Which is the best 3rd party program to use?

Ramzavail · 07-25-2003, 12:42 PM

Hattrick Organizer
Hattrick Viewer
Hattrick Manager
HattrickPoli
Hattrick Assistant Manager
Criollo Viewer

I see those....know of any more?

Which of these are the best to use?

KevinNU7 · 07-25-2003, 12:42 PM

best for what? These questions are pretty vague.

KevinNU7 · 07-25-2003, 12:43 PM

HAM tends to be the universal one

Ramzavail · 07-25-2003, 12:45 PM

the best to use for whatever functions they provide...

Im not even sure what they are used for and how to use them....

Raven Hawk · 07-25-2003, 12:45 PM

I have registered 2 of those on the list.

Hattrick Manager
Hattrick Assistant Manager (HAM)

I never use Hattrick Manager . . . so in a binary situation, I'd suggest you don't get Hattrick Manager.

HAM is a very good program.

FrogMan · 07-25-2003, 12:47 PM

I use HAM and HattrickPoli, although I don't know why I keep updating HPoli. Maybe in the event that the programmer came up with something amazing...

Oh and I almost forgot, I also use something promoted by somebody we might call The Evil Bill, a tiny program called Microsoft Excel

FM

TargetPractice6 · 07-25-2003, 01:26 PM

HAM and Excel for me as well

Wow... that was a bad rhyme.

MylesKnight · 07-25-2003, 01:39 PM

"It's HAM-mer Time!!"

TargetPractice6 · 07-25-2003, 01:42 PM

Can't touch this!

TonyR · 07-25-2003, 01:45 PM

Seems like newest version of HAM works very very slowly for me. Don't know what to do about it.

Fonzie · 07-25-2003, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by TonyR
Seems like newest version of HAM works very very slowly for me. Don't know what to do about it.

This slowdown might have to do with the Transfer Evaluation updates - try turning off the "update with every HRF download" option, if you haven't already. That might help.

sterlingice · 07-25-2003, 03:35 PM

mmm... HAM (tho, it costs a couple of bucks)

SI

daedalus · 07-25-2003, 05:16 PM

Criollo falls into a different category than the others. It's a game viewer where you're able to view a number of games at the same time and bookmark certain teams to bring up their games later. Old School (or just old) people like TP just use browsers that allows them to set those pages to autoupdate (essentially the same thing). The only benefit is the ability to bookmark certain teams.

The others basically helps you keep track of your team with regards to things like past performance, ratings and value changes and what nots. The most popular of the bunch is HAM. It's able to retrieve information from Hattrick beyond HRF so you do get a bit more information. From Frogger's thread, I s'pose being able to notice when your serie mates have made a big purchase is probably also useful. I also use HattrickPoli. It can retrieve the HRF so you can still get player informations. But unless something drastic has changed recently, you will have to enter game details yourself (basically, cut-and-paste from your browser) if you want to keep track of past performances.

FrogMan · 07-25-2003, 07:24 PM

I agree with daedalus, I almost forgot about Criollo. This is a gametime kind of app. It won't help you manage your team, but will make you enjoy the game time better, unless you do like TP.

The thread daedalus is referring to is this one: how does it smell to you?, where while using something called "series spy" in HAM, I came to see something fishy done by a leaguemate. "series spy" does just what its name implies, it tells you what the other teams in your league are up to in terms of transfers, injuries, coach changes...

FM

terpkristin · 07-25-2003, 07:32 PM

In addition to what's already been said...
I like and use HAM because of it's "automation" that is, you don't have to manually enter things. I used HTPoli and didn't care for it much, my biggest complaint was a lack of documentation and difficulty understanding how to use its features fully.
For my team lineups, I use Hattrick Organizer (HO!) and then play with my settings from there, based on ratings and stuff. I tried MyBestTeam for Hattrick, but I didn't care for how it set my lineup.

I also use Excel files, though I'm not as adept as others here are with them ::cough, cough:: FrogMan ::cough, cough::.

~terpk

FrogMan · 07-25-2003, 07:35 PM

tk, you caught a bad cold there or what?

FM

Nyarlahotep · 07-25-2003, 10:28 PM

HAM all the way for me. HO is decent too.

Ramzavail · 07-26-2003, 02:28 PM

I just installed HAM and tried to get it to d/l my ratings and stuff...

it said Internal error.

any help?

terpkristin · 07-26-2003, 02:41 PM

Usually when that happens to me, HT is either down or runs into a glitch. Did you try again?
Failing that, shut down HAM and restart it and try again.
And failing that, uninstall and then re-install it.

I just checked mine, and it seemed to work for me.

~terpk

Ramzavail · 07-26-2003, 03:25 PM

just uninstalled and tried again...

internal server error again.

07-25-2003, 12:42 PM	#2
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	best for what? These questions are pretty vague. __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

07-25-2003, 12:43 PM	#3
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	HAM tends to be the universal one __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

07-25-2003, 12:45 PM	#5
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	I have registered 2 of those on the list. Hattrick Manager Hattrick Assistant Manager (HAM) I never use Hattrick Manager . . . so in a binary situation, I'd suggest you don't get Hattrick Manager. HAM is a very good program. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

07-25-2003, 12:47 PM	#6
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	I use HAM and HattrickPoli, although I don't know why I keep updating HPoli. Maybe in the event that the programmer came up with something amazing... Oh and I almost forgot, I also use something promoted by somebody we might call The Evil Bill, a tiny program called Microsoft Excel FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-25-2003, 01:39 PM	#8
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	"It's HAM-mer Time!!" __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!! Last edited by MylesKnight : 07-25-2003 at 01:40 PM.

07-25-2003, 12:45 PM	#4
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	the best to use for whatever functions they provide... Im not even sure what they are used for and how to use them....

07-25-2003, 01:26 PM	#7
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	HAM and Excel for me as well Wow... that was a bad rhyme.

07-25-2003, 01:42 PM	#9
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	Can't touch this!

07-25-2003, 01:45 PM	#10
TonyR High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas	Seems like newest version of HAM works very very slowly for me. Don't know what to do about it. __________________ XBox360 GamerTag - Tonyr76 Former HTer

07-25-2003, 03:35 PM	#12
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	mmm... HAM (tho, it costs a couple of bucks) SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

07-25-2003, 05:16 PM	#13
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	Criollo falls into a different category than the others. It's a game viewer where you're able to view a number of games at the same time and bookmark certain teams to bring up their games later. Old School (or just old) people like TP just use browsers that allows them to set those pages to autoupdate (essentially the same thing). The only benefit is the ability to bookmark certain teams. The others basically helps you keep track of your team with regards to things like past performance, ratings and value changes and what nots. The most popular of the bunch is HAM. It's able to retrieve information from Hattrick beyond HRF so you do get a bit more information. From Frogger's thread, I s'pose being able to notice when your serie mates have made a big purchase is probably also useful. I also use HattrickPoli. It can retrieve the HRF so you can still get player informations. But unless something drastic has changed recently, you will have to enter game details yourself (basically, cut-and-paste from your browser) if you want to keep track of past performances.

07-25-2003, 07:24 PM	#14
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	I agree with daedalus, I almost forgot about Criollo. This is a gametime kind of app. It won't help you manage your team, but will make you enjoy the game time better, unless you do like TP. The thread daedalus is referring to is this one: how does it smell to you?, where while using something called "series spy" in HAM, I came to see something fishy done by a leaguemate. "series spy" does just what its name implies, it tells you what the other teams in your league are up to in terms of transfers, injuries, coach changes... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-25-2003, 07:32 PM	#15
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	In addition to what's already been said... I like and use HAM because of it's "automation" that is, you don't have to manually enter things. I used HTPoli and didn't care for it much, my biggest complaint was a lack of documentation and difficulty understanding how to use its features fully. For my team lineups, I use Hattrick Organizer (HO!) and then play with my settings from there, based on ratings and stuff. I tried MyBestTeam for Hattrick, but I didn't care for how it set my lineup. I also use Excel files, though I'm not as adept as others here are with them ::cough, cough:: FrogMan ::cough, cough::. ~terpk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

07-25-2003, 07:35 PM	#16
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	tk, you caught a bad cold there or what? FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-25-2003, 10:28 PM	#17
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	HAM all the way for me. HO is decent too.

07-26-2003, 02:28 PM	#18
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	I just installed HAM and tried to get it to d/l my ratings and stuff... it said Internal error. any help?

07-26-2003, 02:41 PM	#19
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Usually when that happens to me, HT is either down or runs into a glitch. Did you try again? Failing that, shut down HAM and restart it and try again. And failing that, uninstall and then re-install it. I just checked mine, and it seemed to work for me. ~terpk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

07-26-2003, 03:25 PM	#20
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	just uninstalled and tried again... internal server error again.

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