05:21 PM - April 5, 2011 by Steve_OS
With the recent news of EA Sports launching its next NBA simulation title in the Fall of 2012, how does that make you feel, about the upcoming NBA 2K12? Nervous, confident? Let us know.
NBA 2K12 News Post
05:21 PM - April 5, 2011 by Steve_OSWith the recent news of EA Sports launching its next NBA simulation title in the Fall of 2012, how does that make you feel, about the upcoming NBA 2K12? Nervous, confident? Let us know.
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Take for example a 3-on-1 fastbreak situation. In 2K11, lead passing is so powerful that if you pass to a teammate cutting in from the foul-line extended, the pass will literally lead him under the hoop. And 9/10 times the pass will get picked off because you're passing right to the defender. So instead of an easy 2-points you get a turnover.
When you try to emulate a real life situation but the final result is the opposite of what you'd expect in real life, it's really frustrating. These are just small annoyances but they're frequent and they add up.
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This is a GREAT game. Perfect? No... But probably the most complete sports game I've played in my life of gaming (easily top 5). I'm 37 and find this game to be immensely enjoyable. Most of the problems this game has can be fixed with slider tweaks (just like every other game).
Turnovers are a part of the NBA game... If you watch a game you'll sometimes shake your head in disbelief. This game captures that. There are flaws in this game, but they've kept the exploits to a minimum.
I am strictly an offline player, so anything to do with online has no bearing on my thoughts... I cannot speak for that aspect of this game. But a solid game that can only get better...
Turnovers are a part of the NBA game... If you watch a game you'll sometimes shake your head in disbelief. This game captures that. There are flaws in this game, but they've kept the exploits to a minimum.
I am strictly an offline player, so anything to do with online has no bearing on my thoughts... I cannot speak for that aspect of this game. But a solid game that can only get better...
2k8 was 2ks last attempt at a game that played sim not just looked sim, but it was ruined by some stupid stuff like lock on D and lead passes.
I'm not confidence in where 2k is going period... but I always hear all of the hype and am like "Oh well I gotta try it... maybe it really is different." But it never is. 2k9, 10, 11... burned again. I dunno if I can mess w/ Live 10 for another year though.
I dunno what EA is doing... and I dunno why people dig 2k's game like it's so great. They must not understand basketball on a deep level other than what they watch on TV.
-Smak
I'm not confidence in where 2k is going period... but I always hear all of the hype and am like "Oh well I gotta try it... maybe it really is different." But it never is. 2k9, 10, 11... burned again. I dunno if I can mess w/ Live 10 for another year though.
I dunno what EA is doing... and I dunno why people dig 2k's game like it's so great. They must not understand basketball on a deep level other than what they watch on TV.
-Smak
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# 111
DurtySoufReppin @ 04/10/11 01:14 PM
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# 113
DurtySoufReppin @ 04/10/11 02:13 PM
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but I'm sure die hard basketball fans would like to play with the greatest player of all time and one of the biggest Sports Icons in the history of sports? lol
come on now... put your personal interests to the side and be reasonable.. I don't play with Jordan that much neither because I don't play offline that much but it is a great luxury to have him in the game..
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# 115
Boilerbuzz @ 04/18/11 10:23 AM
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Let's not get it twisted - you're talking about a video game here. It's a game. The people that make these games are highly intelligent, but this is not rocket science. There are few guys in the industry that have PhDs in physics and psychology. So to model the REAL life game is basketball takes more than a team of artists, video game designers, and software engineers. And what you're asking for is exactly that - a true simulation of every aspect of the physical world. Well, get over it; you're NOT going to that any time soon. You have guys with PhDs that are STILL trying to figure out how the human body thinks and moves. You still have NBA head coaches still trying to figure out the best strategies and how to motivate players. You still have NBA players that continue to work on their games and minimize their mistakes. Yet, you want a VIDEO GAME do be able to simulate it all perfectly? Come on.
If you don't like that game, that's cool. But I agree with coolcras7; you seemed to be trolling trying to claim it's the "worst". Seriously? It's not perfect, but it mops the floor with almost every other sim *basketball video game* ever made. It's sold never 4 million units - more than any other basketball sim ever if I'm not mistaken. So, yeah, your opinion is in the minority. To compare it's sales to other games in high volume genres shows an ignorance to the industry. Sports video games don't have the same reach as games like COD or Halo. So to say it "would have sold 10 million" is silly. You forget that there's HUGE section of the video game audience that doesn't play ANY sports. The people that play both is a lighter portion. The guys that love the game actually go outside to play it - not sit by a TV to do it.
Again, I have much respect for your differing opinion. But some of your statements fly in the face of evidence to the contrary and that has you coming off as a troll. I'm not sitting here defending the game. I'm just saying that there are many flaws in your statements and that many people seems to really enjoy the game for many of the qualities you claim to dislike or you claim don't exist.
But if you have legit gripes; instead of just saying you think the game sucks, back it up. There are many sticky threads that you can use. If you've used them, great - I'm sure VC will see your comments. If your complaints are valid to the devs, I'm sure they'd be addressed at some point.
# 116
spankdatazz22 @ 04/18/11 01:47 PM
Well said Boilerbuzz
While I'm extremely confident in NBA2K12, one thing I do fear - and I hate to bring it up - is EA going after NBA exclusivity sometime in the near future. Given the success of NBA2K11 (it's consistently charted top 10 sales since it released 5-6months ago, which is pretty remarkable) and EA choosing to wait another year for their basketball entry, one way they could catch up quickly is to stalemate competition until they catch up.
From what I've read an NBA lockout is all but guaranteed and it seems owners are pushing for a restructuring, similar to what the NHL had to do to get it's financial house in order. Would seem like a time when David Stern might be more open to having boatloads of cash thrown at him. Would harm basketball gaming for sure, but hey - some people still defend EA's role with the NFL/NCAA exclusives despite the obvious harm it caused football gaming. EA would get a lot of flak but they're probably immune to the negativity internally.
While I'm extremely confident in NBA2K12, one thing I do fear - and I hate to bring it up - is EA going after NBA exclusivity sometime in the near future. Given the success of NBA2K11 (it's consistently charted top 10 sales since it released 5-6months ago, which is pretty remarkable) and EA choosing to wait another year for their basketball entry, one way they could catch up quickly is to stalemate competition until they catch up.
From what I've read an NBA lockout is all but guaranteed and it seems owners are pushing for a restructuring, similar to what the NHL had to do to get it's financial house in order. Would seem like a time when David Stern might be more open to having boatloads of cash thrown at him. Would harm basketball gaming for sure, but hey - some people still defend EA's role with the NFL/NCAA exclusives despite the obvious harm it caused football gaming. EA would get a lot of flak but they're probably immune to the negativity internally.
games are always going to be scrutinized and compared to each other in the same genre as a benchmark of quality,and nba 2k and live/elite for that matter are no different.but what i think is that sports titles should be compared to the sport it is trying to simulate first b4 comparisons to each other .and then you as a consumer of what ur most likely to have fun with.is it an arcade type experience u want or u wanna get down to the stats and actuality of the real life counterpart the game is trying to simulate.
with that being said fun and expectations are what u make of it and whatever fits that bill is more likely ur comfort zone and by all means do indulge urself based on ur own opinion and nobody else's. EA obviously wants to regain the confidence in their product with time but this doesn't by any means discredits TAKE TWO to want the same giving the absence of a competitor.and by all means we should not compromise our thoughts and facts about this talented bunch at 2k sports to deliver their product despite given such a short developing time frame of sports title of more or less 1 year.we should sit back give them room to first fail if so be the case and then by all means we have grounds to lay or opinions based on judgments.but until that so happens to reveal itself then TAKE TWO has nothing but a solid foundation when it comes to innovations and the prosperity of the franchise to moved forward.
so the question remains With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12
given the track record of TAKE TWO.....yes my man STEVE, yes i am.
with that being said fun and expectations are what u make of it and whatever fits that bill is more likely ur comfort zone and by all means do indulge urself based on ur own opinion and nobody else's. EA obviously wants to regain the confidence in their product with time but this doesn't by any means discredits TAKE TWO to want the same giving the absence of a competitor.and by all means we should not compromise our thoughts and facts about this talented bunch at 2k sports to deliver their product despite given such a short developing time frame of sports title of more or less 1 year.we should sit back give them room to first fail if so be the case and then by all means we have grounds to lay or opinions based on judgments.but until that so happens to reveal itself then TAKE TWO has nothing but a solid foundation when it comes to innovations and the prosperity of the franchise to moved forward.
so the question remains With No EA Sports Sim Basketball Title Until 2012, Are You Confident in NBA 2K12
given the track record of TAKE TWO.....yes my man STEVE, yes i am.
# 118
rspencer86 @ 04/19/11 01:05 PM
I think one thing that is important to consider is just how important the NBA 2K franchise is to 2K Sports and Take-Two as a whole. If you look at it, 2K Sports is clinging on by a thread. It's been well documented that the MLB 2K series has been a black hole financially since the semi-exclusive agreement was signed. The Top Spin series does well internationally, but it's not a giant units-mover. The NHL 2K series is seemingly on life support. College Hoops series has already been cut due to financial reasons.
In other words, 2K Sports and Take Two can't afford NBA 2K to have an "off year." It's the only sports title that is succeeding for them right now. It's the one game that is keeping 2K sports afloat. If the NBA 2K series starts to trail off, I'd bet Take Two would just drop the division completely.
So, although there is no direct competition from EA again this year, the pressure is still very high for the dev team to deliver a major hit.
In other words, 2K Sports and Take Two can't afford NBA 2K to have an "off year." It's the only sports title that is succeeding for them right now. It's the one game that is keeping 2K sports afloat. If the NBA 2K series starts to trail off, I'd bet Take Two would just drop the division completely.
So, although there is no direct competition from EA again this year, the pressure is still very high for the dev team to deliver a major hit.
# 119
Nickman310 @ 05/28/11 07:37 PM
HERE IS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN THAT IS REALLY SIMPLE:
2k should make it so that the fans are realistic. I think everyone has noticed that the crowd does the same thing the whole game. They jump up and wave their hands around at random times. Also, the bench reactions should be much better. Just play the game and you will see what i am talking about.
2k should make it so that the fans are realistic. I think everyone has noticed that the crowd does the same thing the whole game. They jump up and wave their hands around at random times. Also, the bench reactions should be much better. Just play the game and you will see what i am talking about.
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