Avatar Plea

korme · 06-24-2003, 10:07 PM

Alright. I know I'm playing with a knife that's already been dipped in the mustard (i'm trying out self-proclaimed analogies), I think it's time. It will spice up the board (FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT.) For those who wish not to, you turn them off. Grr...

They're so interesting, it shows alot about a user. I recognize people at OOTP simply because of their avatars.

Skyfella, Ryno, it's time to get down with avies.

Maple Leafs · 06-24-2003, 10:29 PM

You do realize about half of us will use your photo from the "What do you look like" thread, right?

korme · 06-24-2003, 10:33 PM

good!

tucker342 · 06-24-2003, 10:40 PM

I agree! It's time for us to be able to use avatars

Daimyo · 06-24-2003, 11:07 PM

I never understood the reasoning for not having avatars... turn them off by default so unregistered people/visitors won't see them and those of us who want to use them/see them can do so at our option.

Fidatelo · 06-24-2003, 11:11 PM

I 5th the desire for avatars. I certainly will never get easily recognised for my name or post-quality, at least give me a chance at a visual aide!

JeeberD · 06-24-2003, 11:15 PM

Can we use naked chicks for our avatars?

korme · 06-24-2003, 11:41 PM

things like that make skydog a nay-sayer

but of course people can be on av-watch for the profane. highly doubftful that that would happen, though.

Airhog · 06-24-2003, 11:54 PM

I would volunteer to be the Offical Avatar Nazi

Marmel · 06-25-2003, 09:03 AM

sachmo71 · 06-25-2003, 09:09 AM

This will die a horrible, death. Or it will just be ignored.

albionmoonlight · 06-25-2003, 09:36 AM

I don't really care about the issue, but since people are looking for objections to Avatars--here is mine.

Avatars make the board more inwardly focused. People spend a lot of time and energy looking for the perfect avatar. And spend time commenting on each others avatars. And change avatars to fit current situations and/or make comments about other users. (How many avatars with a variation of "cocky & funny" would have been on this board a few months ago)? I think the board is less interesting when it engages in such self-reflective activities.

But, as I said, I don't really care about the issue. I just wanted to throw out that "you can choose to turn them off" does not make all of the potential problems with avatars go away.

Radii · 06-25-2003, 09:43 AM

"I know I'm playing with a knife that's already been dipped in the mustard (i'm trying out self-proclaimed analogies)"

I think you may need to work some more on your analogies.

Anrhydeddu · 06-25-2003, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by albionmoonlight
I don't really care about the issue, but since people are looking for objections to Avatars--here is mine.

Avatars make the board more inwardly focused. People spend a lot of time and energy looking for the perfect avatar. And spend time commenting on each others avatars. And change avatars to fit current situations and/or make comments about other users. (How many avatars with a variation of "cocky & funny" would have been on this board a few months ago)? I think the board is less interesting when it engages in such self-reflective activities.

But, as I said, I don't really care about the issue. I just wanted to throw out that "you can choose to turn them off" does not make all of the potential problems with avatars go away.

Just like the QotM. A good percentage of the folks do not want to see any of them and guests should not see them by default. Because they are still there, too much time and energy had been spent on this 'inwardly focused' nonsense. Avatars will just be more of that same set of problems, imo. I vote not to cheapen this board with silly avatars and not to give the moderators (and their designees) more headaches.

scooper · 06-25-2003, 10:18 AM

People already care way to much about post count and titles. The strength of this board has always been its discussion. It parallels our love for text based games that rely on content and gameplay rather than graphics.

I honestly would not care if we had avatars, and I might have one if we do, but I don't see it as a need.

Butter · 06-25-2003, 10:34 AM

I fail to see why guests don't need to see avatars. It's just another way to distinguish yourself as an individual. Idiots would likely have idiotic avatars. It's like a signature, only more visual.

I can see the moderator's headache argument, but that's really the only valid one I can think of.

scooper · 06-25-2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Butter_of_69

I can see the moderator's headache argument, but that's really the only valid one I can think of.

Awww come on. What about my comparison to text-based sims? I'm proud of that one.

Butter · 06-25-2003, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scooper
Awww come on. What about my comparison to text-based sims? I'm proud of that one.

Most text sims have SOME graphics. Even if it is just that ever-present football-stadium-on-a-desk of TCY.

cuervo72 · 06-25-2003, 11:10 AM

Is it possible to only allow avatars that have been previously approved? We could have some sort of avatar review board, where the proposed avatar is presented at the top of a thread, and there is a yea/nay poll for approval. A bit of censoring might occur, but certainly less than not having avatars at all.

If I recall correctly, there may also be a way to limit avatars to those who have a certain number of posts.

korme · 06-25-2003, 11:13 AM

certain posts would be good (not too high, like 10 posts), avoid all the troublemakers just signing up to show a profane image.

scooper · 06-25-2003, 11:15 AM

I suggest 10,000 posts.

cuervo72 · 06-25-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scooper
I suggest 10,000 posts.

Hey, we'll have them just in time for QuikSand.

TLK · 06-25-2003, 11:27 AM

What about a trial period? Say, like a weekend and we can see if we can behave ourselves.

TLK

Cards4ever · 06-25-2003, 11:34 AM

You know, I'm not sure that I like the idea of total avatar madness, but, I think we can compromise so it's not a headache to the mods.

How about Avatars of Professional and college team logos and mascots only? That would eliminate the people that want to put up pics that might cause issues.

korme · 06-27-2003, 01:56 PM

WussGawd · 06-27-2003, 02:06 PM

I have no objection to avatars per se, as long as Draft Dodger doesn't use that butt-ugly pic of Christina Aguilera he uses on the .400 boards.

Draft Dodger · 06-27-2003, 02:13 PM

dude, it's freaking SHAKIRA

WussGawd · 06-27-2003, 02:14 PM

Relax, I'm just yanking your chain anyway.

Re. Shakira, I knew that...don't know why I spaced on the name.

Draft Dodger · 06-27-2003, 02:21 PM

oops - forgot my smiley.
actually, I don't use them because I'm a macho tough guy

VPI97 · 06-27-2003, 03:10 PM

I've always liked boards where you cannot set your own avatar...other people on the board set it for you.

scooper · 06-27-2003, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VPI97
I've always liked boards where you cannot set your own avatar...other people on the board set it for you.

Oh, now that would be great. I'd actually go for that. Of course, imagine the aliases popping up to get themselves the avatar they want.

korme · 06-27-2003, 04:10 PM

the way that usually works is it just corelates with your post count/title

daedalus · 06-27-2003, 04:44 PM

And given the amount of posts you uncovered from the idiotic threadkill thread, you think *that* is a good idea?

korme · 06-27-2003, 04:47 PM

shutup you

korme · 06-27-2003, 04:48 PM

Actually, I don't like that idea of forum post assigned avies. Just let us pick.

cuervo72 · 06-27-2003, 10:17 PM

Hmm, this is getting me thinking......a game where we make up avatars, and try to guess from the image which member we're trying to represent.....

cuervo72 · 06-27-2003, 10:20 PM

Dola - such as:

cuervo72 · 06-27-2003, 10:23 PM

Double dola -

THIS may be even better:

TLK · 06-27-2003, 10:25 PM

ummmm..... Skydog

cuervo72 · 06-27-2003, 10:34 PM

Just an easy example (the "Dog is my co-pilot" works on so many levels....and it's CD art)

panerd · 06-28-2003, 12:34 AM

I can't believe this discussion has 40 fucking responses.

To the people that want avatars: What is your problem? Why do you have to post an annoying picture at the end of every one of your posts? Aren't the stupid quotes and plugs for shitty sports teams enough?

To the people who don't want them: You are really that offended by them to take the time out of your day to argue against them? Scrolling down an extra 5 lines is going to be so casistrophic that it will destroy the board? You really think that some regular user is going to use a huge picture of female genatalia? Couldn't they do this already if they wanted to?

Daimyo · 06-28-2003, 12:55 AM

The pictures don't go at the bottom of the posts... they go over to the side under your name in the area that is usually empty space for all but the smallest posts. Of course, since the people who don't want to mess with them can easily turn them off (and I'd suggest they be off by default to even save them that small amount of work), I don't even see how that is a big deal.

korme · 06-28-2003, 12:30 PM

cuervo72 · 06-30-2003, 07:10 AM

Bump - I'll save Shorty the work this time

cthomer5000 · 06-30-2003, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shorty3281
pmuB

if you need to keep bumping this, doesn't that mean that no one really cares about this?

korme · 06-30-2003, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cthomer5000
if you need to keep bumping this, doesn't that mean that no one really cares about this?

yes, no one must care. This is not like I posted the thread, no one responded, and then bumped it, ass. I'm just bumping for SkyDog/Ryan S to see.

cthomer5000 · 06-30-2003, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shorty3281
yes, no one must care. This is not like I posted the thread, no one responded, and then bumped it, ass. I'm just bumping for SkyDog/Ryan S to see.

you're aware of the private message system, right?

Ben E Lou · 06-30-2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cthomer5000
you're aware of the private message system, right?

And if not, he should be aware of this thread. And if not, then he should DEFINITELY be aware of this thread, since he posted in it twice himself. In the latter thread I stated my reason. It hasn't changed.

Anrhydeddu · 06-30-2003, 12:48 PM

...and the odds of someone continuing to rehash the same argument on avatars will be....?

cuervo72 · 06-30-2003, 01:49 PM

Ok, that settles that. I guess we can lobby SkyDog on our next issue then, the permitting of tasteful female nudity on the board! Definitely not faggoty ™ and not....oh, nevermind.

06-24-2003, 11:11 PM	#6
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I 5th the desire for avatars. I certainly will never get easily recognised for my name or post-quality, at least give me a chance at a visual aide! __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-24-2003, 11:15 PM	#7
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Can we use naked chicks for our avatars? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

06-24-2003, 11:54 PM	#9
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	I would volunteer to be the Offical Avatar Nazi __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

06-25-2003, 09:03 AM	#10
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	bump __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

06-25-2003, 10:34 AM	#16
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I fail to see why guests don't need to see avatars. It's just another way to distinguish yourself as an individual. Idiots would likely have idiotic avatars. It's like a signature, only more visual. I can see the moderator's headache argument, but that's really the only valid one I can think of. __________________ My listening habits

06-24-2003, 10:29 PM	#2
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	You do realize about half of us will use your photo from the "What do you look like" thread, right?

06-24-2003, 10:33 PM	#3
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	good!

06-24-2003, 10:40 PM	#4
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	I agree! It's time for us to be able to use avatars

06-24-2003, 11:07 PM	#5
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	I never understood the reasoning for not having avatars... turn them off by default so unregistered people/visitors won't see them and those of us who want to use them/see them can do so at our option.

06-24-2003, 11:41 PM	#8
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	things like that make skydog a nay-sayer but of course people can be on av-watch for the profane. highly doubftful that that would happen, though.

06-25-2003, 09:09 AM	#11
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	This will die a horrible, death. Or it will just be ignored.

06-25-2003, 09:36 AM	#12
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I don't really care about the issue, but since people are looking for objections to Avatars--here is mine. Avatars make the board more inwardly focused. People spend a lot of time and energy looking for the perfect avatar. And spend time commenting on each others avatars. And change avatars to fit current situations and/or make comments about other users. (How many avatars with a variation of "cocky & funny" would have been on this board a few months ago)? I think the board is less interesting when it engages in such self-reflective activities. But, as I said, I don't really care about the issue. I just wanted to throw out that "you can choose to turn them off" does not make all of the potential problems with avatars go away.

06-25-2003, 09:43 AM	#13
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	"I know I'm playing with a knife that's already been dipped in the mustard (i'm trying out self-proclaimed analogies)" I think you may need to work some more on your analogies.

06-25-2003, 10:18 AM	#15
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	People already care way to much about post count and titles. The strength of this board has always been its discussion. It parallels our love for text based games that rely on content and gameplay rather than graphics. I honestly would not care if we had avatars, and I might have one if we do, but I don't see it as a need.

06-25-2003, 11:10 AM	#19
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Is it possible to only allow avatars that have been previously approved? We could have some sort of avatar review board, where the proposed avatar is presented at the top of a thread, and there is a yea/nay poll for approval. A bit of censoring might occur, but certainly less than not having avatars at all. If I recall correctly, there may also be a way to limit avatars to those who have a certain number of posts. __________________ null

06-25-2003, 11:13 AM	#20
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	certain posts would be good (not too high, like 10 posts), avoid all the troublemakers just signing up to show a profane image.

06-25-2003, 11:15 AM	#21
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	I suggest 10,000 posts.

06-25-2003, 11:27 AM	#23
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	What about a trial period? Say, like a weekend and we can see if we can behave ourselves. TLK

06-25-2003, 11:34 AM	#24
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	You know, I'm not sure that I like the idea of total avatar madness, but, I think we can compromise so it's not a headache to the mods. How about Avatars of Professional and college team logos and mascots only? That would eliminate the people that want to put up pics that might cause issues. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

06-27-2003, 01:56 PM	#25
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	bump

06-27-2003, 02:06 PM	#26
WussGawd College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Avondale, AZ, USA, Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy	I have no objection to avatars per se, as long as Draft Dodger doesn't use that butt-ugly pic of Christina Aguilera he uses on the .400 boards. __________________ "I guess I'll fade into Bolivian." -Mike Tyson, after being knocked out by Lennox Lewis. Proud Dumba Elect of the "Biggest Dumba of FOFC Award" Author of the 2004 Golden Scribe Gold Trophy for Best Basketball Dynasty, It Rhymes With Puke.

06-27-2003, 02:13 PM	#27
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	dude, it's freaking SHAKIRA __________________ Mile High Hockey

06-27-2003, 02:14 PM	#28
WussGawd College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Avondale, AZ, USA, Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy	Relax, I'm just yanking your chain anyway. Re. Shakira, I knew that...don't know why I spaced on the name. __________________ "I guess I'll fade into Bolivian." -Mike Tyson, after being knocked out by Lennox Lewis. Proud Dumba Elect of the "Biggest Dumba of FOFC Award" Author of the 2004 Golden Scribe Gold Trophy for Best Basketball Dynasty, It Rhymes With Puke. Last edited by WussGawd : 06-27-2003 at 02:15 PM.

06-27-2003, 02:21 PM	#29
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	oops - forgot my smiley. actually, I don't use them because I'm a macho tough guy __________________ Mile High Hockey

06-27-2003, 03:10 PM	#30
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	I've always liked boards where you cannot set your own avatar...other people on the board set it for you. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

06-27-2003, 04:10 PM	#32
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	the way that usually works is it just corelates with your post count/title

06-27-2003, 04:44 PM	#33
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	And given the amount of posts you uncovered from the idiotic threadkill thread, you think that is a good idea?

06-27-2003, 04:47 PM	#34
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	shutup you

06-27-2003, 04:48 PM	#35
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Actually, I don't like that idea of forum post assigned avies. Just let us pick.

06-27-2003, 10:17 PM	#36
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Hmm, this is getting me thinking......a game where we make up avatars, and try to guess from the image which member we're trying to represent..... __________________ null

06-27-2003, 10:20 PM	#37
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Dola - such as: __________________ null

06-27-2003, 10:23 PM	#38
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Double dola - THIS may be even better: __________________ null

06-27-2003, 10:25 PM	#39
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	ummmm..... Skydog

06-27-2003, 10:34 PM	#40
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Just an easy example (the "Dog is my co-pilot" works on so many levels....and it's CD art) __________________ null

06-28-2003, 12:34 AM	#41
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	I can't believe this discussion has 40 fucking responses. To the people that want avatars: What is your problem? Why do you have to post an annoying picture at the end of every one of your posts? Aren't the stupid quotes and plugs for shitty sports teams enough? To the people who don't want them: You are really that offended by them to take the time out of your day to argue against them? Scrolling down an extra 5 lines is going to be so casistrophic that it will destroy the board? You really think that some regular user is going to use a huge picture of female genatalia? Couldn't they do this already if they wanted to?