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Greg Miller of IGN sat down with Cam Weber on the IGN set at E3 to talk Madden NFL 25 and what the Ignite Engine means to next-gen Madden.

"(The Ignite Engine) is best in class tech from all of our franchises," Weber said.

The new locomotion system within the new generation of Madden was developed by both the Madden and FIFA teams alongside each other. Weber was particularly high on the new system, "The thing that makes Madden feel special on Gen-4 is our new true step locomotion sytem," Weber said. "You have much more control over every move."

Weber said that Player Sense makes 50x more calculations a second than Madden on current gen.

"It's like taking the blindfold off. They (digital players) can see the entire field, all the players and objects around them and they can react on the fly to what everyone else is doing," Weber said.

Weber said the additional power allows for the extra calculations from players and the new physics engine, which will add more depth than ever to Madden NFL Football.

When asked about what this could mean on a practical level, Weber elaborated on the line play, "The line of scrimmage has so much going on this year, whether it's run blocking or pass blocking it's completely overhauled."

Weber went on to talk about pocket awareness and pre-snap targeting and how offensive linemen will dynamically change assignments starting from the center outwards, just like in real football. This dynamic shifting of assignments continues as the snap occurs as well, Weber said.

And the big one, when asked about the generational leap and the possibly of features lost, Weber responded, "It will be a fully featured Madden right out of the gate. We're not losing any depth."

Weber said Connected Franchise was built with this generation in mind, so there won't be any depth lost as you upgrade from the current generation to Madden on the Xbox One and PlayStation 4.

While we've long suspected this was the case, it's nice to officially hear that Madden will be losing no depth as it makes the generational leap.

How does this affect your perception of the upcoming next-gen Madden?

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# 21 tc2884 @ 06/12/13 08:19 PM
that video of the next gen madden looked terrible...the running looks awful the tackling looks bad and the foot planting is horrid
 
# 22 XeJ1021 @ 06/12/13 08:32 PM
Wow, you all just love to complain... And some of you may actually be blind!!! How can you possibly say this looks like current gen Madden when there was an OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE in the Juke Moves and Player Control, there was an OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE in the movement and fluidity of the new OL/DL Blocking Scheme & Reaction... and how in the world did you guys not notice that... THERE WAS NO MORE HUNCHBACK RUNNING!!!!!! YESSSSS!
 
# 23 BV11 @ 06/12/13 08:44 PM
Man, I was totally hyped after the trailer, but after seeing this video... meh. Doesn't look very good to me. They still have not nailed the player movement. PS2 Momentum/Running animations STILL look better than this. That is what disappoints me the most.

Peterson looks like he is "prancing" more so than running like an NFL RB. I just can't believe it still isn't right after Player movement was one of the 3 main principles that the ignite engine was based off of.
 
# 24 tyberious4now @ 06/12/13 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cbearsfreak
And please, just stop complaining and learn to be grateful we finally got to see ACTUAL gameplay instead of close-up replay angles. Learn to be thankful, life gets a lot easier.
This^^^^!!!
 
# 25 jpdavis82 @ 06/12/13 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BV11
Man, I was totally hyped after the trailer, but after seeing this video... meh. Doesn't look very good to me. They still have not nailed the player movement. PS2 Momentum/Running animations STILL look better than this. That is what disappoints me the most.

Peterson looks like he is "prancing" more so than running like an NFL RB. I just can't believe it still isn't right after Player movement was one of the 3 main principles that the ignite engine was based off of.
The trailer footage was from a later build than the E3 demo, FWIW. Keep in mind, this is like seeing current gen in March, plus it's even a greater difference because they are using new technology and a new console to build the game. This game will most likely improve drastically in the next 4 months. This is not Madden 06 all over again in any shape or fashion. This team under Cam Weber gets it, stop living in the past guys, and get pumped for next gen and the future of Madden! The future is SO bright.
 
# 26 gr18 @ 06/12/13 09:07 PM
Yes,life is terrific but people are still going to have opinions based off of what they see.Some will find things they accept in current gen unacceptable if they're going to evaluate whether they'll fork out the big bucks for a new system.It would have to be substantially better for some while others may find it to be or make themselves believe it is.It's a matter of opinion.
 
# 27 sportzbro @ 06/12/13 09:10 PM
After watching this again without the hype goggles on, they still can't make players move/run like humans. It's just like a straight standing jog still. Graphics are nice though..
 
# 28 DorianDonP @ 06/12/13 09:10 PM
That. Video. Looks. Awful.

I came in this thread hyped to see my first real gameplay of next gen football. And now I wish I hadn't seen it.

 
# 29 bxgoods @ 06/12/13 09:12 PM
The video looked ok, I'll hold off judgement becuase you can tell its a pre alpha build. I hope that's the reason I see so many old animations from m 13.

The game still has 3 more months of development to go, I hope they take out all of m13 animations by then.
 
# 30 jpdavis82 @ 06/12/13 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DorianDonP
That. Video. Looks. Awful.

I came in this thread hyped to see my first real gameplay of next gen football. And now I wish I hadn't seen it.

Did the trailer look good to you during the press conference? That is a better indicator of what this game will be like. The demo was just a practice run with AP and it's from a older build of the game than we saw in the trailer. Several people including EA employees at E3 confirmed the demo was older than the trailer. The trailer was all in game footage, nothing was rendered.
 
# 31 BV11 @ 06/12/13 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdavis82
The trailer footage was from a later build than the E3 demo, FWIW. Keep in mind, this is like seeing current gen in March, plus it's even a greater difference because they are using new technology and a new console to build the game. This game will most likely improve drastically in the next 4 months. This is not Madden 06 all over again in any shape or fashion. This team under Cam Weber gets it, stop living in the past guys, and get pumped for next gen and the future of Madden! The future is SO bright.
I never said it was Madden 06 all over again, I just really thought the player movement would be nailed down, especially because of what the ignite engine was supposed to be based around. You are totally right and it could look way different by release, we will see. The movements just looked so similar to current gen besides the elimination of hunchback running, but the running animations still looked subpar.
 
# 32 DorianDonP @ 06/12/13 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdavis82
Did the trailer look good to you during the press conference? That is a better indicator of what this game will be like. The demo was just a practice run with AP and it's from a older build of the game than we saw in the trailer. Several people including EA employees at E3 confirmed the demo was older than the trailer. The trailer was all in game footage, nothing was rendered.
It was hard to tell if I liked the trailer. My conclusion in the threads was "I need to see real gameplay instead of all of these slow mo close ups."

I can't comment on how it will look months from now. I can only comment on what I watched. And what I watched looked really bad.

I can excuse old builds to a first gen release, but I can't front like I have faith in EA making monumental improvements from builds to final versions.

I do agree that the dude explaining how they build Madden sounds legit. On the flip, it hurts my soul that guys like the interviewer are who reviews these sports games. Dude was so lost. Seems like he'd much rather be talking about NBA Jam.
 
# 33 Eman5805 @ 06/12/13 09:40 PM
It's like they're high quality plastic action GI Joe figurines, the ones that were like 3 inches tall? I don't see get a sense of weight to anything. Players bounce off each other, change directions...

*sigh*

I don't wanna go another 6 years without playing Madden...I was with them from the beginning...but this? I...I'll give the demo a chance down the line. Maybe it feels tigher than...it looks? I dunno.
 
# 34 roadman @ 06/12/13 10:02 PM
Recommends people listen to this analysis and maybe people might feel differently.

Made sense to me and others.

 
# 35 ConnSKINS26 @ 06/12/13 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta
The words fully featured makes me skeptical, why didn't he just say Madden 25 next-gen will have all the features Madden 25 current gen has. Makes me think some things may not make it to the next-gen version.
People will pick apart literally anything, apparently.

Fully-featured is really self-explanatory.
 
# 36 H to the Oza @ 06/12/13 10:15 PM
the running finally looks slowed down
 
# 37 bucs34236 @ 06/12/13 10:18 PM
Pretty much looks like last years madden with foot planting. Thought I was going to see something amazing, but it didn't happen. None of the tackles looked organic/real to me. Im very disappointed, I thought next gen meant innovation. The game seriously does't even look next gen.
 
# 38 Cusefan @ 06/12/13 10:30 PM
Kinda surprised they even showed this, it's a pre-alpha or Alpha build, this is not even close to a finished product. Anyone complaining about this has to keep in mind that this game is months away, the video breakdown keeps all this in mind and the guy is obviously impressed(he is usually very critical of madden).

If it comes September and it still a mess then you should worry.
 
# 39 Cusefan @ 06/12/13 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MaddenSaints
The video looks like current gen, standard EA. disappointment every single year.
It's a pre-alpha build, chill
 
# 40 jmik58 @ 06/12/13 10:44 PM
It's definitely/obviously a step up from current gen, but I really don't think the first year of a new system is ever a good time to judge a game that is released on a yearly cycle. The players did seem to lack weight (compared to my expectations) and I'm really curious if all of these AI/programming changes have been implemented for all defensive players the way they've upgraded for offensive players and linemen. A true read-and-react programming logic needs to be implemented for all defensive players.

As much as aesthetics and player movement are important, my biggest expectation from next-gen is getting the players to think and react more like humans. The capability is there on the new systems to get this done, but the programming has to be done correctly by someone who understands the mental aspect of the game from the perspective of each position/player on the field.
 


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