05:27 AM - December 10, 2009 by homeycool
Madden NFL 10 patch #2 is now available for the Xbox 360. Please post your impressions here.
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Can somebody please tell me if anything has been done with supersim? Less big plays or something like that or do the stats look like pre patch?
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SonicZulu25 @ 12/12/09 07:21 AM
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dunno if anyone has pointed it out, its not a hb breaking out of a 4 man scrum, its a maul 
sorry im a brit and rugby is my first love 
sorry im a brit and rugby is my first love
I am amazed when playing online, there are rarely any penalties called. 
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sportyguyfl31 @ 12/12/09 09:06 AM
The zones that are supposed to cover the flats..now generally cover them, althought you still see the occasional glitched out animation.
Pursuit angles now look better as well
Pursuit angles now look better as well
After playing 10 or so play now game to get my sliders right after the second patch, all in all I'd say the game play in improved. My last 5 of the 10 play now game were much more competitive then before the patch. Beofre the patch I rarely if ever lost to the CPU, out of my last 5 games I lost 3 of them.
I finaly started my Chiefs franchise, only 4 months after the games release, I still have a few things that bug me and I'd like to see fixed for Madden 11.
1. Run Blocking, Maybe I can tweak this with the sliders, but I'm still seeing lineman looking very confused as to whom they should be blocking. Several times I've seen a lineman not even block anyone and I get nailed for a loss.
2. I usually play on Hardcore, but sense I've finally started a franchse I decided to play on Advanced so I can get the replays. The replays are horrible, player movements look awkward, and the camera need to be zoomed out more, it's way to close.
3. Challenge the play system. This is broken in my opinion. To many times I challenge the call and the CPU gets it wrong , mostly on WR's feet being in or out of bounds. Also we need to be able to more accurately choose what we are challenging. I honestly do not understand why EA can't just look at 2k's challenge system and use that, it's better and it works. I'm a professional drummer, if I see another drummer do a certain fill better then I do , I will use that to improve my playing, same thing, put the ego aside and make improvents.
4. Penalty system. I've played a lot of games pre patch and about 12 post patch and I have never seen pass interference called, even with the sliders set to 100. Way to many face masks and no pass interference, I have even hit the WR early on purpose, no call.
EDIT: I can't believe it , I just saw my first PI call. All I had to do was poat about not ever seeing one and I get a call. Nice. Maybe it's because I'm playing franchise games instead of play now games, Never saw one before.
Other then those 4 things, I'm good with the game at this point. I'm only one game into my 1st season in franchise so I may find more, but all in all at least I can now enjoy playing the game.
One more thing, I like the Extra Point weekly wrap up show.
I finaly started my Chiefs franchise, only 4 months after the games release, I still have a few things that bug me and I'd like to see fixed for Madden 11.
1. Run Blocking, Maybe I can tweak this with the sliders, but I'm still seeing lineman looking very confused as to whom they should be blocking. Several times I've seen a lineman not even block anyone and I get nailed for a loss.
2. I usually play on Hardcore, but sense I've finally started a franchse I decided to play on Advanced so I can get the replays. The replays are horrible, player movements look awkward, and the camera need to be zoomed out more, it's way to close.
3. Challenge the play system. This is broken in my opinion. To many times I challenge the call and the CPU gets it wrong , mostly on WR's feet being in or out of bounds. Also we need to be able to more accurately choose what we are challenging. I honestly do not understand why EA can't just look at 2k's challenge system and use that, it's better and it works. I'm a professional drummer, if I see another drummer do a certain fill better then I do , I will use that to improve my playing, same thing, put the ego aside and make improvents.
4. Penalty system. I've played a lot of games pre patch and about 12 post patch and I have never seen pass interference called, even with the sliders set to 100. Way to many face masks and no pass interference, I have even hit the WR early on purpose, no call.
EDIT: I can't believe it , I just saw my first PI call. All I had to do was poat about not ever seeing one and I get a call. Nice. Maybe it's because I'm playing franchise games instead of play now games, Never saw one before.
Other then those 4 things, I'm good with the game at this point. I'm only one game into my 1st season in franchise so I may find more, but all in all at least I can now enjoy playing the game.
One more thing, I like the Extra Point weekly wrap up show.
# 167
johnkorean @ 12/12/09 10:59 AM
Haven't played in a couple months, but I have a general question about some of the problems people are still noticing after patch 2. It seems like a lot of the remaining issues (blockers not knowing who to block, bad calls on sideline catches, etc.) could be considered intentionally random simulation of "human error." Personally, I feel that if this stuff is intentional, it's brilliant. After all, if you see crappy refereeing on Sundays, then it should be in the game, right?
Does anyone have any idea if this might be what they're going for, or is some of this so outrageously egregious that it has to be a glitch or simply poor programming?
Does anyone have any idea if this might be what they're going for, or is some of this so outrageously egregious that it has to be a glitch or simply poor programming?
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johnkorean @ 12/12/09 11:03 AM
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Madden 08 felt smoother but that was due to how "arcadey" the game was overall imo.
There's a fine line between really smooth/responsive gameplay and realism. You want the things happening in the game to play a part of the responsiveness of the controls but on the other hand you want the game to be completely 100% responsive.
While I feel that madden 10 is responsive overall I like how pro-tak has added a better general feel to your player making him feel less responsive in certain situations though I do feel like it can be better and hopefully it will be for 11.
The madden 10 demo was worse when it came to this. Do you remember how Pro-tak was in the demo for 10? In the demo your player was basically stuck.
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# 172
Yeah...THAT Guy @ 12/12/09 12:50 PM
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# 173
sportskid84 @ 12/12/09 01:03 PM
The chain gang is still very active on cut scenes. Have anybody run into the injury bug on here? Calvin johnson got hurt with the loins and delmas name came up instead of his,has anyone seen that yet?
# 174
PGaither84 @ 12/12/09 01:08 PM
I got home from a trip two days ago and finally got a chance to pop in Madden 10 and play a post-patch game. There were improvements, no doubt, but not a lot I could tell right off. I used default sliders and played on All-Pro with my most recent updated online roster [I try to keep a save of each roster update as a seperate save file] and was stomping the Giants 55-10 entering the 4th quarter at the Meadowlands before turning the game off. The blocking was better, I was getting a few sacks which I liked and the computer was throwing less stupid picks/pick6's at least in that game [0 ints thrown, but two droped that would have not gone to the house becasue they were in the middle of the field with all the traffic].
I like what I saw in general, however the computer still blizted a lot. I scored in my two min drill at the end of the half when I came out 4 wide in shot gun and the Giants sent 8. Just a flick to Vernon Davis and spin move on the deep middle safety for the score. A lot of my scoring came off of quick passes against the 6 or 7 man blitz. Frank Gore had 25 carries for over 225 yards already in the game. Again, I turned my X-Box off in the 4th because it was a blow out.
I didn't notice terrible pursuit angles, but I forgot to look for them also. They just weren't glaring which was a good thing. I'll play more tonight in practice mode against prevent defense to be sure. Also, I want to test man flats coverage to see if they still have the stupid initial move that takes defenders out of position or not.
My largest complaints about M10 were terrible pursuit angles, poor computer playcalling, and ratings not really mattering. I can't speak to pursuit angles for sure yet, but the last two are still a problem. I think I am going to keep playing MW2
I like what I saw in general, however the computer still blizted a lot. I scored in my two min drill at the end of the half when I came out 4 wide in shot gun and the Giants sent 8. Just a flick to Vernon Davis and spin move on the deep middle safety for the score. A lot of my scoring came off of quick passes against the 6 or 7 man blitz. Frank Gore had 25 carries for over 225 yards already in the game. Again, I turned my X-Box off in the 4th because it was a blow out.
I didn't notice terrible pursuit angles, but I forgot to look for them also. They just weren't glaring which was a good thing. I'll play more tonight in practice mode against prevent defense to be sure. Also, I want to test man flats coverage to see if they still have the stupid initial move that takes defenders out of position or not.
My largest complaints about M10 were terrible pursuit angles, poor computer playcalling, and ratings not really mattering. I can't speak to pursuit angles for sure yet, but the last two are still a problem. I think I am going to keep playing MW2
# 175
PGaither84 @ 12/12/09 01:17 PM
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Maybe it is your defensive play calling that is keeping you from stoping the computer, but moving the ball agaisnt the computer is way too easy.
One thing that makes me very happy is that the Wr's are now jumping appropriately when making a catch.
It looks much smoother.
It looks much smoother.
# 177
Hassan Darkside @ 12/12/09 02:38 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned, but has anybody noticed formation subs saving from game to game? I subbed in a power back in the I formation in my Franchise and it retained that sub till the next game and till the next. Nice feature.
Any change in frequency of subs and injuries (multiple week) post-patch?
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DirtyJerz32 @ 12/12/09 04:08 PM
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# 180
RogueHominid @ 12/12/09 05:31 PM
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