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Pro Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Shockey calls Parcells a "homo"
Shockey Rips Parcells
It's just a matter of time before this guy self-destructs. He's the John Rocker of the NFL. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
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He's nothing more than a spoiled brat. In a couple years he'll be a topic of a where are they now video.
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Cinn City
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Yes but he's one heck of a coach. Not so sure about Shockey, though. |
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assmaster
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bloomington, IN
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Why is this news? Is there any guy in America who hasn't called another guy a homo for doing something he perceives as silly, stupid, annoying?
That is not to say that it's right to do so -- in fact, I'll acknowledge that it's terribly politically incorrect to do so, and unnecessarily extends the shelf-life of harmful prejudices -- but it happens. We've all done it. We all still do it sometimes, and the jackass who decided to report it should have been able to predict what the politically correct public reaction would have been and pulled it out of the story. That he left it in leads me to believe that this was a journalist with an agenda -- that agenda being "I want to do a story on what a bigoted, loudmouthed jerk Shockey is". There's no good reason from a journalistic perspective to leave the words The homo in that piece unless you specifically wanted that slant. If Shockey had gone off on a screed about homosexuality, that would have been another thing entirely. In this case, however, he's just using a generally accepted guy shorthand term for a dick, but probably didn't want to use language that strong in an interview. Last edited by Drake : 08-08-2003 at 12:58 PM. |
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College Prospect
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Funny thing is, there wouldn't be this much hype if he HAD called him a dick.
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"All I know is that smart women are hot. Susan Polgar beat me in 24 moves in a simultaneous exhbition. I slept with the scoresheet under my pillow." Off some dude's web site. |
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Manchester, CT
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Wait until John Galt hears about this one!!!
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81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions." |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Drake,
I might have more sympathy for Shockey if this were his first problem. This is a guy who took a lot of crap last year for making what many perceived as anti-gay comments. He should have learned at that point to be more careful. I'll say the same thing now that I said a year ago. . . Jeremy Shockey has every right to make his feelings known. I have every right to think the person saying those comments is an idiot. He's a talented football player (although I don't think he's the revolutionary player many think he is) He keeps making comments like this, he'll keep getting ripped apart for it. TroyF |
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In The Penalty Box
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Brentwood, CA
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Shocking news - football players make disparing re-marks about gays!!!
Why the hell would some gay guy care what Jeremy Shockey thinks - he is a dumb jock. Shockey is a moron anyway - he is a good player - but hasn't accomplished 10% of what Parcells has. all-in-all this is a new millenium story - that is way too much media looking for scandal at every turn. |
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: In Absentia
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And as someone mentioned above, you've got to wonder if this interview was done with the express intent of having this guy say something like this. Not that Shockey isn't a big boy and can't watch what he says, but I wonder what the true motivation for the story was.
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assmaster
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bloomington, IN
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Eh, I'm not saying I have any sympathy for him, Troy. I think Shockey is a bigoted, loudmouthed jerk who deserves whatever grief he gets.
I just wanted to point out that this seems to me to be an example of the media perpetuating a particular presentation of an individual because it will sell copy. What offends me is that this amounts to the journalist in question choosing to insert his spin on Shockey into the article. Shockey's two word comment was a throwaway line. It was a stand-in for a whole other set of male insult signals that have nothing to do with Shockey's anti-homosexual feelings. I'd bet that 95% of the people who read that article understand that, and wouldn't even have noticed it if the media hadn't made it a big deal. The journalist in question should have recognized this would happen. Because he chose to leave it in when the outcome was predictable says to me that he's capitalizing on the expected outcome. He is, in fact, attempting to manipulate it. He's not so much giving us a story as he's giving us spin. I object to that. I think it's unprofessional. |
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College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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So Shockey calls Parcells a "homo". Who really gives a shit?
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assmaster
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bloomington, IN
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Didn't I already say that, doof? ![]() |
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing
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FishFan and Drake - you guys are such homos
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing
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dola does that make me the John Rocker of the FOBL?
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donkey, donkey, walk a little faster |
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Manchester, CT
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I would like to be the John Holmes of the FOBL.
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81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions." |
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing
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I just got this email I need to forward to you.
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assmaster
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bloomington, IN
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Fritz,
You are the John Rocker of the FOBL, only with a cuter butt. |
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing
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homo
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College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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Sorry, dude. Didn't mean to steal your work. |
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Wisconsin
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Any chance of getting Shockey on Queer Eye for Straight Guys? You would think they would absolutely drool at the opportunity to get a tight end on the show....
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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LOL! Do I smell a QOTM? |
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: East Anglia
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I'm a homo, you're a homo, wouldn't ya like to be a homo too?
(just imagine that to the old Dr Pepper jingle) I love the fact now Shockey is completely denying he ever said it and claiming it was someone else who said it. The reporter is sticking to his guns and saying Shockey just went on a rant and ended it with the homo quote. Shockey outta be a man and just stand up say, "Yeah, I called him that. So what?" Weasel.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Back in Houston!
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If this guy isn't in New York, it's not news. If it's some Bears player saying it about a Packer, no one cares.
SI
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Well, I think Shockey being in New York makes it a bigger story, but I think anybody calling Bill Parcells a "homo" regardless of location is a story.
But who other than 8-year-olds calls anybody a "homo?" Someone with the IQ and personality of an 8-year-old is usual the answer. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Even though Parcells is so old, I still think he could kick the shit out of Shockey
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Back in Houston!
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Yeah, he strikes me as a mean old bastard. SI
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High School JV
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Steeler Country
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The guys entitled to his opinion. Just because he is a public figure, it doesn't mean he should be restricted to what he says. There is too much political correct BS anyways, you need a guy like this that speaks his mind.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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He is restricted in what he says because he is a person of non-color.
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High School JV
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Steeler Country
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Sad but true.
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Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05)
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Palo Alto, CA
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He was stupid for what he said, I mean he only caught 2 touchdowns last year and he already thinks hes better then Parcells. As for the homo thing, that doesn't matter, who hasn't called someone a homo before? I think the hype is just a little too much for guys like Shockey and Vick. They haven't done much and they are already hyped up into the next greatest thing.
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Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. |
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: USA
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And then Troy Vincent, who I used to like as a player, displays this nugget, "...I don't think he means anything by it disrespectfully...", as if people routinely call each other a homo and it is all in good fun. If it wasn't meant as a dis, why was it said?
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High School JV
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Steeler Country
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You no longer like him because of that quote? I think the word 'overreaction' best describes all this with Shockey.
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Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Greensboro, NC
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The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'! |
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Satellite of Love
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"He was stupid for what he said, I mean he only caught 2 touchdowns last year and he already thinks hes better then Parcells."
Number of TD receptions by Shockey: 2 Number of TD receptions by Parcells: 0 ![]() |
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Satellite of Love
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Number of Years in the league for Shockey: 1
Number of years in the league for Parcells: 519 Real fair to compare SB trips. ![]() |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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Another two words: Dusty Baker |
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Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Here
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Giants best record w/ Shockey - 10-6
Giants best record w/ Parcells - 14-2 |
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Here
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Yes, and White even said worse things about ethnic groups, but he wasn't even raked over the coals. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)
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Excuses for Shockey:0 |
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Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Here
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oh, i didn't even hear him get bitched at for that in the media. All I remeber is ESPN saying something about it for around a day, him not apologizing for anything, and them dropping it. cool.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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I wasn't a real big fan of Shockey before this. He's like Randy Moss to me. . . he's a great player to watch PLAY, everything else he does disgusts me. Catching a five yard pass and celebrate like he's some sort of living God? Spend more time trying to run over a 49er instead of just scoring the TD in a playoff game? (that might be a good reason as to why he only caught 2 TD's the entire year)
I'll pass. He's a great football player who will only get better. Having said that, I hope Roy Williams flattens him when the Giants play the Cowboys. It'd be a case of one of my favorite, classy players laying out a guy I don't like. It'd be the Cowboys making a good play which would suck, but I think I could find a way to live with it. TroyF |
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Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Greensboro, NC
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College Prospect
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bryson Shitty, NC
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Reasons I posted on this thread: 1
Everything I touch dies. (Screen is replaced by static, then an image breaks through the cacophony.. Its a textual image, featuring a message..) Parcells is gay.. thats why they call him the tuna. He's a trans-gendered football genius. Shockey should be respected for being a lehmans straight shooter.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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There is no possible way I could disagree with this comment more. It goes back to the Dixie Chicks. I don't have to respect them at all. Not even a little bit. What I have to respect is their right to say what they say. (which I do 100%) TroyF |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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SkyDog, I agree with you but I compare to Mr. White's comments to Rocker's and look who got (still) the worse treatment. In my mind, calling someone a homo is not being homophobic (fear of homosexuals) the media sticks on things when they have no idea what they are talking about. Maybe he should have used faggoty instead.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Kerry Collins |
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: USA
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You think you're playing the "Jump to conclusions" game, or something? I never said that had anything to do with it. I never liked him since he left the Dolphins. It has nothing to do with him personally, it's just a football thing. |
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