National Coach: FOF Backing

Blade6119 · 07-17-2003, 02:06 AM

Well....its seems that the new nominees are already announcing themselves, and it seems to me the smart decision would be to back TargetParactice6. He seems like a great coach to me, nice guy, and to already have enough backers where if we help we could push him over the top. Any thoughts on what FOF should do. I think we proved by putting Dataking at #2 for U-20 that we are a formidible group of voters. How should we play out this election?

Vince · 07-17-2003, 02:49 AM

I'm down to vote TP6...he knows what he's doing.

BillyNYC · 07-17-2003, 02:55 AM

(This is all assuming the TP6 becomes the "FOFC-endorsed candidate)

From an unbiased view, what FOFC should do is...not much.

One of the "problems" DK had the last election was that a bunch of people "no one had heard of" starting singing his praises about how he helped them and such. And I think this led to some backlash, with the mindset of "who's this and who are all of his lackeys? I've never seen them before".

DK got the FOFC bloc vote. But obviously he needed a bit of other votes, and that was really hard to come by (due to lack of "name value", experience, series, and so forth). I honestly don't remember who I voted for (I *think* was TP6; I KNOW it WASN'T Idigum...think a GM has enough to do...), but DK was certainly a possibility. Despite my bias/preference for "nat. coach is an honor that should be bestowed on a more experienced manager", I was impressed by DK's demeanor and knowledge. Unfortunately, he couldn't get over the hump.

The problems that DK had, TP6 shouldn't have. He's played longer, is in a high series, is known in the conferences and so forth. He'll get a decent size of the "regular vote", along with the FOFC bloc. But if there's dozens of posts on the HT conference from "random IV and V owners that no one's heard of", there could be backlash. And I'm not saying that in a holier than thou mindset.

So the best thing that can be done is to make sure that everyone votes. And if it's going to be a bloc effort, make sure everyone's united in it and that "there's a good voter turnout". Obviously, that made a nice difference in the last election (where I was honestly quite surprised DK got so many votes; didn't know there was such a united bloc, as there was here. Recall, this was before I came back to FOFC...)

The only other thing that comes to mind is to try to somehow prevent "a certain loudmouth" from jumping on TP6's bandwagon. There's one or two people in the HT conferences (I think TP6 and maybe some others know who they are) who are...annoying (less so now than in the past). Having them actively supporting/sucking up/praising a candidate led to backlash in the past (on a personal level, I know it annoyed me enough to not vote for a candidate in the past). I guess FOFC can't do anything about this, so this is more a "general election comment" than an FOFC related one.

What else FOFC CAN do is to recruit people to join HT (from FOFC and assorted places), which could lead to additional votes. Otherwise, I don't think any concentrated public effort on the US Confs is really a benefit.

That's just my 2 cents...

TargetPractice6 · 07-17-2003, 03:00 AM

I think you voted for me, atleast that's what you told me.

Yeah, and that "certain louhmouth" has already voice support for slashers. So I have nothing to worry about.

Honestly guys, I would be honored to receive your votes. I really have some good plans for the national team (which I will detail later).

vex · 07-17-2003, 03:01 AM

We worked on the bloc vote for about a month and a half getting things prepared such as going through nominations and such.

vex · 07-17-2003, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
I think you voted for me, atleast that's what you told me.

Yeah, and that "certain louhmouth" has already voice support for slashers. So I have nothing to worry about.

Honestly guys, I would be honored to receive your votes. I really have some good plans for the national team (which I will detail later).

I only have one question:

Will you be able to beat every team but Sverige, and possibly them as well?

TargetPractice6 · 07-17-2003, 03:12 AM

I'm confident I could with the current team against the current opposition (Sweden is a bit iffy though). I say current because I don't know how talented other teams will be by the next world cup. But I'd still say we could beat the vast majority of teams in two seasons.

However, my plans don't include beating every country in a friendly if that's what you mean. One of my plans is to PIC most every friendly to get TS up for the World Cup. Also, I would like to fall just out of the top 8 in the world rankings. Canada and England both had to play qualification matches to get into group play (against lesser teams). Which allowed them to atleast PIC one game and keep TS up. We had to wait three weeks between matches. So, I hope that answers your question.

vex · 07-17-2003, 03:16 AM

Sounds good, I suppose you can have my vote

mckerney · 07-17-2003, 03:46 AM

Sounds like a good enough plan, but no run and shooting?

mckerney · 07-17-2003, 03:49 AM

Dola: Also, I hope there's not a backlash if TP6 is elected and we try and push DK to the U-20 spot and someone goes and creates an anti-FOFC voting bloc against DK to prevent us from running the national scene.

TargetPractice6 · 07-17-2003, 04:00 AM

No run and shoot, sorry. Team USA has a pretty good defense.

illinifan999 · 07-17-2003, 07:08 AM

GO TP6!

Poli · 07-17-2003, 07:15 AM

I'll go for TP6, but I'd still like to see DK or someone else in FOF for U-20. (I'll be back in November, with no more sea time

. )

Bee · 07-17-2003, 07:20 AM

TP6 for national works for me. DK for U-20 sounds good too.

illinifan999 · 07-17-2003, 07:24 AM

Searching around trying to find the active Ukraina teams, I found their division that all 7 of them are in. What does this mean:

FC Metallist Kharkov (AK Team) (268309)

AK Team? Do they run onto the fields with AK's?

Poli · 07-17-2003, 08:16 AM

No, it's the Alaska Team!

Havok · 07-17-2003, 12:22 PM

TP's got my vote

and im also against the Run and shoot. USA has probally the number 2 or 3 defense in the world. It would be kind of a waste not to use it to our advantage.

MacroGuru · 07-17-2003, 12:27 PM

Yeah, I think next season I might try and shoot for the U-20 team. TP is getting my vote.

sterlingice · 07-17-2003, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
No run and shoot, sorry. Team USA has a pretty good defense.

Well, he lost my vote (j/k)

That question on this boards is like abortion in a national election: it polarizes voters and there is no "right" answer for a canidate. Fortunately, unlike national elections, some of us are smart enough to not single-issue vote.

SI

Franklinnoble · 07-17-2003, 06:11 PM

Stupid question... when and how do we vote?

TargetPractice6 · 07-17-2003, 06:14 PM

Voting will be open for a week shortly have the current World Cup ends. To vote you will need to go to the USA page and find the Elections link under where it says who the current national coaches are. From there you can enter a user name you wish to vote for, or select one of the top ten that are listed (if it has been over 1 day since the start of the election0.

Franklinnoble · 07-17-2003, 06:18 PM

Thanks... I'll keep that in mind.

damnMikeBrown · 07-17-2003, 06:44 PM

As long as you promote my guy to the Nats, it's ok by me.

TargetPractice6 · 07-17-2003, 06:47 PM

As long as you give me some shoes next time I drive up to Cincinnati.

Superman=#54 · 07-17-2003, 07:48 PM

Theonly thing your missing TP is a catchy campaign slogan. You still have my vote TP.

NAIWF · 07-17-2003, 07:58 PM

"Vote for TP, or he'll TP your house"? I'm tired and that was the only obvious toilet paper reference I could come up with

TargetPractice6 · 07-17-2003, 08:15 PM

"Vote TP or else" has a catchy ring to it.

damnMikeBrown · 07-17-2003, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
As long as you give me some shoes next time I drive up to Cincinnati.

I'll go 1/2 way. I'll get you some flip-flops.

Aside from not having to worry about being busted by the KY State Police for shoe smuggling when you cross the border, you can also wear 'em in the crick when your family goes bathing.

TargetPractice6 · 07-17-2003, 08:49 PM

I thank ya'll kindly there for them there flip flops. I'll come back now ya hear.

lytic · 07-18-2003, 02:39 PM

I always vote for TP.
I'm planning on running the WC season after, with hopefully a full year of U20 SK experience.

Fonzie · 07-18-2003, 09:51 PM

"Who was there when you had a runny nose but were out of Kleenex(tm)?

TP was there.

Who did you turn to when you needed to trash a friend's house in a playful and not-exactly-damaging-but-still-highly-visible way?

You turned to TP.

Who cleaned your ass the last time you had explosive diarrhea?

TP cleaned your ass, that's who.

So when you vote for Team USA's national coach, please keep in mind all of the generous things TP has done for you.

Thank you."

TargetPractice6 · 07-18-2003, 11:59 PM

*sniff* *sob* That was beautiful man!

Superman=#54 · 07-19-2003, 11:07 AM

Wow that was some great stuff Fonzie. I just got off the floor after reading that stuff.

That should be TP6's speech when he makes the top ten.

LOL!!

TargetPractice6 · 07-19-2003, 11:45 AM

I don't know, the space we get to make our speeches is pretty small. Maybe I could just leave a link

Fonzie · 07-19-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
*sniff* *sob* That was beautiful man!

It was straight from the heart, my friend. I just...I just had to say it.

Desnudo · 07-19-2003, 03:38 PM

Anyone who names their stadium after America's greatest mohawked actor of all time deserves my vote.

lytic · 07-19-2003, 07:54 PM

funny story about that arena name... heh.

TargetPractice6 · 07-19-2003, 07:57 PM

There is?

07-17-2003, 03:12 AM	#7
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	I'm confident I could with the current team against the current opposition (Sweden is a bit iffy though). I say current because I don't know how talented other teams will be by the next world cup. But I'd still say we could beat the vast majority of teams in two seasons. However, my plans don't include beating every country in a friendly if that's what you mean. One of my plans is to PIC most every friendly to get TS up for the World Cup. Also, I would like to fall just out of the top 8 in the world rankings. Canada and England both had to play qualification matches to get into group play (against lesser teams). Which allowed them to atleast PIC one game and keep TS up. We had to wait three weeks between matches. So, I hope that answers your question. Last edited by TargetPractice6 : 07-17-2003 at 03:13 AM.

07-17-2003, 07:08 AM	#12
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	GO TP6! __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-17-2003, 07:15 AM	#13
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'll go for TP6, but I'd still like to see DK or someone else in FOF for U-20. (I'll be back in November, with no more sea time . ) __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-17-2003, 07:24 AM	#15
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Searching around trying to find the active Ukraina teams, I found their division that all 7 of them are in. What does this mean: FC Metallist Kharkov (AK Team) (268309) AK Team? Do they run onto the fields with AK's? __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-17-2003, 08:16 AM	#16
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	No, it's the Alaska Team! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-17-2003, 02:49 AM	#2
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	I'm down to vote TP6...he knows what he's doing. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

07-17-2003, 02:55 AM	#3
BillyNYC High School JV Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Berlin, Germany	(This is all assuming the TP6 becomes the "FOFC-endorsed candidate) From an unbiased view, what FOFC should do is...not much. One of the "problems" DK had the last election was that a bunch of people "no one had heard of" starting singing his praises about how he helped them and such. And I think this led to some backlash, with the mindset of "who's this and who are all of his lackeys? I've never seen them before". DK got the FOFC bloc vote. But obviously he needed a bit of other votes, and that was really hard to come by (due to lack of "name value", experience, series, and so forth). I honestly don't remember who I voted for (I think was TP6; I KNOW it WASN'T Idigum...think a GM has enough to do...), but DK was certainly a possibility. Despite my bias/preference for "nat. coach is an honor that should be bestowed on a more experienced manager", I was impressed by DK's demeanor and knowledge. Unfortunately, he couldn't get over the hump. The problems that DK had, TP6 shouldn't have. He's played longer, is in a high series, is known in the conferences and so forth. He'll get a decent size of the "regular vote", along with the FOFC bloc. But if there's dozens of posts on the HT conference from "random IV and V owners that no one's heard of", there could be backlash. And I'm not saying that in a holier than thou mindset. So the best thing that can be done is to make sure that everyone votes. And if it's going to be a bloc effort, make sure everyone's united in it and that "there's a good voter turnout". Obviously, that made a nice difference in the last election (where I was honestly quite surprised DK got so many votes; didn't know there was such a united bloc, as there was here. Recall, this was before I came back to FOFC...) The only other thing that comes to mind is to try to somehow prevent "a certain loudmouth" from jumping on TP6's bandwagon. There's one or two people in the HT conferences (I think TP6 and maybe some others know who they are) who are...annoying (less so now than in the past). Having them actively supporting/sucking up/praising a candidate led to backlash in the past (on a personal level, I know it annoyed me enough to not vote for a candidate in the past). I guess FOFC can't do anything about this, so this is more a "general election comment" than an FOFC related one. What else FOFC CAN do is to recruit people to join HT (from FOFC and assorted places), which could lead to additional votes. Otherwise, I don't think any concentrated public effort on the US Confs is really a benefit. That's just my 2 cents...

07-17-2003, 03:00 AM	#4
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	I think you voted for me, atleast that's what you told me. Yeah, and that "certain louhmouth" has already voice support for slashers. So I have nothing to worry about. Honestly guys, I would be honored to receive your votes. I really have some good plans for the national team (which I will detail later).

07-17-2003, 03:01 AM	#5
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	We worked on the bloc vote for about a month and a half getting things prepared such as going through nominations and such.

07-17-2003, 03:16 AM	#8
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Sounds good, I suppose you can have my vote

07-17-2003, 03:46 AM	#9
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Sounds like a good enough plan, but no run and shooting?

07-17-2003, 03:49 AM	#10
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Dola: Also, I hope there's not a backlash if TP6 is elected and we try and push DK to the U-20 spot and someone goes and creates an anti-FOFC voting bloc against DK to prevent us from running the national scene.

07-17-2003, 04:00 AM	#11
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	No run and shoot, sorry. Team USA has a pretty good defense.

07-17-2003, 07:20 AM	#14
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	TP6 for national works for me. DK for U-20 sounds good too.

07-17-2003, 12:22 PM	#17
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	TP's got my vote and im also against the Run and shoot. USA has probally the number 2 or 3 defense in the world. It would be kind of a waste not to use it to our advantage. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

07-17-2003, 12:27 PM	#18
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Yeah, I think next season I might try and shoot for the U-20 team. TP is getting my vote. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

07-17-2003, 06:11 PM	#20
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Stupid question... when and how do we vote?

07-17-2003, 06:14 PM	#21
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	Voting will be open for a week shortly have the current World Cup ends. To vote you will need to go to the USA page and find the Elections link under where it says who the current national coaches are. From there you can enter a user name you wish to vote for, or select one of the top ten that are listed (if it has been over 1 day since the start of the election0. Last edited by TargetPractice6 : 07-17-2003 at 06:15 PM.

07-17-2003, 06:18 PM	#22
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Thanks... I'll keep that in mind.

07-17-2003, 06:44 PM	#23
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	As long as you promote my guy to the Nats, it's ok by me.

07-17-2003, 06:47 PM	#24
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	As long as you give me some shoes next time I drive up to Cincinnati.

07-17-2003, 07:48 PM	#25
Superman=#54 High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago, IL	Theonly thing your missing TP is a catchy campaign slogan. You still have my vote TP. __________________ New signature pending....

07-17-2003, 07:58 PM	#26
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	"Vote for TP, or he'll TP your house"? I'm tired and that was the only obvious toilet paper reference I could come up with

07-17-2003, 08:15 PM	#27
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	"Vote TP or else" has a catchy ring to it.

07-17-2003, 08:49 PM	#29
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	I thank ya'll kindly there for them there flip flops. I'll come back now ya hear.

07-18-2003, 02:39 PM	#30
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	I always vote for TP. I'm planning on running the WC season after, with hopefully a full year of U20 SK experience. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

07-18-2003, 09:51 PM	#31
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	"Who was there when you had a runny nose but were out of Kleenex(tm)? TP was there. Who did you turn to when you needed to trash a friend's house in a playful and not-exactly-damaging-but-still-highly-visible way? You turned to TP. Who cleaned your ass the last time you had explosive diarrhea? TP cleaned your ass, that's who. So when you vote for Team USA's national coach, please keep in mind all of the generous things TP has done for you. Thank you."

07-18-2003, 11:59 PM	#32
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	sniff sob That was beautiful man!

07-19-2003, 11:07 AM	#33
Superman=#54 High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago, IL	Wow that was some great stuff Fonzie. I just got off the floor after reading that stuff. That should be TP6's speech when he makes the top ten. LOL!! __________________ New signature pending....

07-19-2003, 11:45 AM	#34
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	I don't know, the space we get to make our speeches is pretty small. Maybe I could just leave a link Last edited by TargetPractice6 : 07-19-2003 at 11:45 AM.

07-19-2003, 03:38 PM	#36
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Anyone who names their stadium after America's greatest mohawked actor of all time deserves my vote.

07-19-2003, 07:54 PM	#37
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	funny story about that arena name... heh. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

07-19-2003, 07:57 PM	#38
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	There is?

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