The return of Mr Skippy

Draft Dodger · 07-28-2003, 02:03 PM

nice to see he still know everything, and everyone else knows nothing

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...5&pagenumber=1

(it doesn't really get started til the 2nd page in...but it's fun reading after that)

sachmo71 · 07-28-2003, 02:06 PM

Nothing ever changes.

In related news, that site gives me a headache. Too many long signatures.

Anrhydeddu · 07-28-2003, 02:14 PM

...and too many avatars. Ugh.

Samdari · 07-28-2003, 02:21 PM

Disappointing that I make my yearly visit to the OOTP forums, and HM did not post in the entire thread. At least he was entertaining, Mrs K is just annoying.

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 02:31 PM

Heh. I just realized that I forgot to un-ban mrskippy's account on FOFC.

illinifan999 · 07-28-2003, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Heh. I just realized that I forgot to un-ban mrskippy's account on FOFC.

He missed us so much taht he even brought it up in the thread.

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 02:45 PM

ok...he's reinstated......What's the over/under on how many posts he'll make before getting suspended again?

QuikSand · 07-28-2003, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Heh. I just realized that I forgot to un-ban mrskippy's account on FOFC.

::casting mind-blank curse on SkyDog::

~~~you will not remember~~~

~~~you will not remember~~~

~~~you will not remember~~~

~~~you will not remember~~~

...that ought to do the trick.

Bee · 07-28-2003, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
ok...he's reinstated......What's the over/under on how many posts he'll make before getting suspended again?

2

Edit: And I'll take the under.

QuikSand · 07-28-2003, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
ok...he's reinstated......

Rats. Too late.

Subby · 07-28-2003, 02:47 PM

That's MRS. Kippy to you, bud...

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
::casting mind-blank curse on SkyDog::

~~~you will not remember~~~

~~~you will not remember~~~

~~~you will not remember~~~

~~~you will not remember~~~

...that ought to do the trick.

Once again, I heart QuikSand.

Hey, he was only suspended for two weeks, and it has been like two months.... I can't do him like that.

Anrhydeddu · 07-28-2003, 02:58 PM

SkyDog, you may heart QuikSand but you did not heed his words.

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
SkyDog, you may heart QuikSand but you did not heed his words.

I'm NOT going to intentionally go back on my word. The suspension was not permanent. If he does something worthy of a permanent ban, rest assured that I won't hesitate.

scooper · 07-28-2003, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
ok...he's reinstated......What's the over/under on how many posts he'll make before getting suspended again?

This board ought to be quiet for awhile while everybody runs out to their favorite bait shops.

John Galt · 07-28-2003, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Once again, I heart QuikSand.

Hey, he was only suspended for two weeks, and it has been like two months.... I can't do him like that.

Can't you just ban him again for the idiocy he displayed on the OOTP board?

Anrhydeddu · 07-28-2003, 03:08 PM

SD, just teasing (it's still Monday).

scooper, the bait shops are probably still running low after the HM Event. I wouldn't worry, though, skippy has enough homegrown ones.

Ksyrup · 07-28-2003, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Galt
Can't you just ban him again for the idiocy he displayed on the OOTP board?

There should be some sort of "idiot message board poster registry" like with sexual predators. If they move to another board, they have to register with the forum moderator.

Samdari · 07-28-2003, 03:12 PM

DD, considering the dreaded, ill-advised (but admittedly the proper call ethically) action this thread has precipitated, your thread title can now officially be called ominous.

EDIT: spelling

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samdari
DD, considering the dreaded, ill-advised (but admittedly the proper call ethically) action this thread has precipitated, your thread title can now officially be called ominous.

EDIT: spelling

Yeah! It's Draft Dodger's fault! If it wasn't for him, I'd still be blissfully unaware!

3ric · 07-28-2003, 03:24 PM

OK, so skippy is unbanned. But we don't have to tell him that, do we?

Chief Rum · 07-28-2003, 03:27 PM

"Dola...

BTW from the sound of things ... seems Markus and Co. is ****ing Arlie and Joe by not making sure the domain transfer went smoothly.

Lesson learned ... never trust a foreigner."

Second post from skippy and this is what he throws out? Good Lord. I literally read it and said "Damn!" in sheer incredulity. Some people never change.

CR

Ksyrup · 07-28-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chief Rum
Lesson learned ... never trust a foreigner."

Second post from skippy and this is what he throws out? Good Lord. I literally read it and said "Damn!" in sheer incredulity. Some people never change.

CR

I agree with him. Lou Gramm stole my damn lunch money 3 years ago. And because of that, Mick Jones is dead in my eyes. F*ckin' Foreigners.

sachmo71 · 07-28-2003, 03:51 PM

But Jesus was a foreigner...

Draft Dodger · 07-28-2003, 03:54 PM

and this is what the pinhead said after throwing all that conspiracy crap out there...

"You can't fault either side here. In this case, 400softwarestudios.com's fate rests in the hands of the Internet gods.

If Markus was given correct information when he started the transfer process, it should take around 48 hours. Meaning the site should be up today or tomorrow. Cool!!!"

idiot. pure and simple.

(PS - I like the avatars and the sigs; it adds character).

mrskippy · 07-28-2003, 03:54 PM

Just one quick post and I'll step aside to let everyone chew on this. Feel free to throw eggs if you must, but I ask that you consider my apologies and a plea for peace.

In reference to the "never trust a foreigner" that I made, I should never have said it. It was made because I was unhappy with the split and no thought went into it.

After the fact, I realized this comment was inappropriate and uncalled for, even in the context it was made. However, I couldn't delete it than, for whatever reason, and I can't delete it now, because the thread is closed. I've kindly asked the moderators to remove this post for me on my behalf, as I believe it doesn't belong on the board and doesn't reflect my true feelings.

Markus is a good guy and someone I really respect. Knowing the situation, it is not his fault that the 400 site is down. However, its not Arlie or Joe's fault either. The fault lies entirely with the domain registrar. I was merely upset that people think because the 400 site is down, it has something to do with Joe and Arlie's abilities. And many like to harken back to the TDCB release.

I now believe Markus and his reasoning for the split. And I think it will be for the best, in terms of future game quality. Like Jim, he wants to keep things a small operation and stick to what he loves doing best.

At the same time, Markus had enough class to make sure that Joe and Arlie could keep their corporate identity and have the resources they need to keep it a viable operation.

In the end, I think we'll both be rewarded with products from two fine companies.

As for my previous actions, I apologize if I ever offended anyone. It's my desire to be a positive contributor this this and other related communities. True I do get fired up at times. That's just my personality.

In the past I've said, if any of you ever met me face to face, most of you'd probably like me. Some of you'd hate me. That could be true of any person.

My invite still stands. If you live near Manteca, Calif. or are ever going to be near here. Drop me a note. I'd love to get together to head to a sports bar and watch the big game. And show you who I really am.

sony · 07-28-2003, 03:54 PM

Did this thread suddenly get deleted? I just finished reading page 3 and I clicked on over to page 4 and it isn't working anymore.

Is it still working for anyone else?

JeeberD · 07-28-2003, 03:56 PM

Nope, not working for me either. Think it's been deleted...

sony · 07-28-2003, 03:57 PM

I find it scary to meet a stranger from the internet, another DUDE- at a sports bar ... hell naw

sachmo71 · 07-28-2003, 03:57 PM

Apology accepted. But I can't speak for Jesus.

John Galt · 07-28-2003, 04:03 PM

Wow, that was the best skippy post ever (the above apology). It was coherent, sincere, and didn't reek of blatant troll behavior.

So, what have you done with the real skippy?

Apology accepted.

mrskippy · 07-28-2003, 05:25 PM

sony -- I didn't mean it in the way you think. I'd love to attend one of those FOFC, OOTP, etc. get-togethers one day. Only if they weren't in Atlanta, even though I've wanted to visit there for years.

How about a get-together for FOFCers, OOTPers, 400ers, etc. sometime shortly in California. I know we have some from So Cal. Not sure how many from Nor Cal. Perhaps we get some tips on what to do from the Atlanta crowd and have a party for the West Coasters.

Those looking for the old thread. It was deleted. I only requested my comments be removed, but I think its best the whole thing was removed. It was a pointless thread and needed to go.

Again, I hope to be a positive contributor here, there, and elsewhere from this point on. And if I ever screw up, I think it's only fair that I be permanently removed from the community.

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrskippy
And if I ever screw up, I think it's only fair that I be permanently removed from the community.

If you're a continued positive contributor for a period of time, and you screw up once, rest assured that you won't be permanently banned.

sabotai · 07-28-2003, 05:33 PM

awww...I missed it.

Bad-example · 07-28-2003, 05:52 PM

It was a very nice 2 months

tucker342 · 07-28-2003, 06:01 PM

Damn! I missed the thread!

Axxon · 07-28-2003, 06:45 PM

Welcome back Skippy. I asked the Dog a couple of weeks ago if you were only temporarily banned or perma banned and he said temporary. Ahem, guess it wasn't enough to jog his memory though.

It seems you should definitely tread lightly on your return. The natives appear mighty restless around here. Seems some people really are too touchy for their own goods or at the very least that your unique brand of freaking out isn't well received. It's up to you to decide which one is more likely.

Anyway, welcome back, enjoy your stay and all that.

QuikSand · 07-28-2003, 06:55 PM

That was a very well-considered apology statement.

illinifan999 · 07-28-2003, 07:05 PM

/slowly puts eggs away.

And I was all ready to use em.

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Axxon
Welcome back Skippy. I asked the Dog a couple of weeks ago if you were only temporarily banned or perma banned and he said temporary. Ahem, guess it wasn't enough to jog his memory though.

ok....i just did a search on both of our names, and checked my PM's. I don't remember this. Am I getting old???

The Afoci · 07-28-2003, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
ok....i just did a search on both of our names, and checked my PM's. I don't remember this. Am I getting old???

It was telepathically, I heard it.

Axxon · 07-28-2003, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
ok....i just did a search on both of our names, and checked my PM's. I don't remember this. Am I getting old???

No comment as I don't wish to dwell on my advancing age but it was in a thread not a pm. I have no idea which one now and we were discussing banning guys ( see why it's so futile to try and narrow it down? ) and I asked about him.

It may have been the Blackadar one but I don't know. I'll have a look myself.

Axxon · 07-28-2003, 07:18 PM

Damn am I good at searching.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ghlight=skippy See.

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Axxon
Damn am I good at searching.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ghlight=skippy See.

Ahhhh.....now I know what happened. When you asked me about mrskippy's status 3 weeks ago, I'm quite sure I didn't look it up, I just answered from memory that he wasn't perma-banned, and frankly haven't thought about it since. (Heck, I didn't even remember that you'd asked about him.) When I saw him mention in the .400 thread that he wasn't allowed to post here, I went and looked it up. Lo and behold, I'd forgotten to un-suspend him.

LESSON LEARNED FOR OL' SKYDOG: I need to tell everyone who I suspend to send a reminder e-mail to me when their time in the box is up. I usually do so, but not always.

Axxon · 07-28-2003, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Ahhhh.....now I know what happened. When you asked me about mrskippy's status 3 weeks ago, I'm quite sure I didn't look it up, I just answered from memory that he wasn't perma-banned, and frankly haven't thought about it since. (Heck, I didn't even remember that you'd asked about him.) When I saw him mention in the .400 thread that he wasn't allowed to post here, I went and looked it up. Lo and behold, I'd forgotten to un-suspend him.

LESSON LEARNED FOR OL' SKYDOG: I need to tell everyone who I suspend to send a reminder e-mail to me when their time in the box is up. I usually do so, but not always.

I wasn't implying anything by my tongue in cheek remark Dog. I hope you already knew that. I honestly don't think you'd bother with doing something like that because if you wanted to, you could just ban them straight up.

Still, it was almost a month and a half into a two week banning of a high profile user.....

Kidding.

I'll remember to e-mail.

Seriously though, I'd seen skippy's name pop up under the who's online after that thread and assumed that he wasn't still banned. I didn't know banned people could log in and be seen. I did pull up the profile and it said banned but those are things the user can edit usually so I figured it was him being a smart ass. Had I known otherwise I may have pmed you about it but probably not. Skippy could have done that himself had he cared to post IMHO.

Ben E Lou · 07-28-2003, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Axxon
though, I'd seen skippy's name pop up under the who's online after that thread and assumed that he wasn't still banned. I didn't know banned people could log in and be seen. I did pull up the profile and it said banned but those are things the user can edit usually so I figured it was him being a smart ass. Had I known otherwise I may have pmed you about it but probably not. Skippy could have done that himself had he cared to post IMHO.

Well, mrskippy was "suspended" not "banned." People who are suspended are listed as "In The Penalty Box." (A permanent bans get your user name deleted.) Currently (and this can be changed by admins), suspended users can view the board, but not post or PM.

Axxon · 07-28-2003, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Well, mrskippy was "suspended" not "banned." People who are suspended are listed as "In The Penalty Box." (A permanent bans get your user name deleted.) Currently (and this can be changed by admins), suspended users can view the board, but not post or PM.

Ah.

I always thought that it was a semantic difference between the suspended and the banned. I see that it's more than that.

I think a suspension is worse. It's sad to see that someone who is pressing their nose on the window of their own house but no one can hear them or acknowledge them because they're on the outside looking in. I give my warmest regards to good king Tantalus.

korme · 07-29-2003, 04:34 AM

nevermind, i always seem to respond after someone else has posted what i was going to... er something like that

Samdari · 07-29-2003, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Am I getting old???

Let me think a minute, umm.....

YES

Buccaneer · 08-19-2003, 08:01 PM

History, repeat thyself.

07-28-2003, 02:21 PM	#4
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	Disappointing that I make my yearly visit to the OOTP forums, and HM did not post in the entire thread. At least he was entertaining, Mrs K is just annoying. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

07-28-2003, 02:31 PM	#5
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Heh. I just realized that I forgot to un-ban mrskippy's account on FOFC. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-28-2003, 02:45 PM	#7
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	ok...he's reinstated......What's the over/under on how many posts he'll make before getting suspended again? __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-28-2003, 02:47 PM	#11
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	That's MRS. Kippy to you, bud... __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

07-28-2003, 03:12 PM	#19
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	DD, considering the dreaded, ill-advised (but admittedly the proper call ethically) action this thread has precipitated, your thread title can now officially be called ominous. EDIT: spelling __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price! Last edited by Samdari : 07-28-2003 at 03:14 PM.

07-28-2003, 02:06 PM	#2
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Nothing ever changes. In related news, that site gives me a headache. Too many long signatures.

07-28-2003, 02:14 PM	#3
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	...and too many avatars. Ugh.

07-28-2003, 02:58 PM	#13
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	SkyDog, you may heart QuikSand but you did not heed his words.

07-28-2003, 03:08 PM	#17
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	SD, just teasing (it's still Monday). scooper, the bait shops are probably still running low after the HM Event. I wouldn't worry, though, skippy has enough homegrown ones.

07-28-2003, 03:24 PM	#21
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	OK, so skippy is unbanned. But we don't have to tell him that, do we? __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

07-28-2003, 03:27 PM	#22
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	"Dola... BTW from the sound of things ... seems Markus and Co. is ***ing Arlie and Joe by not making sure the domain transfer went smoothly. Lesson learned ... never trust a foreigner." Second post from skippy and this is what he throws out? Good Lord. I literally read it and said "Damn!" in sheer incredulity. Some people never change. CR __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.*

07-28-2003, 03:51 PM	#24
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	But Jesus was a foreigner...

07-28-2003, 03:54 PM	#25
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	and this is what the pinhead said after throwing all that conspiracy crap out there... "You can't fault either side here. In this case, 400softwarestudios.com's fate rests in the hands of the Internet gods. If Markus was given correct information when he started the transfer process, it should take around 48 hours. Meaning the site should be up today or tomorrow. Cool!!!" idiot. pure and simple. (PS - I like the avatars and the sigs; it adds character). __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-28-2003, 03:54 PM	#26
mrskippy Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: California	Just one quick post and I'll step aside to let everyone chew on this. Feel free to throw eggs if you must, but I ask that you consider my apologies and a plea for peace. In reference to the "never trust a foreigner" that I made, I should never have said it. It was made because I was unhappy with the split and no thought went into it. After the fact, I realized this comment was inappropriate and uncalled for, even in the context it was made. However, I couldn't delete it than, for whatever reason, and I can't delete it now, because the thread is closed. I've kindly asked the moderators to remove this post for me on my behalf, as I believe it doesn't belong on the board and doesn't reflect my true feelings. Markus is a good guy and someone I really respect. Knowing the situation, it is not his fault that the 400 site is down. However, its not Arlie or Joe's fault either. The fault lies entirely with the domain registrar. I was merely upset that people think because the 400 site is down, it has something to do with Joe and Arlie's abilities. And many like to harken back to the TDCB release. I now believe Markus and his reasoning for the split. And I think it will be for the best, in terms of future game quality. Like Jim, he wants to keep things a small operation and stick to what he loves doing best. At the same time, Markus had enough class to make sure that Joe and Arlie could keep their corporate identity and have the resources they need to keep it a viable operation. In the end, I think we'll both be rewarded with products from two fine companies. As for my previous actions, I apologize if I ever offended anyone. It's my desire to be a positive contributor this this and other related communities. True I do get fired up at times. That's just my personality. In the past I've said, if any of you ever met me face to face, most of you'd probably like me. Some of you'd hate me. That could be true of any person. My invite still stands. If you live near Manteca, Calif. or are ever going to be near here. Drop me a note. I'd love to get together to head to a sports bar and watch the big game. And show you who I really am.

07-28-2003, 03:54 PM	#27
sony High School JV Join Date: May 2002 Location: Travis AFB, CA	Did this thread suddenly get deleted? I just finished reading page 3 and I clicked on over to page 4 and it isn't working anymore. Is it still working for anyone else?

07-28-2003, 03:56 PM	#28
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Nope, not working for me either. Think it's been deleted... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-28-2003, 03:57 PM	#29
sony High School JV Join Date: May 2002 Location: Travis AFB, CA	I find it scary to meet a stranger from the internet, another DUDE- at a sports bar ... hell naw

07-28-2003, 04:03 PM	#31
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	Wow, that was the best skippy post ever (the above apology). It was coherent, sincere, and didn't reek of blatant troll behavior. So, what have you done with the real skippy? Apology accepted. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

07-28-2003, 05:25 PM	#32
mrskippy Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: California	sony -- I didn't mean it in the way you think. I'd love to attend one of those FOFC, OOTP, etc. get-togethers one day. Only if they weren't in Atlanta, even though I've wanted to visit there for years. How about a get-together for FOFCers, OOTPers, 400ers, etc. sometime shortly in California. I know we have some from So Cal. Not sure how many from Nor Cal. Perhaps we get some tips on what to do from the Atlanta crowd and have a party for the West Coasters. Those looking for the old thread. It was deleted. I only requested my comments be removed, but I think its best the whole thing was removed. It was a pointless thread and needed to go. Again, I hope to be a positive contributor here, there, and elsewhere from this point on. And if I ever screw up, I think it's only fair that I be permanently removed from the community.

07-28-2003, 05:33 PM	#34
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	awww...I missed it.

07-28-2003, 05:52 PM	#35
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	It was a very nice 2 months __________________ Karaoke Katie drove the crowd wild Every time she'd sing they'd come in for miles Curtain came up, Katie came on Drinking like a lumberjack and singing Delta Dawn

07-28-2003, 06:01 PM	#36
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Damn! I missed the thread!

07-28-2003, 06:45 PM	#37
Axxon Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Welcome back Skippy. I asked the Dog a couple of weeks ago if you were only temporarily banned or perma banned and he said temporary. Ahem, guess it wasn't enough to jog his memory though. It seems you should definitely tread lightly on your return. The natives appear mighty restless around here. Seems some people really are too touchy for their own goods or at the very least that your unique brand of freaking out isn't well received. It's up to you to decide which one is more likely. Anyway, welcome back, enjoy your stay and all that. __________________ There are no houris, alas, in our heaven.

07-28-2003, 06:55 PM	#38
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	That was a very well-considered apology statement.

07-28-2003, 07:05 PM	#39
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	/slowly puts eggs away. And I was all ready to use em. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-28-2003, 07:18 PM	#43
Axxon Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Damn am I good at searching. http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ghlight=skippy See. __________________ There are no houris, alas, in our heaven.

07-29-2003, 04:34 AM	#48
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	nevermind, i always seem to respond after someone else has posted what i was going to... er something like that Last edited by korme : 07-29-2003 at 04:39 AM.

08-19-2003, 08:01 PM	#50
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	History, repeat thyself.

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