02:01 PM - August 6, 2013 by Steve_OS
2K Sports has revealed a new blocking system in NBA 2K14, which will also include the ability to block dunks.
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02:01 PM - August 6, 2013 by Steve_OS2K Sports has revealed a new blocking system in NBA 2K14, which will also include the ability to block dunks.
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# 161
spankdatazz22 @ 08/10/13 02:05 PM
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Another crying point in the forums was the "please remove the canned animations/canimations" push because so many are focused on technology buzzwords around here - which they tried to comply with. The inability to block dunks - not all blocks, as you're trying to imply, was likely a side effect of no longer having as many preset animations play out. Now that they try to let the community they're addressing a concern the community collective had with blocks in 2K13, you try to imply they're "marketing blocks as something new" when they really aren't. As they've said, it's an improvement on what they were doing previously.
If they said nothing, there would be all types of freaking out concerns fromt he community: "They're not saying they addressed [whatever issue] - may as well assume they didn't/they suck/blah blah blah". They let you know they tried to address a concern so some flip it the opposite way, just so long as it's perceived as a negative. It would seem pretty silly to improve blocks, but intentionally remove the ability to block a dunk.
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thedream2k13 @ 08/10/13 03:02 PM
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thedream2k13 @ 08/10/13 03:03 PM
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# 166
RyanFitzmagic @ 08/11/13 03:44 AM
My friend hit me with this feedback:
Based on the new shot-blocking engine, since blocked dunks are a big part of it, there should be a dichotomy between Posterizers and Erasers, in that a Posterizer's dunk cannot be blocked by anyone but an Eraser (with the exception of blocks from behind).
I love the idea.
Based on the new shot-blocking engine, since blocked dunks are a big part of it, there should be a dichotomy between Posterizers and Erasers, in that a Posterizer's dunk cannot be blocked by anyone but an Eraser (with the exception of blocks from behind).
I love the idea.
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Players in the NBA that would be considered "Posterizers" have gotten blocked by players that wouldn't be considered an "Eraser".
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# 168
RyanFitzmagic @ 08/11/13 03:58 AM
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Man, it's so many ways I can go w/ this. Say 2K keeps the limit to 5 SS's. Lets look at LeBron. He doesn't have "Eraser", you telling me every person in the NBA should just posterize LeBron because he don't have that SS? It's other players that don't have that SS that could easily have it.
Ok, videos even though I shouldn't need it because its common sense.
Turiaf blocking Kobe's dunk. Knowing the 2K insider, in 2009, could have made Kobe a "Posterizer". So in 2K this definitely shouldn't happen.
Hickson blocking the poster boy himself, Blake Griffin. Hickson isn't a "Eraser".
Okafor blocks Stoudemires dunk. Okafor isn't an "Eraser" in 2K13 and Stoudemire is a "Posterizer".
Bledsoe blocking JR Smith. You telling me this cannot possibly happen to a "Posterizer"? I believe JR Smith could be labeled a "Posterizer" by the 2K insider. Even though he isn't, JR Smith is close to that and is getting blocked by a 6'1" PG
Faried blocking Westbrook. Faried currently doesn't have "Eraser" (which he should imo), cannot block a "Posterizers" dunk because he doesn't have the SS? Westbrook is one of the most athletic players in the NBA, he could put you on a poster easily but he doesn't have, just like LeBron doesn't but we both know they are.
Tim Duncan blocks Blake Griffin. Timmy currently isn't labeled an "Eraser".
Haslem blocks Kobe. In 2008, Kobe could've gotten the "Posterizer" but Haslem blocked his dunk and never been an "Eraser".
Just look for yourself and I am sure many more happened over NBA history. Saying it should be impossible is asinine.
Like he said:
# 170
yungsta404 @ 08/11/13 05:35 AM
eraser is just a type of shot blocker that tries to spike the ball as hard as possible and send it to the 5th row instead of keeping it inbounds. Guys like javale mcgee and deandre jordan are notorious for doing that.
They are not necessarily better blockers than non eraser shot blockers like a tim duncan or a bill russell who block shots and try to keep it inbounds and tip it to a teammate. They are just flashier.
Eraser to shot blocking is the equivalent of highlight reel to dunking so it doesnt make sense to only give erasers the ability to block posterizers.
They are not necessarily better blockers than non eraser shot blockers like a tim duncan or a bill russell who block shots and try to keep it inbounds and tip it to a teammate. They are just flashier.
Eraser to shot blocking is the equivalent of highlight reel to dunking so it doesnt make sense to only give erasers the ability to block posterizers.
# 171
RyanFitzmagic @ 08/11/13 06:11 AM
Lets look at LeBron. He doesn't have "Eraser", you telling me every person in the NBA should just posterize LeBron because he don't have that SS?
Since when are the only two options here "Block dunk" and "Get posterized"? FOH.
Turiaf blocking Kobe's dunk. Knowing the 2K insider, in 2009, could have made Kobe a "Posterizer". So in 2K this definitely shouldn't happen.
Stop. Just stop. Kobe was never a posterizer.
Faried blocking Westbrook. Faried currently doesn't have "Eraser" (which he should imo), cannot block a "Posterizers" dunk because he doesn't have the SS? Westbrook is one of the most athletic players in the NBA, he could put you on a poster easily but he doesn't have, just like LeBron doesn't but we both know they are.
Westbrook is definitely not a posterizer. There are only a few in the league-- Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, maybe Dwight Howard if he returns to form, and that's pretty much it. There's no way you can argue anybody else except maybe healthy Derrick Rose.
Bledsoe blocking JR Smith. You telling me this cannot possibly happen to a "Posterizer"? I believe JR Smith could be labeled a "Posterizer" by the 2K insider. Even though he isn't, JR Smith is close to that and is getting blocked by a 6'1" PG
You're just playin yourself now. JR Smith is not an amazing in-game dunker. He only dunked period 30 times in 80 games last year. I'll be damned if he's a posterizer.
In 2008, Kobe could've gotten the "Posterizer"
Stop. He's not Vince Carter. He's not even LeBron James, who I don't think should have Posterizer, since he doesn't look to dunk over people consistently. He finishes layups through contact.
Tim Duncan blocks Blake Griffin. Timmy currently is labeled an "Eraser".
Then what's your point?
Okafor blocks Stoudemires dunk. Okafor isn't an "Eraser" in 2K13 and Stoudemire is a "Posterizer".
Too bad that footage ain't from 2013.
Hickson blocking the poster boy himself, Blake Griffin. Hickson isn't a "Eraser".
Congratulations. You found one anomaly. Anyone who knows logic would realize that a single outlier doesn't make a formula completely inaccurate.
Just look for yourself and I am sure many more happened over NBA history. Saying it should be impossible is asinine.
Know what else is impossible? Knocking a player down by setting a screen if you don't have "Brick Wall." smfh 2K. jrocc says step ya game up and stop wit that "impossible" ish.
They are not necessarily better blockers than non eraser shot blockers like a tim duncan or a bill russell who block shots and try to keep it inbounds and tip it to a teammate. They are just flashier.
It's pretty hard to be a "flashy" shot-blocker. Eraser is more about giving the shot-blocker's team momentum and taking momentum from the other team by making emphatic blocks that send a message, which Russell and Duncan did very often. I'd give both of them Eraser in a heartbeat.
Since when are the only two options here "Block dunk" and "Get posterized"? FOH.
Turiaf blocking Kobe's dunk. Knowing the 2K insider, in 2009, could have made Kobe a "Posterizer". So in 2K this definitely shouldn't happen.
Stop. Just stop. Kobe was never a posterizer.
Faried blocking Westbrook. Faried currently doesn't have "Eraser" (which he should imo), cannot block a "Posterizers" dunk because he doesn't have the SS? Westbrook is one of the most athletic players in the NBA, he could put you on a poster easily but he doesn't have, just like LeBron doesn't but we both know they are.
Westbrook is definitely not a posterizer. There are only a few in the league-- Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, maybe Dwight Howard if he returns to form, and that's pretty much it. There's no way you can argue anybody else except maybe healthy Derrick Rose.
Bledsoe blocking JR Smith. You telling me this cannot possibly happen to a "Posterizer"? I believe JR Smith could be labeled a "Posterizer" by the 2K insider. Even though he isn't, JR Smith is close to that and is getting blocked by a 6'1" PG
You're just playin yourself now. JR Smith is not an amazing in-game dunker. He only dunked period 30 times in 80 games last year. I'll be damned if he's a posterizer.
In 2008, Kobe could've gotten the "Posterizer"
Stop. He's not Vince Carter. He's not even LeBron James, who I don't think should have Posterizer, since he doesn't look to dunk over people consistently. He finishes layups through contact.
Tim Duncan blocks Blake Griffin. Timmy currently is labeled an "Eraser".
Then what's your point?
Okafor blocks Stoudemires dunk. Okafor isn't an "Eraser" in 2K13 and Stoudemire is a "Posterizer".
Too bad that footage ain't from 2013.
Hickson blocking the poster boy himself, Blake Griffin. Hickson isn't a "Eraser".
Congratulations. You found one anomaly. Anyone who knows logic would realize that a single outlier doesn't make a formula completely inaccurate.
Just look for yourself and I am sure many more happened over NBA history. Saying it should be impossible is asinine.
Know what else is impossible? Knocking a player down by setting a screen if you don't have "Brick Wall." smfh 2K. jrocc says step ya game up and stop wit that "impossible" ish.
They are not necessarily better blockers than non eraser shot blockers like a tim duncan or a bill russell who block shots and try to keep it inbounds and tip it to a teammate. They are just flashier.
It's pretty hard to be a "flashy" shot-blocker. Eraser is more about giving the shot-blocker's team momentum and taking momentum from the other team by making emphatic blocks that send a message, which Russell and Duncan did very often. I'd give both of them Eraser in a heartbeat.
# 172
alabamarob @ 08/11/13 06:12 AM
The other half of blocking dunks is calling fouls and recognizing in air contact. If the new game can register a player hacking another mid air and allowing that hack to prevent a dunk or layup animation from playing out as if no contact has occured the the new blocking system will be great. When you swing for a block it should either be a whif if the defender touches nothing, a block if the defender only gets ball, and a hack animation if the defender hits the arms/head/ body of the offensive player. One of 2ks legacy issues is the lack of fouls an inability to register the defenders arm and hand contacting the offensive players body. That is why 2k has limited fouls and to many dunks. The dunks, lack of fouls, and high pip all revolve around this legacy issue.
# 173
mango_prom @ 08/11/13 06:24 AM
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The same with dunks.
If you have dunk/vertical maxed out in addition to flashy dunk packages, this will make you "posterize" defenders quite often. So what do we even need those sig skills for if the rating system works as it should?
Making a Posterizer's dunk unblockable even if they're trying to dunk on a 7 footer with high block rating, good timing and position but no sig skill is dumb
Increasing the likelihood of an eraser blocking a dunk is good.
Decreasing the likelihood of a Posterizer getting their dunk blocked is good.
Binary in off impossible to block sig skills are dumb.
Increasing the likelihood of an eraser blocking a dunk is good.
Decreasing the likelihood of a Posterizer getting their dunk blocked is good.
Binary in off impossible to block sig skills are dumb.
# 175
mango_prom @ 08/11/13 08:08 AM
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Also for things like chasedown the boosts are situational. So that a guy doesnt have boosted speed and block ratings all game only when and where its nexessary to have a higher % chance of actually seeing tha chasedown.
I know you were referring to that particilar one but it was the best example I could think of to answer your question of if this could be accomplished without abilities.
Does this new blocking system imply a new shooting foul/mid-air contact system?
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Kevin Durant, one of the guys you say thats a posterizer blocked by Jason Smith. Smith currently has like a 58 blocking rating. I guess if KD had the SS posterizer, this would have never happened lol.
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# 179
stillfeelme @ 08/11/13 12:45 PM
There should be no rules for only an eraser can block a posterizer. That's just silly. Blocks seem like they are going to be about timing and rating.
Eraser
Example Players: Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Serge Ibaka
A player with this skill is known for protecting the rim with emphatic, crowd pleasing blocks. When an Eraser swats a shot, he boosts the energy of his teammates and decreases the shooting attributes (up to six points) of the player he blocked for up to a minute and a half.
Posterizer
Example Players: Blake Griffin, Josh Smith, Hakim Warrick
A player with this skill will often look to dunk on defenders when attempting a dunk in traffic. To get this skill to trigger there must be a defender in the vicinity. To force big-time contact dunks, his stamina must be above 80. Once the dunk completes, his teammates will be given a temporary energy boost.
Eraser
Example Players: Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Serge Ibaka
A player with this skill is known for protecting the rim with emphatic, crowd pleasing blocks. When an Eraser swats a shot, he boosts the energy of his teammates and decreases the shooting attributes (up to six points) of the player he blocked for up to a minute and a half.
Posterizer
Example Players: Blake Griffin, Josh Smith, Hakim Warrick
A player with this skill will often look to dunk on defenders when attempting a dunk in traffic. To get this skill to trigger there must be a defender in the vicinity. To force big-time contact dunks, his stamina must be above 80. Once the dunk completes, his teammates will be given a temporary energy boost.
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