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Big Changes in Official MLB 15 The Show Roster Update, Designer Explains the Details

08:45 AM - August 10, 2015 by Steve_OS

The official weekly MLB 15 The Show roster update is available now. The update adds 11 players and includes 160 player movements. It also includes big changes that are typically done between yearly releases, as explained by Nick Livingston, Game Designer for MLB 15 The Show.

Overall Rating is just a made-up number that exists to give a high-level idea of a player's ability at a given position. There are unique formulas for each position that value certain skill sets differently depending on a player's primary position. This is why a position change can cause a pretty substantial shift to a player�s Overall even though their attributes haven't changed at all, like Ben Zobrist from 2B (86) to RF (81) earlier this year. The Overall Rating is not something we look very closely at when we are attempting to accurately represent our players.
Attribute Ratings are what drive the simulation results in our game and set players apart from each other (Hits per 9, Contact vs Left, Fielding, Speed, etc). Unlike the Overall Rating, Attributes are HUGELY important to the way the game plays. They are NOT just a reward for a player performing well recently, they are the fabric of how results are decided when you make a pitch, swing the bat, track and dive for a ball, make a throw, and so on.
Though we have a couple drastically different methods for constructing or reconstructing our players attributes, our foundation is a sabermetrics approach similar to what you might find in the yearly baseball prospectus. We love advanced stats, particularly the stats that are good for analyzing a player�s performance independent of the team or stadium he is working with.

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	Before Today... All of the previous weekly updates were the result of rigorous analyses from a couple of stat-head designers that manually identify players whose expected future production may have changed drastically. The designers then tweak any questionable Attributes by hand. Obviously this can be quite subjective, sometimes leading to some spirited debate within the studio when it comes to our cherished homers. ...It's an algorithmic approach that assesses all players and almost every one of their attributes based on predictive statistics. What's great about the algorithmic approach is that it covers a much, much larger pool of players and does so in great detail, considering only objective statistical data. Situations like positions changes or playing through injuries can be misleading out of context. For these, our stat-heads comb through and straighten them out. What's unfortunate is that the first step in the automated rebuilding of our rosters is to overwrite the very specific manual changes our guys spent significant time on in past months, all of which was carried out while balancing development on the features they are working hard on for MLB '16. After Today... I, for one, hope that this is the first step towards super-comprehensive ultra-frequent league-wide updates, but for now we are still ironing out some things. Until we develop an algorithm that doesn't require any manual tweaking, we would have to repeat work for our stat-heads every time we push an automation, and that's not the most efficient use of their time...

With all of that said, Daddy Leagues have posted the attribute changes for the big roster update, some of the changes include Paul Goldschmidt +1 (98), Bryce Harper +1 (96), Jose Fernandez +3 (95), Max Scherzer -2 (95), Buster Posey +2 (95), Felix Hernandez -1 (95), Andrew McCutchen -2 (94), Giancarlo Stanton -1 (93), Jose Altuve +3 (92), Anthony Rizzo +2 (92), David Price -1 (91), Matt Harvey -2 (91), Jake McGee +6 (91), Kenley Jansen +1 (91), Manny Machado -1 (91), Johnny Cueto -2 (90), Madison Bumgarner -2 (90), Corey Kluber -2 (90), Koji Uehara +7 (90), Carlos Gomez +1 (90), Robinson Cano +1 (90), Joey Votto +1 (90), Chris Archer -1 (90) and much more.

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# 1 Dylonus @ 08/10/15 09:43 AM

I fail to see how McCutchen regressed when his power numbers are on point to match or break his numbers last year. It's still hilarious how Starling Marte isn't 90+ speed. Or how he has only average fielding (that alone is laughable) and ONLY 83 arm strength? Yikes.

# 2 RevisIsland24 @ 08/10/15 10:05 AM

Why did Matt Harvey go down? Dumb.

# 3 AvengedAgainst @ 08/10/15 12:52 PM

Wow, Cardinals got snubbed. Jaime down after 7 INN, 2 HA, 4 BBI, 5 K, W, QS. Carpenter down after monster two weeks in a row. Grichuk still doesn't exist yet he has better numbers than Kris Bryant

# 4 Junior_97 @ 08/10/15 01:50 PM

Gray git snubbed big time. Two complete games in his last 3 starts. Best ERA in the AL. And he goes down?

# 5 evanreyes @ 08/10/15 02:20 PM

Joe Panik and Kolten Wong need, NEED to be higher than 81's. They should both be in the Upper 80's. Same goes for Bogaerts and Crawford. Schwarber needs to go up to at least the high 70's, Tomas should be in the low to mid 80's, Burns should be higher, Boxberger should be higher, Smyly should be higher, and Matt Duffy should be higher. If Carlos Correa is that high, all the other good rookies should be getting buffs too.

Goldschmidt, Posey, Greinke and Harper should be 99's, Donaldson should be a little better too.

# 6 mo2119 @ 08/10/15 05:39 PM

This update is NOT based on recent production using the same rating system The Show has been using for the past few years. It's a COMPLETELY NEW ratings system that heavily utilizes advanced baseball statistics. For example, Zach Greinke has a 1.71 ERA, but on balls that have been put in play (BABIP), batters are hitting .236 this year, which is a really really low compared to his career BABIP of .301. Advanced stats suggest that Greinke should have a ERA of around 2.63 if he wasn't as lucky.

# 7 gman2774 @ 08/10/15 08:14 PM

Curious....are equipment and accessories updated within the weekly roster updates?

# 8 underdog13 @ 08/10/15 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by evanreyes


	Joe Panik and Kolten Wong need, NEED to be higher than 81's. They should both be in the Upper 80's. Same goes for Bogaerts and Crawford. Schwarber needs to go up to at least the high 70's, Tomas should be in the low to mid 80's, Burns should be higher, Boxberger should be higher, Smyly should be higher, and Matt Duffy should be higher. If Carlos Correa is that high, all the other good rookies should be getting buffs too. Goldschmidt, Posey, Greinke and Harper should be 99's, Donaldson should be a little better too.

Lol Kolten Wong higher than 81? What? 81 is generous. Nothing about is stats show that he is deserving of a higher ovr.

And obviously you don't understand how The Show ratings work if you think that 4 more guys should be 99 ovr.

# 9 WaitTilNextYear @ 08/10/15 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylonus


	I fail to see how McCutchen regressed when his power numbers are on point to match or break his numbers last year. It's still hilarious how Starling Marte isn't 90+ speed. Or how he has only average fielding (that alone is laughable) and ONLY 83 arm strength? Yikes.

Pirates fan?

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Originally Posted by RevisIsland24


	Why did Matt Harvey go down? Dumb.

Mets fan?

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Originally Posted by AvengedAgainst


	Wow, Cardinals got snubbed. Jaime down after 7 INN, 2 HA, 4 BBI, 5 K, W, QS. Carpenter down after monster two weeks in a row. Grichuk still doesn't exist yet he has better numbers than Kris Bryant

Cardinals fan?

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Originally Posted by Junior_97


	Gray git snubbed big time. Two complete games in his last 3 starts. Best ERA in the AL. And he goes down?

A's fan?

This is an easy game....

# 10 RevisIsland24 @ 08/10/15 11:15 PM

Of course I'm a Mets fan. The fact that Harvey's been pitching well lately, and they drop him to a 91, that's a bit ridiculous. Also, deGrom is underrated. He's having a better year than Scherzer, who's a 97, and is still under a 90 overall.

# 11 trankins24 @ 08/11/15 12:07 AM

I love the update, it drastically changes the teams rankings when going into franchise mode.

Also, I'm not sure if someone from Daddy Leagues is on here but I would really appreciate it if they can list player "potential" numbers along with their attributes.

# 12 underdog13 @ 08/11/15 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RevisIsland24


	Of course I'm a Mets fan. The fact that Harvey's been pitching well lately, and they drop him to a 91, that's a bit ridiculous.

What's more ridiculous is that you didn't read the article. It Clearly says that they used the same formula they would for a out of the box roster. So no they didn't drop him, the algorithm did. He was overrated before (which the weekly updates before were done by manual changes).

Edit: After Looking at all the comments about players going down, how do you guys just skip over the article and not read it?
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# 13 RevisIsland24 @ 08/11/15 03:20 PM

@underdog13 Who are you, again?

# 14 jb12780 @ 08/11/15 03:23 PM

How is CC still a 79? He shouldn't be higher than 70.

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# 15 jvalverde88 @ 08/11/15 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RevisIsland24


	Of course I'm a Mets fan. The fact that Harvey's been pitching well lately, and they drop him to a 91, that's a bit ridiculous. Also, deGrom is underrated. He's having a better year than Scherzer, who's a 97, and is still under a 90 overall.

No, no he's not

# 16 underdog13 @ 08/12/15 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RevisIsland24


	@underdog13 Who are you, again?

? A person

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