Huge Four Way Deal in the NBA!

ISiddiqui · 07-22-2003, 05:58 PM

From ESPN.com

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Breaking News
Four-Team Deal: Sprewell to Wolves
A blockbuster four-team NBA trade has been completed today, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher reports. In the deal, the Knicks get Keith Van Horn from Philadelphia, and ship Latrell Sprewell to the Timberwolves. Terrell Brandon goes from the Wolves to the Hawks, while Glen Robinson lands in Philadelphia.

WOW... that's a big deal! But did anyone really improve themselves that much?

korme · 07-22-2003, 06:05 PM

Hawks get a PG, making room for their many SG/SF.

T-Wolves add Spree, he'll probably play 2/3 (Wally will play the other?) and Garnett will become a 4. Hudson will start at PG, with Kandi in the paint. Not bad, not bad.

Knicks get Van Horn, who will play the same position as Spree did, only contribute less.

Robinson in Philly, a second scorer (better than Van Horn was) to compliment Iverson.

Everyone but the Knicks improved IMNSHO.

The Afoci · 07-22-2003, 06:05 PM

The Twolves get a big time scorer for someone who hasn't played in 2 years. That is huge for them!

The Afoci · 07-22-2003, 06:06 PM

dola plus Spree can play some D-which is needed. Hopefully there will be enough shots for wally, KG, Spree and Hudson.

Ryche · 07-22-2003, 07:21 PM

Atlanta wouldn't be getting a PG out of the deal, Brandon is going to retire so it just gives them a lot of salary cap relief, somewhere around 10 million.

Balldog · 07-22-2003, 07:26 PM

I'm gonna have a hard time cheering for the T-wolves now.

VPI97 · 07-22-2003, 08:19 PM

As a Hawks fan, I can say without a doubt that if something happens and Brandon never plays a minute, Atlanta still got the best out of this deal. Getting Robinson out of town is just the thing to turn the franchise around. I wonder how Iverson's going to like "Big Dog" chucking up shot after shot after shot after shot.

oykib · 07-22-2003, 08:22 PM

All right, this is the final nail in Layden's coffin. Why are you picking up Van Horn? He is totallly useless player. If GLenn Robinson is floating around, how do you end up with Van Horn?

Are the Knicks trying to get a better lottery position for next year?

Subby · 07-22-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by oykib
All right, this is the final nail in Layden's coffin.

Are you crazy?

Getting Maciej Lampe in the 2nd round bought Layden a few more years...

The only winner here is Atlanta. They clear mega-cap room and get rid of cancer du-jour Glen Robinson.

Who wins in a ball-hogging backcourt free-for all between Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell and Wallyworld? Not the Wolves.

oykib · 07-22-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Subby
Are you crazy?

Getting Maciej Lampe in the 2nd round bought Layden a few more years...

The only winner here is Atlanta. They clear mega-cap room and get rid of cancer du-jour Glen Robinson.

Who wins in a ball-hogging backcourt free-for all between Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell and Wallyworld? Not the Wolves.

I meant with the fans. Ask BillyNYC or somebody about what most of us New Yorkers think of him as a GM.

Scholes · 07-22-2003, 10:36 PM

You guys have forgotten about Casell, or do you think he won't start?

Neuqua · 07-23-2003, 01:58 AM

I like the deal for the Timberwolves. With Cassell and Wally, the Wolves need someone athletic enough to defend the 2s and 3s in the league and before Spre came to NY he was known for his defense. If he can become a defensive force for the Timberwolves then I think they can do some real damage in the upcoming season (I'm presuming Olowakandi doesn't turn into Ike Austin.)

I love this trade for the Knicks. Mostly because I'm a Bulls fan. I've watch Keith Van Horn for his entire career (I'm a Nets fan on the side) and I can honestly say I've never been so frustrated by a player. He's a wuss. Simple as that. He gets scared when he's around the basket. He's basically a 6'10'' 3 pt shooter with max contract. With the Knicks luck in getting Lampje, I'm glad to see they take two steps back with Keith Van Horn. Especially when it cost them their best player.

mckerney · 07-23-2003, 02:03 AM

Wally doesn't play D, so the Wolves best lineup would be Hudson-Cassell-Sprewell-Garnett-Olowokandi

The Afoci · 07-23-2003, 08:25 AM

I forgot about Cassell, but I actually like having the problem of too many shooters here. This is the first time ever, most of the time we rely on Anthony Peeler or someone like that. Now we have 2 guys who can create their own shots of the dribble, Spree and Cassell, a spot up shooter, Wally, a stud, KG, a rebounder(hopefully) Kandi, and a spark off the bench, Hudson. Now if they can all work together and all understand that KG is the God that runs their universe is another thing, but I enjoy actually having some talent with KG to see what can happen.

oykib · 07-24-2003, 09:16 PM

Here's a New York take on the deal from the Knicks viewpoint:

See Scott Run

vex · 07-25-2003, 01:49 AM

Dallas sure seems to do ok with having "too many shooters".

mckerney · 07-25-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Shorty3281
Hawks get a PG, making room for their many SG/SF.

You do know that Brandon can't play, don't you?

Iceberg · 07-25-2003, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by vexroid
Dallas sure seems to do ok with having "too many shooters".

Dallas actually cant seem to make it out of the western conference. Same goes for Sacramento, another team loaded with shooters. You notice the teams winning championships are the ones with a couple good shooters (Spurs: duncan, parker Lakers: kobe, shaq Bulls: MJ pippin) and a bunch of role player (bowen, ginobli, fox, horry, kerr, rodman). Only one guy can have the ball at once but 5 guys can play D and rebound at the same time. Plus Spre has serious character issues.

vex · 07-25-2003, 02:36 AM

The teams winning championships are the ones with superstars (i.e. Jordan, Shaq, Duncan).

mckerney · 07-25-2003, 02:42 AM

Spree may have personal problems, but on the court he's alwasy been a guy who will go out and win. Without him how far would the Knicks have gotten the year they went from #8 seed to NBA finals ('98 I think)?

alterra · 07-25-2003, 03:52 AM

Bottom line for the knicks is, Spree is a better player than Van Horn. They're a worse team today.

condors · 07-25-2003, 06:27 AM

from a sixers fan van horn may start the game at 6' 10" but gets shorter as the game goes on in the fourth quater he will turn the ball over before he shots 90% of the time

07-22-2003, 06:05 PM	#3
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	The Twolves get a big time scorer for someone who hasn't played in 2 years. That is huge for them! __________________ I had something.

07-22-2003, 06:06 PM	#4
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	dola plus Spree can play some D-which is needed. Hopefully there will be enough shots for wally, KG, Spree and Hudson. __________________ I had something.

07-22-2003, 07:21 PM	#5
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	Atlanta wouldn't be getting a PG out of the deal, Brandon is going to retire so it just gives them a lot of salary cap relief, somewhere around 10 million. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

07-22-2003, 08:19 PM	#7
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	As a Hawks fan, I can say without a doubt that if something happens and Brandon never plays a minute, Atlanta still got the best out of this deal. Getting Robinson out of town is just the thing to turn the franchise around. I wonder how Iverson's going to like "Big Dog" chucking up shot after shot after shot after shot. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

07-23-2003, 01:58 AM	#12
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	I like the deal for the Timberwolves. With Cassell and Wally, the Wolves need someone athletic enough to defend the 2s and 3s in the league and before Spre came to NY he was known for his defense. If he can become a defensive force for the Timberwolves then I think they can do some real damage in the upcoming season (I'm presuming Olowakandi doesn't turn into Ike Austin.) I love this trade for the Knicks. Mostly because I'm a Bulls fan. I've watch Keith Van Horn for his entire career (I'm a Nets fan on the side) and I can honestly say I've never been so frustrated by a player. He's a wuss. Simple as that. He gets scared when he's around the basket. He's basically a 6'10'' 3 pt shooter with max contract. With the Knicks luck in getting Lampje, I'm glad to see they take two steps back with Keith Van Horn. Especially when it cost them their best player. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

07-22-2003, 06:05 PM	#2
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Hawks get a PG, making room for their many SG/SF. T-Wolves add Spree, he'll probably play 2/3 (Wally will play the other?) and Garnett will become a 4. Hudson will start at PG, with Kandi in the paint. Not bad, not bad. Knicks get Van Horn, who will play the same position as Spree did, only contribute less. Robinson in Philly, a second scorer (better than Van Horn was) to compliment Iverson. Everyone but the Knicks improved IMNSHO.

07-22-2003, 07:26 PM	#6
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	I'm gonna have a hard time cheering for the T-wolves now.

07-22-2003, 08:22 PM	#8
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	All right, this is the final nail in Layden's coffin. Why are you picking up Van Horn? He is totallly useless player. If GLenn Robinson is floating around, how do you end up with Van Horn? Are the Knicks trying to get a better lottery position for next year?

07-22-2003, 10:36 PM	#11
Scholes High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Paul, MN	You guys have forgotten about Casell, or do you think he won't start?

07-23-2003, 02:03 AM	#13
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Wally doesn't play D, so the Wolves best lineup would be Hudson-Cassell-Sprewell-Garnett-Olowokandi

07-23-2003, 08:25 AM	#14
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	I forgot about Cassell, but I actually like having the problem of too many shooters here. This is the first time ever, most of the time we rely on Anthony Peeler or someone like that. Now we have 2 guys who can create their own shots of the dribble, Spree and Cassell, a spot up shooter, Wally, a stud, KG, a rebounder(hopefully) Kandi, and a spark off the bench, Hudson. Now if they can all work together and all understand that KG is the God that runs their universe is another thing, but I enjoy actually having some talent with KG to see what can happen. __________________ I had something.

07-24-2003, 09:16 PM	#15
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Here's a New York take on the deal from the Knicks viewpoint: See Scott Run

07-25-2003, 01:49 AM	#16
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Dallas sure seems to do ok with having "too many shooters".

07-25-2003, 02:36 AM	#19
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	The teams winning championships are the ones with superstars (i.e. Jordan, Shaq, Duncan).

07-25-2003, 02:42 AM	#20
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Spree may have personal problems, but on the court he's alwasy been a guy who will go out and win. Without him how far would the Knicks have gotten the year they went from #8 seed to NBA finals ('98 I think)?

07-25-2003, 03:52 AM	#21
alterra Mascot Join Date: Jul 2003	Bottom line for the knicks is, Spree is a better player than Van Horn. They're a worse team today.

07-25-2003, 06:27 AM	#22
condors College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	from a sixers fan van horn may start the game at 6' 10" but gets shorter as the game goes on in the fourth quater he will turn the ball over before he shots 90% of the time Last edited by condors : 07-25-2003 at 06:31 AM.

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