07:07 PM - August 25, 2010 by blackflash83
This video explains what Real AI will bring to the table in NBA Elite 11.
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07:07 PM - August 25, 2010 by blackflash83NBA Elite 11 Videos
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I was already said by reanimator(not sure who) that next week we'll surely see some 5vs5 gameplay
I'm basically going to act like I didn't see this video and hold my thoughts until I see some real gameplay videos and the demo. I'm kind of at a loss for words at this point.
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Sounds Good Looks Good....Cant Wait For The Demo And Some Gameplay Videos
I guess we will see the demo within the next two weeks.
From a marketing stand point its quite obvious they hold back gameplay videos - beacuse it looks a lot worse than 2k. They want the gamers out there to overlook the graphics - try the game themselves and be left impressed with the controls. I doubt we will see gameplay videos till the demo drops which I guess will be early september.
From a marketing stand point its quite obvious they hold back gameplay videos - beacuse it looks a lot worse than 2k. They want the gamers out there to overlook the graphics - try the game themselves and be left impressed with the controls. I doubt we will see gameplay videos till the demo drops which I guess will be early september.
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And one of the biggest reasons why I think 2K has been able to put out so many vids is they have had a presentable build for a while. A lot of EA's stuff has looked real rough, while 2K has had a smooth looking game since the beginning.
Rob Jones said "I would be happy if they released the game today" and that was when the game was still in early development. Where as with EA you could immediately tell that the game was still in early development due to glitches.
2K is just moving at a much faster rate this year then they ever have so now they have more time to put out more vids. Where as EAC is moving at a MUCH slower pace then we are used to from them.
Its like the roles have switch now EAC is "hiding" there game where as 2K is dropping video after video now..
^^ Makes sense. We're a few days away from September. So this whole "still looking rough" thing isn't going to carry much weight for a whole lot longer. I'm going to hold off any overarching statements about the game until I play the demo for a while. But this Real AI video definitely has me a bit nervous as to the current state of the game. Even if that build was a couple months old, why have 18 foot dunks from a standing position over a defender with no running start? This was the first EA bball game in like 4 years I was actually excited for and I'm starting to get that "let down" feeling creeping in after seeing that done not once, but a few times in that latest vid.
Oh yea the early development argument won't work anymore, I used that as more of an example of why the team didn't release vids during that time.
And you're right those dunks were downright ugly but its not something I'm expecting so see whole lot of. I saw things like that in Live 10 vids too but it wasn't commonplace in the actual game especially on higher difficulties.
And one of the devs rEAnimator has said 5 on 5 vids should be coming next week so lets hope that stuff isn't in any of those vids.
And you're right those dunks were downright ugly but its not something I'm expecting so see whole lot of. I saw things like that in Live 10 vids too but it wasn't commonplace in the actual game especially on higher difficulties.
And one of the devs rEAnimator has said 5 on 5 vids should be coming next week so lets hope that stuff isn't in any of those vids.
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FearlessKaz @ 08/26/10 07:11 PM
Yeah, I dunno if I could live with seeing those kind of dunks happening at all.
I'm all for the total control element, but giving a player the ability to dunk from the free throw line without any forward momentum shouldn't even be a possibility.
I'm all for the total control element, but giving a player the ability to dunk from the free throw line without any forward momentum shouldn't even be a possibility.
Well...
It depends. I think it's good to have more in depth moves for the computer to do, but it'd have to work a certain way.
If you think about it as a chess game, opposed to having each move individually programmed in, it would have openings... and if that's what it is, that'd be cool. But it would have to know when to break out of the openings and use them as a set up for other counter moves if it's stopped. Would be lame to know KD was going to pump fake and go to the rim and just stand there and take the charge or get him in some contact animation 15 feet from the basket.
I mean, you guys should know what the computer is going to do at all times if you play NBA Live. It's just a matter of stopping it. If they could come out with 'real moves' that were actually something similar to what a player would do (even better, the real NBA player who programmed them in) it would be great.
But if they become overpowered go-to moves that a person can exploit every time... that's bogus. I'd rather it just be something purely for the computer to add some extra flavor.
-Smak
It depends. I think it's good to have more in depth moves for the computer to do, but it'd have to work a certain way.
If you think about it as a chess game, opposed to having each move individually programmed in, it would have openings... and if that's what it is, that'd be cool. But it would have to know when to break out of the openings and use them as a set up for other counter moves if it's stopped. Would be lame to know KD was going to pump fake and go to the rim and just stand there and take the charge or get him in some contact animation 15 feet from the basket.
I mean, you guys should know what the computer is going to do at all times if you play NBA Live. It's just a matter of stopping it. If they could come out with 'real moves' that were actually something similar to what a player would do (even better, the real NBA player who programmed them in) it would be great.
But if they become overpowered go-to moves that a person can exploit every time... that's bogus. I'd rather it just be something purely for the computer to add some extra flavor.
-Smak
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i think if a dunk from the 46 second mark is going to be in the game, the game needs to understand if theres momentum or not. If no momentum and a gamer accidently does a dunk like that, then it needs to be a rim stuffer everytime.
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-Smak
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These clips are extremely discouraging. Monster dunks off of 2 feet, from just inside the FT line, with NO forward momentum? I thought these were supposed to be "real" physics?
I didn't touch 2K for 2 months last year because I was so impressed with Live's movement and responsive controls. IMO they should have just built off that, added more depth of animations (signature, post up, contact, etc) and gone from there. I can see why Mike Wang disagreed with this direction. While I hope it can be a fun, balanced basketball experience, it definitely won't be an "authentic NBA experience".
I'll definitely give the demo a shot, the developers are certainly putting everything they can into this. Good luck!
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