06:32 PM - May 26, 2009 by iamemmittsmith
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shotgun the colts did the same thing and noone said anything then, people only got pissed cause they were the patriots. Sportsmanship be damned, if you want to be respected as a team play your best till the whistle blows. If you suck, that isn't the other team's fault.
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And saying Favre, Roethlisberger, and McNabb are better game breakers than Brady and Manning? Are you high? The only way they break the game is with A. Favre's idiotic picks (see week 17 against the Dolphins) B. Roethlisberger holding the ball too long because he's an indecisive QB and getting sacked 50 times, and C. McNabb throwing the ball in the dirt on 3rd downs.
Saying Roethlisberger won a Super Bowl on his own is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. He probably had the worst performance of all-time by any QB in a Superbowl in Superbowl 40, and was pretty bad in the last Superbowl until that last drive. They wouldn't have even had a chance if not for that 99 yard fumble return by Harrison.
Saying Roethlisberger won a Super Bowl on his own is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. He probably had the worst performance of all-time by any QB in a Superbowl in Superbowl 40, and was pretty bad in the last Superbowl until that last drive. They wouldn't have even had a chance if not for that 99 yard fumble return by Harrison.
Only problem I have with these rating is Nnamdi is not known to be fast CB 94 speed is really fast even for him he was a safety at Cal and ran like one that is what makes him more amazing he is not as fast as Madden makes him but he is still able to shut down speedy Wr. In Madden must he have the speed to be as good as he is ?
Also didn't they say they were going to dramatically change the speed ratings? They all seem pretty much the same to me.
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kjcheezhead @ 05/27/09 12:31 PM
People want to give all the credit for the success Brady and Manning have had to their systems, but IMO Big Ben is a product of his system. Compare his stats to Joe Flacco (a rookie). Almost identical and the Ravens were 1 game away from the bowl themselves. Why is that? They play in an almost identical system. Is any one saying Flacco is top 5 material?
You have to use some statisical analysis to evaluate qbs, but I agree it doesnt have to be everything. Montana didnt rewrite the record books, but he wasnt getting sacked, fumbling and throwing a equal number of picks and tds either.
You have to use some statisical analysis to evaluate qbs, but I agree it doesnt have to be everything. Montana didnt rewrite the record books, but he wasnt getting sacked, fumbling and throwing a equal number of picks and tds either.
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cowboyscowboys @ 05/27/09 12:49 PM
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Ben's only in his 5th year as a starter and threw more picks than TDs in his 3rd year when he was rushed back from a life threatening motorcycle accident and appendectomy, and had a severe concussion midseason. Peyton had more picks than TDs in his rookie season and threw 23 picks his 4th year in the league. Brady has never been an interception thrower, but that's in part because he's a dink-dunker who's only averaged over 11.4 yards/completion 3 times in his career, and when he's averaged more it's due to his receivers having a lot of YAC. As for them being so godly to avoid sack... you're kidding yourself. They have great offensive lines and when faced with pressure they are no better than average. See Tom Brady in Super Bowl 42 and Peyton Manning against the Steelers at home 3 years ago.
I also agree with everything that's been said about Daunte and how Brady and Moss cheaped their way to that record. Anybody remember the 2nd Dolphins game that year when the Pats were shut out in the second half because Brady kept trying to force it to Moss when they were up 28-0 and he threw 2 picks? Manning in 2004 did NOT play that way. And he had a far superior season (in my opinion). Brady threw 81 more passes than Manning and only had 1 more TD and a much lower ypa despite having a higher completion %. Manning also sat out a few 4th quarters when the team was ahead and he only threw 2 passes in the season ender that year while Brady was throwing deep up 40-0.
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LilChris2434 @ 05/27/09 01:20 PM
LOL! Adrian Petersons carry is a 69. Sounds about right. That's the only thing killing us man, the FUMBLES!!!.
~Vikings '09 Be Easy.
~Vikings '09 Be Easy.
Its official Patrick Willis is going to be a beast in Madden. But whats up with Phillip Rivers TP at 81? Im not going to bash the rating because it might be accurate for him but its still pretty low. And Tom Brady i think should be either a 92-95 range because you generate power from you legs and he is still recovering from the knee injury.
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Colts defenses' played:
Patriots 9th
Packers 25th
Jaguars 11th
Raiders 30th
Chiefs 31st
Texans 23rd
Vikings 28th
Bears 21th
Lions 22nd
Titans 27th
Ravens 6th
Chargers 18th
Broncos 4th
Average rank: 20th
Patriots' defenses played:
Jets 18th
Chargers 14th
Bills 31st
Dolphins 23rd
Cowboys 9th
Redskins 8th
Giants 7th
Ravens 6th
Steelers 1st
Browns 30th
Bengals 27th
Colts 3rd
Eagles 10th
Average rank: 14th
As you can see Brady played against better competition and in worst conditions than Manning. Also Brady had 2 rushing TDs that year Manning had 0 in 04, Brady could have easily thrown those. Is not Brady's fault that the defenses couldn't stop him.
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Jennings hasn't had better back to back season than any of those players you mentioned other than Boldin. But I do agree that he should be like a 91.
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1. Andre Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. Randy Moss
4. Steve Smith
5. Calvin Johnson
6. Anquan Boldin
7. Reggie Wayne
8. Greg Jennings
9. Roddy White
10. Brandon Marshall
But I think that TO falls somewhere in the top 10.
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kjcheezhead @ 05/27/09 02:35 PM
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Well seeing how Owens was named tenth, I would go with the nine in front of him a Greg Jennings and possibly his new teammate Lee Evans.
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iAM-IncReDiBLe- @ 05/27/09 02:43 PM
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Terrell Owens is a fantastic wide receiver. Personally, though, I never felt that Owens would run all the routes. If I'm wrong, I'm willing to admit it, but that's always my feeling. That being said, I have trouble suggesting that Owens isn't as good as someone like Roddy White or Jennings. Yes, Owens is 35 years old, but until he shows me he's lost it, I'm not so sure.
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PGaither84 @ 05/27/09 03:10 PM
Those who know me, know I am a big Tom Brady fan... and I honestly think they mixed Manning and Brady's ratings up. Manning should have higher THP and THAD. Tommy should have higher THAS and THAM. Tom should have 92 THP, or 90 after the injury. I thought that in 07 he should have capped out at the 94-96 range, not at 99. He is known for his ability to put the ball where he wants to, and he throws near perfect short and medium passes. He can throw a good deep ball, but Moss is just as much the reason there were so many deep completions.
I am surprised Westbrook is so overrated, Frank gore is slightly underrated [his trucking should be a lot higher and elusive a tad lower. carry just right until he shows he can hold on to the ball.] I am upset that Vernon Davis didn't make the top 10 [concidering Z. Miller did...] and wish there was a better break down defensively. At leat all Line, all LBs, and all secondary.
I am surprised Westbrook is so overrated, Frank gore is slightly underrated [his trucking should be a lot higher and elusive a tad lower. carry just right until he shows he can hold on to the ball.] I am upset that Vernon Davis didn't make the top 10 [concidering Z. Miller did...] and wish there was a better break down defensively. At leat all Line, all LBs, and all secondary.
# 180
KensaiKatai @ 05/27/09 03:30 PM
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yea cuz runnin a 4.36 at 6'2 215 (they list him at 210) isn't fast or anything....
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