Will Clemens get 300 tonight?

MizzouRah · 06-13-2003, 01:38 PM

Being a Cardinal fan, I have a bad feeling about tonight for Cardinal nation. Although Jason Simontacchi flew his father into NY tonight to watch him pitch for a father's day present (only his father's 3 game watching his son pitch), Roger has like 30 friends and family attending tonights game.

Not that it's a bad thing if Roger gets #300, but my best friend would absolutely crumble. He idolized Roger when he played in Boston and now despizes him in a Yankee uniform.

Just seems like all is falling into place. Not to mention Jason's 6+ era vs a hungry Yankee's team who would love to see Roger do it at home.

Todd

markprior22 · 06-13-2003, 01:53 PM

Hope he shuts down the redbirds and "simo man"

primelord · 06-13-2003, 01:55 PM

I don't know why tonight is any different, they have been hungry for him to get his 300th win the last few times out and he has failed each time. The Yankees aren't playing particualrly well right now so this is a good time for the Cards to face them. Plus otehr than that thrashing they got from Boston a couple of nights ago the Cards have been red hot with the bats. I think Roger is going to have to wait until his next start to get his 300th win.

The original plan was to bump Morris up a day to help ensure Roger didn't get it, but with his shoulder problem they decided to keep him on normal rest.

Cards4ever · 06-13-2003, 02:12 PM

Didn't Simontacchi pitch well his last time out? Let's hope that continues. Last nights game was a mess, good thing they finally got that 3 run lead in the 13th. Why the hell they didn't walk Garciaparra with first open in the 10th, I have no idea.

MizzouRah · 06-13-2003, 02:26 PM

That game last night had many a mood change for me. Happy, pissed, happy, pissed, happy, almost pissed.

That last homer Jimmy E hit to win the game was a BOMB!

I was hoping to see a Morris - Clemens matchup tonight, but maybe the Simo man can do it. Who knows? I just feel this might be the right matchup for Clemens to do it.

Todd

primelord · 06-13-2003, 02:32 PM

Yea last night was a frustrating game. How often are you going to get 7 scoreless innings out of Garrett? It was a shame he didn't get that win. Still ya gotta like that they stuck it out.

MizzouRah · 06-13-2003, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by primelord
Yea last night was a frustrating game. How often are you going to get 7 scoreless innings out of Garrett? It was a shame he didn't get that win. Still ya gotta like that they stuck it out.

True, but I bet Garrett was a little ticked. Why LaRussa didn't save Izzy for the 9th, I have no idea. Well, I know he's just coming back, but what's the difference between the 8th and 9th innings? I would have pitched Eldred in the 8th and Izzy in the 9th, but what do I know? I can't believe he took Kline out and put that damn Yan in either. The guy gives up two runs in two innings and his ERA goes down! HA!

Oh well, we did win the game.

Todd

Alan T · 06-13-2003, 02:47 PM

Its funny to hear Cardinals fans viewpoint of last night's game. I was at the game with my wife, and she left so upset that the Red Sox ended up blowing that game.

All the Red Sox fans are talking about is the face Edmonds even had a chance to hit that 3 run home run. Why let Mendoza a righty pitcher that has been horrible all year walk Pujols who was 0-5 in the game to pitch to Edmonds a lefty that had already homered once in the game.

Sometimes it just makes sense to follow the book

Cards4ever · 06-13-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by MizzouRah
but what's the difference between the 8th and 9th innings?

That is the exact reason why Yan couldn't cut it as a closer, there is a difference.

I think they are trying to get him straight, and get him into a position where he pitches the 8th and Izzy the 9th.

MizzouRah · 06-13-2003, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Cards4ever
That is the exact reason why Yan couldn't cut it as a closer, there is a difference.

I think they are trying to get him straight, and get him into a position where he pitches the 8th and Izzy the 9th.

What I meant is... what difference is it to pitch Izzy in the 8th and not the 9th? Too much pressure? The uncertainty of how he will do? I suspect you'll see Izzy pitching in the 9th from now on.

Our bullpen is whipped, if Simo gets shelled early, we'll be in serious trouble tonight.

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Why let Mendoza a righty pitcher that has been horrible all year walk Pujols who was 0-5 in the game to pitch to Edmonds a lefty that had already homered once in the game.

Good question, although you could say, Albert was 'due' for a hit. He is the NL batting leader, at least I think he still is. I wondered why Fossil - Fassero was kept in so long as well. LaRussa sure got pissed when Kerry threw the ball home instead of the cutoff man!

At least we took two from the best hitting team in the MLB, and that's something I guess.

Todd

Cards4ever · 06-13-2003, 03:13 PM

Hey, I would have loved to have Pujols have a chance against Mendoza! I don't think that is such a bad move. I was watching Bonds against Colon last night in between innings of the Cards game, and Harrelson said, I don't care if you strike him out 3 times in a row, he's going down to first. Last week Baltimore had no choice but to pitch to him and he hit a bases clearing double, so, I would recommend that teams follow that advice when they pitch to Pujols.

korme · 06-13-2003, 03:16 PM

The only day of the year where I root for the Cards.

panerd · 06-13-2003, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Shorty3281
The only day of the year where I root for the Cards.

What about when the playoffs start and Cinci fans need a team to cheer for?

Cards4ever · 06-13-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by panerd
What about when the playoffs start and Cinci fans need a team to cheer for?

Which sport?! Aren't the Bengals on the clock by that time too?

panerd · 06-13-2003, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Cards4ever
Which sport?! Aren't the Bengals on the clock by that time too?

Wait a second though! I hate the Rams and have been a Bengals fan my whole life. I feel like I am allowed to make fun of shorty since I have Cincinnati in my blood and am a Bengals fan. So lets keep this thread to only Reds bashing please.

PilotMan · 06-13-2003, 08:46 PM

He has a good shot now. 6 outs to go and the yanks are up 5-2. Thanks to a Mondesi homer in the 7th. Clements left in the 7th with a 3-2 lead.

Edgar Renteria was the #4000 K.

That would be a helluva night (of accomplishments).

Neuqua · 06-13-2003, 09:04 PM

God I hope this doesn't turn the Yankees season around.

MizzouRah · 06-13-2003, 09:13 PM

What the hell... congrats to Clemens, this ones in the book. Heck, Rivera is in the game now.

He pitched well. I knew it, I knew it.

Todd

PilotMan · 06-13-2003, 09:21 PM

2 big career milestones in one game. I certainly don't think I'll see that again in my lifetime.

Happy29 · 06-14-2003, 12:02 AM

300 victories in baseball for Roger Clemens, and tonight I got my first online racing win. Night of pretty good things !

tucker342 · 06-14-2003, 05:26 PM

It's about time that he got it...

06-13-2003, 02:32 PM	#6
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	Yea last night was a frustrating game. How often are you going to get 7 scoreless innings out of Garrett? It was a shame he didn't get that win. Still ya gotta like that they stuck it out. __________________ .

06-13-2003, 02:47 PM	#8
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Its funny to hear Cardinals fans viewpoint of last night's game. I was at the game with my wife, and she left so upset that the Red Sox ended up blowing that game. All the Red Sox fans are talking about is the face Edmonds even had a chance to hit that 3 run home run. Why let Mendoza a righty pitcher that has been horrible all year walk Pujols who was 0-5 in the game to pitch to Edmonds a lefty that had already homered once in the game. Sometimes it just makes sense to follow the book __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

06-13-2003, 03:13 PM	#11
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Hey, I would have loved to have Pujols have a chance against Mendoza! I don't think that is such a bad move. I was watching Bonds against Colon last night in between innings of the Cards game, and Harrelson said, I don't care if you strike him out 3 times in a row, he's going down to first. Last week Baltimore had no choice but to pitch to him and he hit a bases clearing double, so, I would recommend that teams follow that advice when they pitch to Pujols. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

06-13-2003, 08:46 PM	#16
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	He has a good shot now. 6 outs to go and the yanks are up 5-2. Thanks to a Mondesi homer in the 7th. Clements left in the 7th with a 3-2 lead. Edgar Renteria was the #4000 K. That would be a helluva night (of accomplishments). __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

06-13-2003, 09:04 PM	#17
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	God I hope this doesn't turn the Yankees season around. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

06-13-2003, 01:53 PM	#2
markprior22 High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, il	Hope he shuts down the redbirds and "simo man"

06-13-2003, 01:55 PM	#3
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	I don't know why tonight is any different, they have been hungry for him to get his 300th win the last few times out and he has failed each time. The Yankees aren't playing particualrly well right now so this is a good time for the Cards to face them. Plus otehr than that thrashing they got from Boston a couple of nights ago the Cards have been red hot with the bats. I think Roger is going to have to wait until his next start to get his 300th win. The original plan was to bump Morris up a day to help ensure Roger didn't get it, but with his shoulder problem they decided to keep him on normal rest. __________________ .

06-13-2003, 02:12 PM	#4
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Didn't Simontacchi pitch well his last time out? Let's hope that continues. Last nights game was a mess, good thing they finally got that 3 run lead in the 13th. Why the hell they didn't walk Garciaparra with first open in the 10th, I have no idea. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

06-13-2003, 02:26 PM	#5
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	That game last night had many a mood change for me. Happy, pissed, happy, pissed, happy, almost pissed. That last homer Jimmy E hit to win the game was a BOMB! I was hoping to see a Morris - Clemens matchup tonight, but maybe the Simo man can do it. Who knows? I just feel this might be the right matchup for Clemens to do it. Todd

06-13-2003, 03:16 PM	#12
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	The only day of the year where I root for the Cards.

06-13-2003, 09:13 PM	#18
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	What the hell... congrats to Clemens, this ones in the book. Heck, Rivera is in the game now. He pitched well. I knew it, I knew it. Todd

06-13-2003, 09:21 PM	#19
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	2 big career milestones in one game. I certainly don't think I'll see that again in my lifetime. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

06-14-2003, 12:02 AM	#20
Happy29 In The Penalty Box Join Date: May 2003 Location: To reveal my location, you must decipher a series of traps, each more deadly than the last.	300 victories in baseball for Roger Clemens, and tonight I got my first online racing win. Night of pretty good things !

06-14-2003, 05:26 PM	#21
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	It's about time that he got it...

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