Does this guy make good future coach?!?

Qwikshot · 07-15-2003, 06:57 PM

Claudio Dolch (13002740)
30 years, passable form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has inadequate experience and weak leadership abilities.

Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: Schweiz
Assessed value: 17 000 US$
Wage: 580 US$/week
Owner: White Zombies
Warnings: 0

Stamina: poor Goaltending: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

I'm all perplexed by these new rules...but I just bought this guy cheap, is he good?!?
He could replace my current coach in a few seasons (I know I have to wait a full season before transfer).

terpkristin · 07-15-2003, 07:08 PM

I'll be the first to admit that the new coaching rules and regs also confuse me. As I see it, since this guy already has inadequate experience, if you played him a bit to get his experience up to solid or ::gasp:: excellent (I haven't the foggiest how long this would take, mind you...), I imagine he'd be a decent coach. One thing to note is that he has weak leadership and is dishonest, so hopefully he wouldn't also be a team leader...

~terpk

Qwikshot · 07-15-2003, 07:13 PM

Thanks...I'm also looking for bargains to sell...I figure there may be a modest profit...grab them cheap, and sell them cheaper than the market price...but it does blow my mind.

Franklinnoble · 07-15-2003, 07:19 PM

Depending on what your other wingers look like, you should play him a bit, see if his experience "pops" and then see about making a coach of him.

As the system is brand new and all, everyone here is pretty much talking out of their ass when it comes to advice, of course.

Hopefully, the first of us here at FOFC who takes the plunge and tries for a new coach under this system will report back with their results.

Jets80 · 07-15-2003, 08:19 PM

What the hell is the new coaching thing anyway ??

Jets80 · 07-15-2003, 08:21 PM

dola..

Nevermind....I found the new coaching thread. I'll go read it

daedalus · 07-15-2003, 09:01 PM

Hrm. Depends . . .

1) His Experience: If/when he pops to passable, he'll be able to become a passable coach. That's a GoodThing[tm]. Definitely the cheaper way to get yourself a passable coach nowadays.

2) His Leadership: As the scheme is to go, leadership decays to show the coach "aging". His weak means that after 1-2 seasons, he'll drop to poor (and on the way to wretched in another 1-2). I've haven't seen too much discussion on how MUCH a coach's leadership effect the match but that's what it's suppose to effect. If it has serious effect, having a weak (and consequently poor) may be a BadThing[tm]. Also, after his leadership reaches wretched, the aging effect decays coaching skill instead so your coach has a shelf-life of about 3-4 seasons.

Back to the point ('bout time) . . . If you intend to use him as a temporary stopgap passable coach (he wouldn't be able to do solid unless he plays frequently and pops again, anyhow) for about 3-4 seasons while saving up for another (or a solid) and improving your team, he may be worth it. That's if you don't think coaching leadership will effect your teamplay very much or don't care.

-Panther · 07-16-2003, 12:15 AM

Player turned coach:

The level of coach skill is limited to the players experience.

Player A: poor or lower exp.
- can't become coach

Player B: weak exp.
- weak coach

Player C: inad exp.
- weak coach
- inad coach

Player D: pass exp.
- weak coach
- inad coach
- pass coach

Player E: solid exp.
- weak coach
- inad coach
- pass coach
- solid coach

Player D: excellent or higher exp.
- weak coach
- inad coach
- pass coach
- solid coach
- excellent coach

the player turned coach will keep his current leadership level.
and a quote from the conf. to keep in mind:

Code:

By: GM-Apoc   
To: DarqFlare  433546.91 as reply to 433546.77 
7/15/2003 at 21:42  

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Also, a couple questions:

1) Will a coach's wage still be $500 per week, even if they are a converted player?

2) If a player is converted to a coach, does he retain his skills? Homer McHugh, for example... If I converted a star player, would he become unplayable?

3) Does this all mean the experience jumps are not random?
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1. Converted players keep their player wages.

2. Converted players keep their skills and can play. Then can also train themselves.

3. As far as I knew they were never random but some people insisted they were.

4. Indy, Leadership for coaches has always mattered nothing has changed in that regard.

so if you've got this player:

Code:

Sus Pect
34, pass form, healthy
wages: $2,500/week

popular, blah, blah
solid exp, inad leadership

St: excellent   Keeper: wretched
PM: formidable   Passing: passable
Winger: poor    Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched    Set Pieces: Solid

he can be this coach

Code:

Sus Pect
34, pass form, healthy

wages: $2,500/week

Solid coach off/def/neutral

popular, blah, blah
solid exp, inad leadership

St: excellent   Keeper: wretched
PM: formidable   Passing: passable
Winger: poor    Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched    Set Pieces: Solid

and you'll still be paying him $2,500 a week as a coach BUT,
he can play and train himself to boot...

TargetPractice6 · 07-16-2003, 12:59 AM

$2,500/week is a pretty good value for that player

damnMikeBrown · 07-16-2003, 02:01 AM

Mattias Möllerhall (771126)
32 years, inadequate form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is tranquil and righteous.
Has excellent experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Speciality: Head

Nationality: Sverige
Assessed value: 43 000 US$
Wage: 1 476 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Zaglebie L
Warnings: 0

Stamina: excellent Goaltending: wretched
Playmaking: solid Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: inadequate

The bugger just sold for $233k

I ran out of $$ to bid for him. Ended up getting a crummy player with passable experience. Perhaps he'll pop to solid in the year I play him in friendlies.

07-15-2003, 07:08 PM	#2
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	I'll be the first to admit that the new coaching rules and regs also confuse me. As I see it, since this guy already has inadequate experience, if you played him a bit to get his experience up to solid or ::gasp:: excellent (I haven't the foggiest how long this would take, mind you...), I imagine he'd be a decent coach. One thing to note is that he has weak leadership and is dishonest, so hopefully he wouldn't also be a team leader... ~terpk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

07-15-2003, 07:13 PM	#3
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Thanks...I'm also looking for bargains to sell...I figure there may be a modest profit...grab them cheap, and sell them cheaper than the market price...but it does blow my mind. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

07-15-2003, 07:19 PM	#4
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Depending on what your other wingers look like, you should play him a bit, see if his experience "pops" and then see about making a coach of him. As the system is brand new and all, everyone here is pretty much talking out of their ass when it comes to advice, of course. Hopefully, the first of us here at FOFC who takes the plunge and tries for a new coach under this system will report back with their results.

07-15-2003, 08:19 PM	#5
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	What the hell is the new coaching thing anyway ??

07-15-2003, 08:21 PM	#6
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	dola.. Nevermind....I found the new coaching thread. I'll go read it

07-15-2003, 09:01 PM	#7
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	Hrm. Depends . . . 1) His Experience: If/when he pops to passable, he'll be able to become a passable coach. That's a GoodThing[tm]. Definitely the cheaper way to get yourself a passable coach nowadays. 2) His Leadership: As the scheme is to go, leadership decays to show the coach "aging". His weak means that after 1-2 seasons, he'll drop to poor (and on the way to wretched in another 1-2). I've haven't seen too much discussion on how MUCH a coach's leadership effect the match but that's what it's suppose to effect. If it has serious effect, having a weak (and consequently poor) may be a BadThing[tm]. Also, after his leadership reaches wretched, the aging effect decays coaching skill instead so your coach has a shelf-life of about 3-4 seasons. Back to the point ('bout time) . . . If you intend to use him as a temporary stopgap passable coach (he wouldn't be able to do solid unless he plays frequently and pops again, anyhow) for about 3-4 seasons while saving up for another (or a solid) and improving your team, he may be worth it. That's if you don't think coaching leadership will effect your teamplay very much or don't care.

07-16-2003, 12:59 AM	#9
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	$2,500/week is a pretty good value for that player

07-16-2003, 02:01 AM	#10
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Mattias Möllerhall (771126) 32 years, inadequate form, healthy A pleasant guy who is tranquil and righteous. Has excellent experience and inadequate leadership abilities. Speciality: Head Nationality: Sverige Assessed value: 43 000 US$ Wage: 1 476 US$/week including 20% Bonus Owner: Zaglebie L Warnings: 0 Stamina: excellent Goaltending: wretched Playmaking: solid Passing: weak Winger: weak Defending: passable Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: inadequate The bugger just sold for $233k I ran out of $$ to bid for him. Ended up getting a crummy player with passable experience. Perhaps he'll pop to solid in the year I play him in friendlies.

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