04:23 PM - September 26, 2013 by FloorGeneral
Here is the official statement from EA Sports:
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NCAA Football 14 News Post
04:23 PM - September 26, 2013 by FloorGeneralHere is the official statement from EA Sports:
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That isn't what windfall means as they aren't going to receive a large sum of money in some judgement from this case, I don't think anyone disagrees with your point really though... just usage of that word and maybe your expectations of how much money NCAA FB games actually make.
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# 482
simgamer0005 @ 01/25/14 05:48 PM
Is there any correlation to the NCAA football series ending to the BCS ending as well? Has there ever been this amount of uncertainty going into a college football season? When July 2014 rolls around, there will be no college football game for sale, and we will be heading into a college football season with no BCS rankings.
Could there be a correlation to this new world of college football and without something like the BCS governing it. This is such a dramatic change to college football after the last 15 or so. Yet no one really is talking about how it will be different. You would think by now there would be more in-depth offseason discussions of how to better judge college football teams after a season. Yet instead all people are concerned about right now is which players are going to the NFL draft, what their stock is. Where's the discussion about how teams will be judged in college football next year? Is the timing of all this uncertainty in college football just coincidence or is there more to it?
Could there be a correlation to this new world of college football and without something like the BCS governing it. This is such a dramatic change to college football after the last 15 or so. Yet no one really is talking about how it will be different. You would think by now there would be more in-depth offseason discussions of how to better judge college football teams after a season. Yet instead all people are concerned about right now is which players are going to the NFL draft, what their stock is. Where's the discussion about how teams will be judged in college football next year? Is the timing of all this uncertainty in college football just coincidence or is there more to it?
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# 484
simgamer0005 @ 01/25/14 06:50 PM
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Lets say they could make a video game this year. How would they design the Season / Dynasty mode in NCAA 15 if there was a new game coming out? No one really knows what college football will be like next season without the BCS standings, you know? The Dynasty mode in the NCAA games (on PS2 and PS3) has always revolved around the BCS standings. Isn't it interesting that the BCS system ran out the same year that EA's NCAA license ran out?
Don't see how it could be considered anything other than a coincidence. A $40m settlement is a far cry from the potential liabilities of continuing the develop the game and lose a larger lawsuit, much bigger factor ambiguous direction designing the post-season of the next game.
Nothing but a coincidence.
And it isn't like the format the NCAA will be using now is a huge mystery.
And it isn't like the format the NCAA will be using now is a huge mystery.
# 487
simgamer0005 @ 01/25/14 08:45 PM
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One thing I hear is that now the two semi-finals (Rose and Sugar next season) will be both played on New Year's Day. Which is pretty cool, and apparently the other major bowls like Fiesta and Cotton will be played on either New Year's Eve or New Year's Day. (New Year's Eve major bowls is a huge change) From what it sounds like, there won't be major bowls being played on Jan 2nd through January 4th anymore. I think a lot of stuff is still being decided, like where the Championship Final played on Jan 12th 2015 (apparently) will be held. (I am reading it will probably be in Arlington, TX)
The format of deciding who plays in the two semi-finals is a bit of a mystery. You have a small group of people making a decision, rather than the harris and coaches poll and computer rating that changed throughout the BCS era. I think overall it will be better, but it is a huge change. Had the EA NCAA series license been renewed, I think it would be hard from them to design dynasty mode. How would you program the game to evaluate teams in close proximity in Dynasty Mode? It's kind of amazing that the first year there is a playoff there is no college football game.
I am sure there are massive threads in the appropriate forum for most of that post. Otherwise I don't see the issue, they could do as little as take the top 4 and there's your playoff teams. I don't see how you could attach that development. Remove the emotion and human element and consider the raw mechanics. They already determine top teams, just needs to be reinterpreted and messaged in a different format.
# 489
simgamer0005 @ 01/25/14 09:22 PM
Take the Top 4 of what though? The BCS ranking determined the Top 2 teams automatically. Now a committee actually has to make a decision after a long season on who are the 4 best or most deserving teams are. Really what I'm asking is if there was an NCAA 15 game, how would they determine who the 4 teams that make the semi-finals are? You can't just say "Top 4" because now there's no BCS ranking. Would it be the Top 4 of the harris or Top 4 of the coaches? Who the top 4 are after a long season is hugely debatable.
Here's where I think that it's not just a coincidence. I don't think they'd be able to release a game with a Dynasty mode. If there was an NCAA 15, likely they'd just program the game to make a "random" decision as to which teams get into the semi-finals without giving any information or criteria as to how those teams was chosen. It's much different in college basketball where you have half the field getting automatic bids. In the 4 team college football playoffs, there's no auto bids like in march madness. I think the role of conference championship weekend needs to be evaluated.
Obviously it will be assumed that the winner of the SEC championship game will be one of the teams in the play-off, but everything else is kind of an unknown. Who would have made a 4 team playoff this year? Auburn, Florida State, and who would be the 3rd and 4th? How would the committee determine who is more deserving for semi-final spots after that? In the BCS, after #1 and #2, it didn't really matter, as the bowls selected who they wanted in an order. But now this committee will have to evaluate more than just the Top 2, but #3 and #4. It won't be an average of polls and computer ratings, it'll just be a selection, so shouldn't we as fans know more about the criteria of what will be used?
I think it's relevant to this thread because if there is no new game this summer, won't people request updates to NCAA 14 with the 4 team playoff?
Here's where I think that it's not just a coincidence. I don't think they'd be able to release a game with a Dynasty mode. If there was an NCAA 15, likely they'd just program the game to make a "random" decision as to which teams get into the semi-finals without giving any information or criteria as to how those teams was chosen. It's much different in college basketball where you have half the field getting automatic bids. In the 4 team college football playoffs, there's no auto bids like in march madness. I think the role of conference championship weekend needs to be evaluated.
Obviously it will be assumed that the winner of the SEC championship game will be one of the teams in the play-off, but everything else is kind of an unknown. Who would have made a 4 team playoff this year? Auburn, Florida State, and who would be the 3rd and 4th? How would the committee determine who is more deserving for semi-final spots after that? In the BCS, after #1 and #2, it didn't really matter, as the bowls selected who they wanted in an order. But now this committee will have to evaluate more than just the Top 2, but #3 and #4. It won't be an average of polls and computer ratings, it'll just be a selection, so shouldn't we as fans know more about the criteria of what will be used?
I think it's relevant to this thread because if there is no new game this summer, won't people request updates to NCAA 14 with the 4 team playoff?
They will, but that's naive since there's nobody working on the title.
Strip away all the current branding for BCS, call it power rankings, top 4 are your playoff, done.
Put a little more effort into prettying it up or something, but that's where they'd start. No coincidence, no conspiracy, you're massively over thinking this. There's no game this year due to ROI and liability, probably not in that order.
Strip away all the current branding for BCS, call it power rankings, top 4 are your playoff, done.
Put a little more effort into prettying it up or something, but that's where they'd start. No coincidence, no conspiracy, you're massively over thinking this. There's no game this year due to ROI and liability, probably not in that order.
# 491
simgamer0005 @ 01/25/14 09:58 PM
The BCS was a formula, 1/3 harris poll, 1/3 coaches poll, 1/3 average computer rating. That calculation isn't what will determine the semi-finalists in the upcoming season of college football. You're saying all they would do is strip away the branding and call it a power ranking, but power rankings generally consist of an agreed upon average of statistics from games in a season, which is very different than the Top 4 BCS standings. Imagine if "power rankings" determined who made the playoffs in the NFL. Imagine how controversial that would be. Playoffs in the NFL are by winning your division, records and tie-breakers. (not by committee)
The larger question of criteria used by the committee can be discussed further in a another thread, but whether or not EA will patch NCAA 14 is something many gamers want to know. With the new college football playoff, I think we have an opportunity to really start looking more closely into evaluating teams. The BCS kinda guided the whole season, and now we don't have that anymore, so I think this offseason should be used to understand how bowl selection will change and how teams will be evaluated moving forward.
The larger question of criteria used by the committee can be discussed further in a another thread, but whether or not EA will patch NCAA 14 is something many gamers want to know. With the new college football playoff, I think we have an opportunity to really start looking more closely into evaluating teams. The BCS kinda guided the whole season, and now we don't have that anymore, so I think this offseason should be used to understand how bowl selection will change and how teams will be evaluated moving forward.
Sim.
Not at home so I can't reply in depth and will do so later but the thing that jumps out to me about your argument is that the game sucked at determining this stuff already despite the fact the BCS has been in place for years.
I doubt the fact that a new system is in place would have prevented them from releasing a game.
Not at home so I can't reply in depth and will do so later but the thing that jumps out to me about your argument is that the game sucked at determining this stuff already despite the fact the BCS has been in place for years.
I doubt the fact that a new system is in place would have prevented them from releasing a game.
# 493
simgamer0005 @ 01/26/14 04:27 PM
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Oh and when you say that the computer ratings in the BCS was objective, in theory they were but you have to realize that they were changed and tweaked again and again, even during the 2014 season, with no explanation on how or why. It was very subjective when you really study it. And it wasn't even a true "average" since the first and last ranking were dropped. I don't agree that the BCS itself was a power ranking, it was a combination of polls and a very shady computer ranking that never really was vetted properly.
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The idea that EA might have bailed on the NCAA series to avoid having to incorporate the playoff is incredibly far-fetched.
There will still be coaches and writers polls. It's probable that there will be a strong correlation between the top 4 of those polls and the temas that get invited to the playoff, so adding it to the game would have presented little problem.
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