Godly Youth Pull..to seel or play?

Blade6119 · 08-11-2003, 01:03 AM

Well...he is immediatly the best oufield player on my team(i train gk and have a formidible clown)...he is also probobly worth a lot on the markey since he is so well rounded...what should i do?

Jesús Mújica (15338717)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 433 000 US$
Wage: 2 840 US$/week
Owner: Blade Bombers
Warnings: 0

Stamina: passable Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: weak
Scoring: excellent Set Pieces: disastrous

He could be a star at forward, wing, and maybe even mid...i dont have any players pulling over 2.5 stars...i run a 3-5-2 with my two forwrds both pulling 2.5s...2 of my three mids pulling 2.5s and one 2...my wings pull a 2.5 and a 2, but the two is an excellent winger with no secondaries...my defense is my best part, but i wonder if it would be better to sell him and buy a player or two...change my formation to a 3-4-3(altough i have my 2 biggest maches the next two weeks ad cant afford the exp drop...), or play him...not sure where he would be best...

If i sell, how much should i start him for, and if i play, where and in what formation?

Desnudo · 08-11-2003, 01:09 AM

Well that's a nice conundrum. If he was 17 that could be the pull of the year. Since he's 19 you won't get as much, but someone buying him will likely focus on the scoring/passing combo. I'd play him a match at forward and see what kind of rating he gets before setting a price.

Blade6119 · 08-11-2003, 01:15 AM

excuse the title...i cant spell

-Panther · 08-11-2003, 01:18 AM

I'd say you can fairly easily get 750k for him as a striker. I sold a 19 excellent scoring inad passing/defending/SP for 600k.

I'd disregard his winger, why waste his best stats on the least important position (atleast till new tactics kick in).

as for your 2 star excellent winger, in bad form or something? I've got a solid winger w/ no secondaries that get's 2.5* in passable form ( I think inad aswell ) play him offensive if you're not.

Masked · 08-11-2003, 01:19 AM

I hate you!

Exc scoring, pass passing player alone will go for 500-600+, and that is for someone who is to old to train. If you put him on the market with a minimum of 800K, you would probably get it, and if not you have a forward that will last you for at least 3-4 seasons.

If you are going to keep him play him at forward, otherwise you should sell him and buy a winger with the same skills for 200K or less.

-Panther · 08-11-2003, 01:19 AM

I'd start him around 650-700 easily

NAIWF · 08-11-2003, 01:23 AM

I think you'd be better off keeping him because he's got at least one useless skill.

If you play him at winger his scoring is meaningless and vice versa if you play him at forward. The inad PM also doesn't help and neither would training it to passable because you'd now have two useless skills. So I doubt PM trainers would be interested, thus leaving you with scoring or winger trainers. I think you could get a few hundred K, but his being 19 would hurt his sale value since a 17 yo solid would surpass him talent wise by the end of next season.

So I agree with Desnudo, play him at forward and keep him if he makes a significant difference to your ratings.

Doug5984 · 08-11-2003, 01:25 AM

I would start the bidding around $650 and sell him, you could use the extra money and buy a forward with similar skills for cheaper and have less on his wages since they are so high with all the extra skills.

but damn that is a great pull!

Blade6119 · 08-11-2003, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by -Panther
as for your 2 star excellent winger, in bad form or something? I've got a solid winger w/ no secondaries that get's 2.5* in passable form ( I think inad aswell ) play him offensive if you're not.

No...hes passable i think...i have him playing normal right now...ere are his stats:

Elmer Washington (13525631)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities.

Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 76 000 US$
Wage: 820 US$/week
Owner: Blade Bombers
Warnings: 0

Stamina: passable Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: excellent Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Here is the other winger who is offensive and putting up 2.5:

Peter Martinsson (8312788)
20 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is temperamental and honest.
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities.

Speciality: Head

Nationality: Sverige
Assessed value: 159 000 US$
Wage: 1 584 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Blade Bombers
Warnings: 0

Stamina: excellent Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: weak

Any reason why elmer is not ptting up?

larrymcg421 · 08-11-2003, 01:44 AM

Play him offensively.

I have a passable winger, one with only weak, poor, and weak secondaries and he puts up 2.5 *'s in passable form. Maybe his technical specialty hurt. What was the weather?

Blade6119 · 08-11-2003, 01:45 AM

i play martinsson offensive and elmer normal since he is on my weaker side normally...

-Panther · 08-11-2003, 01:52 AM

Nathaniel Conklin (B Team WB might sell, my best YP kinda attached :-)
96 000 US$, 18 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: solid Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate

Peter Taylor (starting winger)
96 000 US$, 18 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: disastrous

Anthony Torres (B Team winger)
86 000 US$, 20 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: solid Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

all 3 when played offensively put up 2.5* in inad-passable form as a winger. Conklin is 2* defensive WB, haven't tried normal or offensive yet. experimenting with 2 IM, 2 Winger 3-4-3 in friendly this week.

if a winger doesn't have secondaries, play him offensive since it boost his winger skill.

Blade6119 · 08-11-2003, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by larrymcg421
Play him offensively.

I have a passable winger, one with only weak, poor, and weak secondaries and he puts up 2.5 *'s in passable form. Maybe his technical specialty hurt. What was the weather?

He has put up two in every match he has played...

-Panther · 08-11-2003, 01:55 AM

and if those fail, I've got my IM/Winger for 'must get higher MF' games:

Kurtmartin Heinrichs
65 000 US$, 26 years, solid form
Has weak experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: weak
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

he puts up 3* as an offensive winger, 2.5* as IM (3 in exc form)
haven't tried TM winger yet since I only play with 1 winger and haven't had a 'go all out and sacrifice attack for midfield' kind of match yet...

TargetPractice6 · 08-11-2003, 02:29 AM

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why waste his best stats on the least important position

I would say any defense position is the least important (excluding keeper). But that's just me...

Easy Mac · 08-11-2003, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by TargetPractice6
I would say any defense position is the least important (excluding keeper). But that's just me...

Yeah, normally i'd say you're an idiot, but I gave up 5 goals last game with an all outstanding back line, and the other teams Offense had nothing higher than exc.

edit that, I lost to a team w/ solid/pass/pass attack... bullshit.

vex · 08-11-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Yeah, normally i'd say you're an idiot, but I gave up 5 goals last game with an all outstanding back line, and the other teams Offense had nothing higher than exc.

edit that, I lost to a team w/ solid/pass/pass attack... bullshit.

I know how you feel. My all-solid defense lost to a Inad/weak/Inad attack 1-3.

Easy Mac · 08-11-2003, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by vexroid
I know how you feel. My all-solid defense lost to a Inad/weak/Inad attack 1-3.

Yeah, and nevermind that my pass/inad/pass attack couldn't score on his exc/sol/exc defense.

Lets see, When you compare my defense to his offense, I was +11 NSI. When you compare his D to my O, he was +6. Shouldn't I have scored easier against his D than he did against mine? And his midfield only beat me by 2 levels, so he was only +1 NSI.

08-11-2003, 01:15 AM	#3
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	excuse the title...i cant spell __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-11-2003, 01:18 AM	#4
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	I'd say you can fairly easily get 750k for him as a striker. I sold a 19 excellent scoring inad passing/defending/SP for 600k. I'd disregard his winger, why waste his best stats on the least important position (atleast till new tactics kick in). as for your 2 star excellent winger, in bad form or something? I've got a solid winger w/ no secondaries that get's 2.5* in passable form ( I think inad aswell ) play him offensive if you're not. __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

08-11-2003, 01:19 AM	#6
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	I'd start him around 650-700 easily __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

08-11-2003, 01:23 AM	#7
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	I think you'd be better off keeping him because he's got at least one useless skill. If you play him at winger his scoring is meaningless and vice versa if you play him at forward. The inad PM also doesn't help and neither would training it to passable because you'd now have two useless skills. So I doubt PM trainers would be interested, thus leaving you with scoring or winger trainers. I think you could get a few hundred K, but his being 19 would hurt his sale value since a 17 yo solid would surpass him talent wise by the end of next season. So I agree with Desnudo, play him at forward and keep him if he makes a significant difference to your ratings. Last edited by NAIWF : 08-11-2003 at 01:25 AM.

08-11-2003, 01:44 AM	#10
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Play him offensively. I have a passable winger, one with only weak, poor, and weak secondaries and he puts up 2.5 's in passable form. Maybe his technical specialty hurt. What was the weather? Last edited by larrymcg421 : 08-11-2003 at 01:46 AM.*

08-11-2003, 01:09 AM	#2
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Well that's a nice conundrum. If he was 17 that could be the pull of the year. Since he's 19 you won't get as much, but someone buying him will likely focus on the scoring/passing combo. I'd play him a match at forward and see what kind of rating he gets before setting a price.

08-11-2003, 01:19 AM	#5
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	I hate you! Exc scoring, pass passing player alone will go for 500-600+, and that is for someone who is to old to train. If you put him on the market with a minimum of 800K, you would probably get it, and if not you have a forward that will last you for at least 3-4 seasons. If you are going to keep him play him at forward, otherwise you should sell him and buy a winger with the same skills for 200K or less.

08-11-2003, 01:25 AM	#8
Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	I would start the bidding around $650 and sell him, you could use the extra money and buy a forward with similar skills for cheaper and have less on his wages since they are so high with all the extra skills. but damn that is a great pull!

08-11-2003, 01:45 AM	#11
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	i play martinsson offensive and elmer normal since he is on my weaker side normally... __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-11-2003, 01:52 AM	#12
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	Nathaniel Conklin (B Team WB might sell, my best YP kinda attached :-) 96 000 US$, 18 years, passable form Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous Playmaking: poor Passing: weak Winger: solid Defending: inadequate Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate Peter Taylor (starting winger) 96 000 US$, 18 years, inadequate form Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous Playmaking: poor Passing: passable Winger: solid Defending: weak Scoring: poor Set Pieces: disastrous Anthony Torres (B Team winger) 86 000 US$, 20 years, passable form Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched Winger: solid Defending: poor Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor all 3 when played offensively put up 2.5* in inad-passable form as a winger. Conklin is 2* defensive WB, haven't tried normal or offensive yet. experimenting with 2 IM, 2 Winger 3-4-3 in friendly this week. if a winger doesn't have secondaries, play him offensive since it boost his winger skill. __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

08-11-2003, 01:55 AM	#14
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	and if those fail, I've got my IM/Winger for 'must get higher MF' games: Kurtmartin Heinrichs 65 000 US$, 26 years, solid form Has weak experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Head] Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched Playmaking: passable Passing: weak Winger: passable Defending: poor Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched he puts up 3* as an offensive winger, 2.5* as IM (3 in exc form) haven't tried TM winger yet since I only play with 1 winger and haven't had a 'go all out and sacrifice attack for midfield' kind of match yet... __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

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