
Jason Williams is in there btw.

54 OVR 87 SPD 90 ACC 62 STR 86 AGI 62 TAK 89 JMP 46 BLKSHD 81 PUR
 
# 88 Scott @ 04/27/09 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
Jason Williams is in there btw.

54 OVR 87 SPD 90 ACC 62 STR 86 AGI 62 TAK 89 JMP 46 BLKSHD 81 PUR
Oh must have missed him...
 
# 89 LBzrule @ 04/27/09 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn



No love for Jason Williams, 62 tackling 40 something block shedding. Man
Don't put him in on 3rd down. JTrain will run him slap over.
 
# 90 marcoyk @ 04/27/09 05:45 PM
BRANDON TATE HAS A 55 RETURN RATING!!!!! He only has the NCAA kick return yardage record despite missing half of his senior season. SWEET! And Brandon Tate's catching is higher than Hakeem Nicks even though he's known for his amazing catching ability... for proof watch UNC's 09 bowl game vs. West VA. And Tate has higher strength and trucking ratings than Nicks even though Nicks is much more of a physical player. AND Nicks has a higher speed rating than Tate even though Tate is surely faster than Nicks. Not a fan of these ratings. I'm hoping that Tate's low speed is due to his torn ACL and MCL.
 
# 91 #1EaglesFan1973 @ 04/27/09 07:11 PM
Crap I don't have Excel toview all the Ratings.

Can someone be a pal & tell me what the Ratings (every skill attribute listed if ya could please instead of just the main attributes??) are for the following Players drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles??

WR-Jeremy Maclin
RB-LeSean McCoy
TE-Cornelius Ingram
CB/S- Victor "Macho" Harris

Thanks!!
 
# 92 kcarr @ 04/27/09 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by #1EaglesFan1973
Crap I don't have Excel toview all the Ratings.

Can someone be a pal & tell me what the Ratings (every skill attribute listed if ya could please instead of just the main attributes??) are for the following Players drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles??

WR-Jeremy Maclin
RB-LeSean McCoy
TE-Cornelius Ingram
CB/S- Victor "Macho" Harris

Thanks!!
Maclin
Overall 79, Speed 96, ACC 98, STR 58, AGI 96, AWR 62, CTH 86, JMP 87, RET 85, INJ 91, STAM 92, TGH 78, TRK 49, ELUS 93, BCV 90, Stiff 65, Spin 93, Juke 93, SPEC 87, CIT 86, RTE 68, REL 75

McCoy
Overall 75, speed 92, ACC 96, STR 64, AGI 94, AWR 45, CTH 75, CAR 72, Jump 80, RET 65, INJ 89, STAM 88, TGH 75, TRK 58, ELUS 92, BCV 77, Stiff 65, Spin 92, Juke 94, SPEC 70, CIT 74, RTE 77

Ingram
Overall 63, Speed 83, ACC 86, STR 65, AGI 85, AWR 60 CTH 83, CAR 71, RBK 44, PBK 40, JMP 87, INJ 72, STAM 80, TGH 55, TRK 56, ELUS 53, BCV 81, STIFF 70, Spin 80, Juke 82, IBL 39, RBS 44, RBF 48, SPEC 87, CIT 76, RTE 78, REL 78

Harris
Overall 73, Speed 86, ACC 88, STR 65, AGI 89, AWR 45, CTH 78, CAR 60, TAK 54, JMP 91, RET 60, INJ 94, STAM 92, TGH 88, TRK 55, ELUS 54, BCV 80, STIFF 42, Spin 84, Juke 84, PMV 55, FMV 60, BLKSHD 58, PUR 75, PLAYREC 57, MCV 76, ZCV 85, SPEC 76, CIT 74, POW 69, PRESS 84
 
# 93 kcarr @ 04/27/09 07:34 PM
One thing I have noticed with these rookie ratings is that awareness is very low for everyone. In past years they did this but people wouldn't progress greatly in this area so the current rookie class goes through their hole career more athletic than the rest of the league but with lower awareness. Incoming classes however would fit in more with the rest of the league. Hopefully with the potential caps on the ratings this will be fixed as far as the current class and hopefully with the future classes being pre created they will be more in line with current rookies and develop to fit in with the rest of the league like the current rookies should.
 
# 94 #1EaglesFan1973 @ 04/27/09 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kcarr
Maclin
Overall 79, Speed 96, ACC 98, STR 58, AGI 96, AWR 62, CTH 86, JMP 87, RET 85, INJ 91, STAM 92, TGH 78, TRK 49, ELUS 93, BCV 90, Stiff 65, Spin 93, Juke 93, SPEC 87, CIT 86, RTE 68, REL 75

McCoy
Overall 75, speed 92, ACC 96, STR 64, AGI 94, AWR 45, CTH 75, CAR 72, Jump 80, RET 65, INJ 89, STAM 88, TGH 75, TRK 58, ELUS 92, BCV 77, Stiff 65, Spin 92, Juke 94, SPEC 70, CIT 74, RTE 77

Ingram
Overall 63, Speed 83, ACC 86, STR 65, AGI 85, AWR 60 CTH 83, CAR 71, RBK 44, PBK 40, JMP 87, INJ 72, STAM 80, TGH 55, TRK 56, ELUS 53, BCV 81, STIFF 70, Spin 80, Juke 82, IBL 39, RBS 44, RBF 48, SPEC 87, CIT 76, RTE 78, REL 78

Harris
Overall 73, Speed 86, ACC 88, STR 65, AGI 89, AWR 45, CTH 78, CAR 60, TAK 54, JMP 91, RET 60, INJ 94, STAM 92, TGH 88, TRK 55, ELUS 54, BCV 80, STIFF 42, Spin 84, Juke 84, PMV 55, FMV 60, BLKSHD 58, PUR 75, PLAYREC 57, MCV 76, ZCV 85, SPEC 76, CIT 74, POW 69, PRESS 84
Thanks Brotha!!!
 
# 95 IlliniM1ke @ 04/28/09 01:25 AM
Would anyone mind posting the Browns picks overall ratings?

1) C- Alex Mack
2) WR -Brian Robiskie
2) WR - Mohamed Massaquoi
2) LB - David Veikune
4) LB - Kaluka Maiava
6) DB - Don Carey
6) DB - Coye Francies
6) RB - James Davis
 
# 96 Megatron2k7 @ 04/28/09 03:42 AM
I don't have a much of a problem with the overall ratings I've seen on the rookies...... I am just puzzled on some of the physical attributes I'm seeing.

Donny said our input could still change some of the Rookie ratings..... I'd like for Donny to take a closer look at OLB Clay Matthews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7dA...eature=related

He is rated a few points lower than USC teammate OLB Brian Cushing, which may be warranted, but I think Cushing shouldn't be rated faster, I think they should be at least equal in the speed department, and Matthews needs some pretty high acceleration. His 10 yd split was the fastest of any non-WR player at the entire Combine.

Even though I know Combine numbers aren't everything.... I think they need to be looked at, and considered as the main staring base..... that's what they're there for. If a player runs a great 40, then he should be considered fast until proven otherwise on game film. Some players are the opposite, and just seem to play faster than their 40 time would indicate. In those situations..... the players should be rated accordingly, within reason. The problem I'm seeing, is that some players have both..... good combine numbers, and look good on film, yet Donny still has them rated lower in areas like speed, acceleration, and strength, than others with equal or lesser Combine numbers.

The physical attributes should be the easiest for Donny to get right. It's the awareness, and skill sets that should be what really seperates the good from the bad. I really hate seeing inflated physical attributes on some players just to ensure that they are good. (Tom Brady's 99 throwing power was the biggest joke I've ever seen in a physical attribute.)

Here are the combine numbers for Matthews and Cushing. Look how close they are except for in Cushing's outstanding Bench reps......

Clay Matthews.......

40-yard dash: 4.62 (4th best for all LB's)

20-yard time: 2.68

10-yard time: 1.49

Bench press: 23 (tie for 7th for all LB's)

Vertical jump: 35 1/2 (tie for 3rd best for all LB's)

Broad jump: 10' 01" (3rd best for all LB's)

Cone drill: 6.90 (2nd best for all LB's)

20 yd. Shuttle: 4.18 (2nd best for all LB's)



Brian Cushing.........

40-yard Dash: 4.74 (7th best for all LB's)

20-yard split: 2.62

10-yard split: 1.53

Bench Press: 30 reps ( tie for1st among LBs)

Vertical jump: 35.0" (tie for 4th best for all LB's)

Broad jump: 10'0 (6th best for all LB's)

Cone drill: 6.84 (1st among LBs)
20 yd Shuttle: 4.22 (4th best for all LB's)


I'm not asking for a big increase in Matthews rating...... just a few tweaks here and there physically. Right now he is rated 75 overall, and Cushing is at 78. I'm ok with that, Cushing is a better tackler, has more experience (AWR), and is stronger...... but he's not faster, or quicker than Matthews..... His combine numbers prove it, and I've seen nothing on game film to think otherwise.
 
# 97 feeq14 @ 04/28/09 06:07 AM
I dont konw about you guys, but these ratings in my opinion dont conform to what i remembe beng a rethought ratings scale. I still se some guys with ratings that are a bit out of order or a bit too high.

Perfect example is leasean McCoy. He was considered the slowest RB out the bunch and didnt run well at all in the offseason but he has a 92 in spd. All of the top DEs have 80 in spd even though most of them were not considered edge rusher types. Maybin and English were widely considered the most explosive rush ends. The only Ends with over 80 spd should prolly be Micheal Johnson and Maybin.

It does seem to be in effect for corners and WRs though. However their route running and coverage stats seem a bit skewed.

Overall i think these ratings need a lot of work, or i will be doing a lot of teaking
 
# 98 R9NALD9 @ 04/28/09 08:08 AM
wonderfullllll...was really glad to see Michael Crabtree's overall rating being 84. So pleased the 49ers drafted him! Can't wait playing with the 49ers in madden 10.
 
# 99 TheTodd84 @ 04/28/09 02:09 PM
someone on here said that Donny Moore has said "137 times" that 40-yard dash is not the only thing that goes into speed... what kind of logic is this? the 40-yard dash is used to measure LONG SPEED. There is NO OTHER GAUGE of long speed than the 40-yard dash, other than the 100-yard dash.

So what is Donny Moore using to determine speed? Because the "speed" rating should ONLY be long speed. That's why there is an acceleration rating to determine how QUICK guys are that do not necessarily have great long speed. And for a running back, that is usually better.

So whoever earlier complained about Tiquan Underwood, who ran one of the fastest 40s of all the receivers having the same speed rating as Chris Wells has a legit gripe. Wells is fast enough, but he is by NO means even within 10 yards of Tiquan in any sort of race down the field.

So I dunno what Donny uses to determine speed ratings, but it is way off. The ONLY thing he should use to determine speed ratings are 40 times bc how do you measure "game speed" vs 40 speed in madden? You simply cannot.

Also, How does Jeremy Maclin who didn't run sub-4.4 in the 40 have a speed rating SEVEN POINTS higher than Tiquan Underwood, who ran a 4.34. Just doesn't make sense. Is Maclin a better receiver? Absolutely. But is he faster than Tiquan Underwood? No sir, he is not.

That's like saying, well we haven't seen Usain Bolt run on a football field yet and we dunno if he has "game speed" even though he ran a 9.6 in the 100 meters. But wait, we all know that Bolt is the fastest man EVER, so if we created him he would get a 100 speed rating, right? So why does Tiquan Underwood, who has better long speed than Maclin get a lower speed rating? Maclin may appear faster bc of better acceleration, but long speed? Nope.
 
# 100 djKianoosh @ 04/28/09 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTodd84
someone on here said that Donny Moore has said "137 times" that 40-yard dash is not the only thing that goes into speed... what kind of logic is this? the 40-yard dash is used to measure LONG SPEED. There is NO OTHER GAUGE of long speed than the 40-yard dash, other than the 100-yard dash.

So what is Donny Moore using to determine speed? Because the "speed" rating should ONLY be long speed. That's why there is an acceleration rating to determine how QUICK guys are that do not necessarily have great long speed. And for a running back, that is usually better.

So whoever earlier complained about Tiquan Underwood, who ran one of the fastest 40s of all the receivers having the same speed rating as Chris Wells has a legit gripe. Wells is fast enough, but he is by NO means even within 10 yards of Tiquan in any sort of race down the field.

So I dunno what Donny uses to determine speed ratings, but it is way off. The ONLY thing he should use to determine speed ratings are 40 times bc how do you measure "game speed" vs 40 speed in madden? You simply cannot.

Also, How does Jeremy Maclin who didn't run sub-4.4 in the 40 have a speed rating SEVEN POINTS higher than Tiquan Underwood, who ran a 4.34. Just doesn't make sense. Is Maclin a better receiver? Absolutely. But is he faster than Tiquan Underwood? No sir, he is not.

That's like saying, well we haven't seen Usain Bolt run on a football field yet and we dunno if he has "game speed" even though he ran a 9.6 in the 100 meters. But wait, we all know that Bolt is the fastest man EVER, so if we created him he would get a 100 speed rating, right? So why does Tiquan Underwood, who has better long speed than Maclin get a lower speed rating? Maclin may appear faster bc of better acceleration, but long speed? Nope.
just because Maclin ran a 4.45 or whatever at the combine doesn't mean that's how fast he is. in a highlight I saw of his from college the announcer clearly said he ran a 4.3... so maybe he just had a bad day at the combine. just put on the game tape. the kid is a burner and always separated himself by far. his long speed is damn fast.
 


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